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Physical vs thought
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, June 08 2012 @ 05:12 PM EDT

We both agree that the laser itself qualified for a patent. It clearly falls into that category of invention for most definitions of the word.

Would you agree that the scientific knowledge that was used to build the laser should be patented?

To be clear: not the laser itself - but the science. The knowledge of how light photons works. The knowledge of how one could light passes through a crystal. Would you agree that such knowledge - the knowledge of gravity from observing an apple fall - should be patentable? I am of the opinion it should not... but what's your opinion on that aspect?

But there's a huge gap between quantum theory and reducing it to practice in the form of an optically-pumped laser.
Are you suggesting Quantum theory should be patentable? Not an invention that might come from quantum theory - like warp engines - but the knowledge and understanding of quantum theory itself!
inventors deserve SOME protection for their inventions
And therein lies part of the problem. The definition of the term "invention". I can only speak for myself on this sentiment:
    Discoveries in the form of understanding the laws of nature should never be considered inventions!
To clarify the other side of that coin:
    A discovery in the form of a physical item that ends up doing something you didn't expect - you accidently create the lightbulb - can qualify as an invention.
The Lotus 123 interface was a significant discovery, bringing the ability to operate a spreadsheet to almost everyone with a computer.
I really can't say if I agree or disagree with regards whether that was significant. But I can say:
    Whether significant or not, it's no different the applying "1+1=" into a calculator and getting an answer of "2".
Therefore I would not agree that it qualified for patent protection.
how should the legal encouragement work?
How about by decreasing the number of patents granted? By reigning in the madness that anything and everything no matter how small, simple or obvious is granted patent protection.
And, I suppose, where do I get the resources, which will be *much* less than the $50M expended on OraGoogle
I guess that depends on which resources you are talking about. Are you refering to:
    The resources - mostly in time - to develop your operating system on a single purchase of hardware so you can prove it can be done!
or
    The resources - mostly in money - to deal with the lawsuits that one needs to be concerned about in the current system that does not actually promote the progress of science!

RAS

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I forgot: you didn't answer my question
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, June 08 2012 @ 05:14 PM EDT

So... the question you didn't answer:

    When has a cost of non-trivial resources been a requirement to get a patent?

RAS

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Lotus 1-2-3 was a copy
Authored by: Wol on Friday, June 08 2012 @ 05:46 PM EDT
Ho much of it was a copy don't know, the interface may or may not have been.

But 1-2-3 was a latecomer to the world of spreadsheets. Like so many programs it
only became dominant because it got a foothold on the fledgling PC, and managed
to hang on to it.

1-2-3 was an also-ran in the days of CP/M - that is if it was even around then.

Cheers,
Wol

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