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I get the middleware angle now
Authored by: cjk fossman on Friday, June 15 2012 @ 12:21 AM EDT

So simple, really

we had technology built in so that you could control and manage all of your documents. As a matter of fact, it was something that was even -- it was a little language that published thousands of access points into WordPerfect. So, for example, you could take something from a database and actually insert that into your document. You could use document management services. You could do all of these things you could build on top of WordPerfect, and actually people live there. So you could customize it, like I said, build custom applications. All of that was built on top of WordPerfect and the API, you know, language of choice, actually...

There it is.

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Policy maker.
Authored by: Ian Al on Friday, June 15 2012 @ 07:41 AM EDT
Gary Lawrence Gibb was a policy maker when he moved to director of the PerfectOffice product. However, before that he is qualified to demonstrate company policy because, as director of the engines group, he was implementing the company policy of making WP middleware on a range of windowing operating systems including NEXT.

He points out that it was company policy to generate cross-platform printer drivers that were better than those on the underlying OS which is one of the attractions of WP as middleware.

I don't think it is necessary to produce a company policy paper stating multiplatform middleware as an aim since his testimony demonstrates that the company was directing development to actually deliver this.

His testimony is from first hand knowledge of the middleware aspects of the product and the damage to the product by Microsoft and the Windows API.

Judge Motz appears to be getting the importance of middleware.
THE COURT: What I am not clear on, is are these ISCs or are they companies who were using WordPerfect as a world to live in?
I skimmed the rest, but I don't see much more evidence that he is getting it. I am reassured that Novell is now making all the middleware and company policy points. I hope the judge proves open enough to truly grasp the issues.

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So-so.....
Authored by: tiger99 on Friday, June 15 2012 @ 07:58 AM EDT
It seems that this witness and the previous one like to prefix their answers with "so", which in many cases is gramatically or contextually incorrect.

Just curious. Is this part of a local dialect in Utah? I don't recall it occurring in any of the other Utah cases.

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What exactly is an Office Suite?
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, June 15 2012 @ 09:49 AM EDT
In the 1980s it seems that "office suite" could mean a collection of software bundled together, quite legitimately. Integration between the individual parts seems to have been minimal.

For example, Mini Office II was released in 1986 for the BBC Micro and then a few other contemporary machines, then later upgraded in 1989 for the Anstrad PCW. It was, as far as I can remember from actually using it back then, just a collection of software written by the same company and bundled on the same disk (or ROM) - which itself was considered a convenience in the days before ubiquitous hard disks. I don't think you could embed a spreadsheet into a word processing document.

It appears that ClarisWorks (released 1991) was among the first true "integrated" suites, in that all different types of document (words, graphics, numbers) were handled in the same program and could be mixed fairly freely. I loved using it in the late 90s, and even used it to give a prize-winning presentation at university (in 2001), beating a dozen other contestants who all used PowerPoint (or OHP). It was eventually replaced for MacOS X by iWork, which is not quite the same thing although it has it's good points.

So I'm interested to learn what sort of integration PerfectOffice had (or wanted to have) back then. Does anyone know?

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