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| Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, June 11 2012 @ 11:40 AM EDT |
The problem with the attempts to patent software (math) running "on a
general purpose computer" is that that patent trolls filing the patents
didn't actually invent any of the hardware; nor did they invent the combination
of the hardware and the math; and furthermore, the hardware was specifically
designed to run *all possible* mathematical algorithms (all software).
Software patents are like charging people for patent violations every time they
write a sentence on paper. "Oh, oh, I patented the process of writing that
particular sentence on paper." Sorry, no. The paper and ink were DESIGNED
to write ALL POSSIBLE sentences, and the sentences themselves are abstract and
not patentable.
The sentences are, of course, copyrightable.[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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| Authored by: jonathon on Monday, June 11 2012 @ 03:17 PM EDT |
>It's aimed at washing and not to do anything else, and the software is aimed
at making that possible.
Shabbat Mode. ( Non-Jews might find https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbath_mode
a useful explanation.)
Most high end kitchen and laundry appliances offer a "Shabbat Mode".
This mode is specifically created to _prevent_ the operation of the appliance on
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| Authored by: Stefan Wagner on Monday, June 11 2012 @ 05:54 PM EDT |
What if the washing maschine wasn't a washing, but a jingle playing machine?
Which plays a jingle, if you solve a Tic-Tac-Toe-game, sitting on a ROM-Chip?
Sitting on a removable flash chip, being replaced with a Sudoku game?
Being a washing mashine, playing a jingle after finishing the job? Update the
software, sitting on a removable flash-chip, to show a different washing
algorithm, depending on water quality, which is now detected by a new sensor,
which can be hotplugged to a i²c-Bus or something?
Or the software allows to input your water hardness via touch screen?
I don't see what makes the clear line here. A washing maschine with just one
washing program? The program is soldiered on a chip?
Every program can be created in hardware - I don't understand why this would
make a difference.
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| Authored by: mjscud on Tuesday, June 12 2012 @ 01:17 AM EDT |
The clear line is, I think, Turing equivalence.
Software Algorithms can be implemented on any universal Turing machine. Such
algorithms can themselves be data to other algorithms, which is how a universal
Turing machine can simulate any computer. It is also why any algorithm can be
implemented entirely in hardware.
Moreover, they can be an input to a recursively enumerable function. They are
Mathematics in that they are an object of Mathematical discourse.
This is a very bright and clear and useful subject matter distinction which
Turing's universal machine (or a general purpose computer, or Godel enumeration,
or other ways of describing the same concept to within isomorphism) supplies.
If what is described in isomorphic to a program for a Turing machine, it is
software, it is math, and it should not be patentable.
If what is claimed happens to make use of an algorithm, but is otherwise
patentable, than fine. But the algorithm cannot be the unique part. And your
ideas on making the patent system better are quite desirable as to that
question.
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