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Errata
Authored by: NigelWhitley on Friday, June 15 2012 @ 11:43 AM EDT
Please post any errors under this thread. This is for errors in
spelling/grammar/links, not for disagreements on content or presentation (Not
that there should be any :-) ).

Kindly include the correction in the title where posssible e.g.
korect-->correct

Thank you.
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I can't wait...
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, June 15 2012 @ 11:44 AM EDT
It is a bit like one of those old horror films where the hero keeps killing the
monster, only for it to be waiting when he opens th closet door.

Well, perhaps Cravath can finally put a stake through SCO's heart.

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Off-topic
Authored by: NigelWhitley on Friday, June 15 2012 @ 11:49 AM EDT
Please place off-topic comments under here.

Only off-topic comments are on-topic here and vice versa.

Thank you.
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Newspicks
Authored by: NigelWhitley on Friday, June 15 2012 @ 11:55 AM EDT
Please include comments on and suggestion for articles listed in the Newspicks
section under this thread. Kindly identify the article when posting a new
sub-thread and include a link to it so it can be referenced after the Newspicks
item has scrolled down the dimming passage of memory.

For clickable links choose a Post Mode of "HTLM Formatted" and follow
the advice below it.

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Comes Stuff Here
Authored by: SilverWave on Friday, June 15 2012 @ 11:59 AM EDT
:-)

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Corrections (as opposed to Errata)
Authored by: nsomos on Friday, June 15 2012 @ 12:05 PM EDT
The corrections thread must have 'corrections' in the title
properly spelled. You can have as much fun in the body of
the post starting the corrections thread as you like, but
it is important that the title of the thread starter have
'corrections' properly spelled in it.

Thanks

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SCO Files a Request to Submit for Decision in IBM Case ~pj
Authored by: Steve Martin on Friday, June 15 2012 @ 12:21 PM EDT

On November 4, 2011, SCO filed its Motion to Reopen the Case (Docket No. 1095) in order to proceed with its remaining unfair competition and tortious interference claims. Those claims, which the Chapter 11 Trustee overseeing SCO’s bankruptcy estate deems meritorious, are the only remaining assets of the estate.

So it's official; TSG Group acknowledges in open court that their only viable product is litigation.

Someone please remind me why they still enjoy Chapter 11 protection from their creditors.

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How nice of SCOG
Authored by: nsomos on Friday, June 15 2012 @ 12:34 PM EDT
SCOG writes ...
"IBM argued for an order “providing that this case shall be reopened within
5 days of the filing of a notice (by any party) that the stay of IBM’s
counterclaims has been lifted.” (Id. at 14 (emphasis added).) SCO hereby
provides such notice."

Now when there is less than nothing left for IBM to get with a win on
counterclaims, SCOG now has no objection to these proceeding.
I hope there is still a chance that corporate veils can be lifted
and maybe even a chance of going directly after McBride and/or Yarro.

I realize that this is probably too much to hope for.

Still ... a guy can dream, can't he?

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That was below the belt
Authored by: mexaly on Friday, June 15 2012 @ 12:47 PM EDT
How dare you compare SCO to pornography? Pornography has a bad enough
reputation as it is.

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Salt Lake Tribune article slanted?
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, June 15 2012 @ 12:53 PM EDT
slanted article in the Salt Lake Tribune, where SCO mysteriously is said to be the owner of UNIX once again, just like in their legal fantasy league of long ago.
I read the article that the link took me to, and it says that SCO was:
a Canopy company that held the rights to the Unix computer operating system.
That statement was in the past tense, and it is correct as far as I can tell. They did own some rights to UNIX. They didn't own UNIX, but the article doesn't say that. Later in the article it says:
SCO eventually ended up in bankruptcy court, where it still remains today. Unix was sold to another company.
This again is not incorrect. I saw nowhere in the article that makes any claims that SCO owns UNIX. I also see no evidence of anything in the article that indicated a favorable slant toward SCO or Yarro. In fact, at one point it says:
SCO was accused of launching an attack on the open-source community that backed Linux and Yarro was roundly vilified.
Sounds like fairly unbiased reporting to me. If there was some statement in that article where it said "SCO owns UNIX" then I must have missed it.

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Ralph and Daryl could be brothers
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, June 15 2012 @ 01:29 PM EDT

From the image in the article, they could potentially pass as brothers. Might explain why they got along so well.

RAS

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How is SCO still alive?
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, June 15 2012 @ 02:03 PM EDT
The last MOR SCO (sorry, TSG) filed shows that, at the end of February, they had
about 1 month's cash and no revenue. The bank account should have run dry more
than 2 months ago. How are they still going?

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SCO Files a Request to Submit for Decision in IBM Case ~pj
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, June 15 2012 @ 03:31 PM EDT
Just for fun, I wonder what's going through the mind of Judge Cahn. I mean who in their right mind would think anyone has anything to gain from reopening the suit?

Is he bored? Is retirement getting to him and he wants to relive the "good old days".

Did he wake-up one day and think, "What a beautiful-sunny/awful-rainy day, I think I'll start-up the old IBM lawsuit."

Did he have an fight with his wife and he wants to take out his bad temper on someone?

I mean he can't possibly think he can win anything and he can't possibly believe IBM would settle after all this time. If he does, that must qualify as evidence of senility or alzheimer's.

Or what went through the mind of Boies when he received Cahn's call to reopen the IBM suit... ok, that's probably unprintable, but did he at least try to dissuade Cahn?

Did he at least tell Cahn he was trying to beat a dead horse? A moldy, rotten, decaying, long dead horse that should have been buried long ago?

Boies must know there's nothing to gain. Worse, every minute he spends on the case costs him money. Ok, that's just karma.

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My own personal opinion
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, June 15 2012 @ 04:31 PM EDT
I think that the Federal Court in Salt Lake is essentially stalling the
bankruptcy court in Delaware. The Federal Court is saying, "You can't wait
forever. You have to convert SCO to Chapter 7 and end this farce."

So far, the bankruptcy court has been holding on, saying, "But they could
make a viable business of it, if they could just get the case re-opened!"

But the Federal Court, which actually knows what a turkey SCO's case is, doesn't
want to waste their time with it (reasonably enough). They can also (if they
bother to do even the slightest research) see what SCO's financial situation is.
In fact, if SCO filed a MOR in February that indicated that they had one
month's money left, and it's now June... why aren't they dead right now? And,
the Federal Court might think, why bother to re-open a case where one party
isn't going to live long enough to see the finish?

Note well: This is just my personal opinion. I clearly don't speak for the
Federal Court.

MSS2

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