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What ESR thinks and why it matters
Authored by: FreeChief on Monday, June 11 2012 @ 11:34 AM EDT
He writes under the headline "sex, software, and firearms". He says Richard Stallman offends some people. Some people are offended by putting sex and firearms together. So what? Why did I bother to hit the reply button? There's nothing worth saying about this. It doesn't matter what he thinks.

 — Programmer in Chief

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ESR states: Why I think RMS is a fanatic, and why that matters.
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, June 11 2012 @ 12:05 PM EDT
I wouldn't agree that RMS has forgotten his aim. He just has the awkward
position of having been in the position to lead something massive, and not being
a very good celebrity (just right).

Isn't ESR the guy who coined "Open Source"?

Haven't RMS and him been at loggerheads ever since Netscape turned into
Mozzila?

Yes, RMS is generally right about what's important. Yes, ESR is better at
getting PHBs to accept that what's right is actually good for them. Yes, RMS
may not be the easiest person to talk to. Yes, guns are important. No, we
aren't going to see improvement in anything really important in our lifetime.
Can't we all just get along?

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Typical reaction to genius
Authored by: jbb on Monday, June 11 2012 @ 12:19 PM EDT
ESR has a much smaller vision of the world than RMS. Unfortunately ESR has no comprehension of this limitation so he assumes any mismatch between his own world-view and that of RMS means RMS is wrong.

---
Our job is to remind ourselves that there are more contexts
than the one we’re in now — the one that we think is reality.
-- Alan Kay

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ESR states: Why I think RMS is a fanatic, and why that matters.
Authored by: tiger99 on Monday, June 11 2012 @ 01:08 PM EDT
The world needs a proportion of highly intelligent people to be fanatics. Without such uncompromising people, the oppressive and ultimately destructive influence of mindless corporations like M$ would do a lot more harm than it does, amongst other things.

Fanatics, or zealots, do not necessarily have all the social skills of average people, but more than make up for that by what they achieve for society as a whole.

I don't agree with everything RMS says and does, but I do totally respect his uncompromising stand on software freedom, which almost directly benefits billions of people. How many everyday things, used worldwide. only work the way they do, i.e. being fully interoperable, because the GPL kept the source from being butchered and manipulated into the core of some fiendishly non-standard proprietary thing? The "OSS" licenses, BSD etc, do not protect the originators of the code, or the public at large, from exploitation by mindless mega-corporations. The GPL does.

It happens to need fanatics of a slightly different sort to enforce it too. I know very little about the Busybox developers, for instance, but they also, by taking a firm stand against copyright violation, have also benefitted the entire world.

If we did not have people fanaticaly defending freedom, where would we be? Serfs of M$, or even worse, SCO?

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Winston Churchill's definition of a fanatic
Authored by: betajet on Monday, June 11 2012 @ 02:01 PM EDT
Winston Churchill once defined a fanatic as "someone who cannot change his mind, and cannot change the subject". I think RMS matches this definition pretty well. I also think RMS is usually right, and I'm very grateful for what he's done.

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ESR states: Why I think RMS is a fanatic, and why that matters.
Authored by: MadTom1999 on Tuesday, June 12 2012 @ 07:56 AM EDT
First you realise RMS is lunatic
Then you realise he's a fanatic
Then you laugh
And realise he was right all along

I generally find it is easier to believe RMS rather than spend 10 years trying
to prove him wrong and failing and then adopting his POV. I am very very glad he
is a fanatic.

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  • +1 - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, June 13 2012 @ 01:28 PM EDT
ESR states: Why I think RMS is a fanatic, and why that matters.
Authored by: old joe on Sunday, June 17 2012 @ 06:26 AM EDT
RMS is unreasonable.

Just remember that only unreasonable people have ever changed the world.

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