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re Oh, Oracle, you jokester you | 273 comments | Create New Account
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No joke
Authored by: mattflaschen on Saturday, June 16 2012 @ 02:49 PM EDT
First, that screen has been there a long time (before Android IIRC) Neither
Goole nor Sun/Oracle has ever claimed Android was Java-certified. However,
there are billions of certified Java ME (the edition for devices) phones.

Oracle has no legal case, but that statement is completely accurate.

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re Oh, Oracle, you jokester you
Authored by: The Cornishman on Saturday, June 16 2012 @ 02:55 PM EDT

Well, to be fair, my now-ancient Motorola Razr 2 did run Java, and probably would again, if I were to put a battery in it.

I don't know whether the statement you quote is truly meant to include Android devices, but if it did that would be totally misleading. Google has never described Android/Dalvik as "Java"®, and as every fule kno, is not permitted to do so.

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Oh, Oracle, you jokester you
Authored by: hAckz0r on Saturday, June 16 2012 @ 05:12 PM EDT
IBM has a jvm that I was using on several Treo handsets over many years. It did not replace the OS or anything close to that, but you could write web enabled apps for it. I rarely used it because there was no "market" to share through and I didn't have the time or need to write any personal applications that no one else might use. Had there been an open way to share apps I might have done it.

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Oh, Oracle, you jokester you
Authored by: DannyB on Monday, June 18 2012 @ 10:21 AM EDT
It is no joke.

Back in 2000, regular ol' plain jane phones all had Java on them.

To those of us who actually wrote any apps for those phones back then, it was
fairly obvious that several things were needed. A single app store instead of
separate ones on every mobile carrier. A unified platform across all brands of
phones. There were maddening differences like how to access sound, etc.

So in some ways, when the iPhone came on the scene, some of what it did had
already been obvious to many. Some things, like using a touch screen as the
primary input, were novel. Touch screens had existed, but making it a primary
input was an interesting idea.

But it took Android to give us a single, powerful, but most importantly unified
OS across brands. And better than the single app store was that multiple app
stores could exist, but across mobile carriers. (eg, Google Play store and
Amazon App store, and potentially anyone else who wants to build an app store.)


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