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Ubuntu - is it paying the M$ tax as well? | 118 comments | Create New Account
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Consider open source hardware as a solution
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, June 06 2012 @ 03:07 PM EDT
> If UEFI motherboards are set such that it can not be set to ...

x86 mobos from OEMs will be able to disable the 'secure boot'. Otherwise they
would not be able to boot Windows 7 or XP and that is what corporates want to
use when they replace their machines.

ARM machines are different in that they will mostly be 'embedded' in that they
will be like iPads and locked. If few buy WinRT ARM devices then the makers will
also have a line of Android or Linux devices.

There may be a reaction against 'secure boot' by consumers and retailers
because, without switching it off, it will stop booting of rescue disks, and
older Windows. The retailers will get many returns and service calls.

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$99 dollar tax
Authored by: Wol on Wednesday, June 06 2012 @ 05:51 PM EDT
aiui (read mfg's very good writings on it, you'll find them on lwn) the $99 buys
you a Verisign key that enables you to upload your binary to an MS server for
signing.

So you buy a key, and then you can sign what you like.

That seems to me to defeat the purpose of UEFI, in that if I create and sign
malware, I've just compromised MS's key! They can't be that stupid, can they?

Cheers,
Wol

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Ubuntu - is it paying the M$ tax as well?
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, June 06 2012 @ 07:39 PM EDT
Does anyone know where ubuntu stands on this UEFI issue? Is it paying M$
already?
Or is it not so "cutting edge" right now to be able to run on this new
hardware?

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It's a once off, *not* per install
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, June 06 2012 @ 11:14 PM EDT
Assuming nothing "happens" to the validity of their key anyway.

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What about people who buy $300-$400 computers and wipe out Windows.
Authored by: Kilz on Thursday, June 07 2012 @ 01:43 AM EDT
Some people will buy a cheap computer Like this one for $429 and wipe out Windows and put linux on it. Tiger direct and other sites like it also have computers in the $300-$350 range that have good enough spec's that people like my mom who just surf, write emails, or print out pictures they took with their camera. UEFI will stop this, and pre installed Linux is usually more expensive.

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