decoration decoration
Stories

GROKLAW
When you want to know more...
decoration
For layout only
Home
Archives
Site Map
Search
About Groklaw
Awards
Legal Research
Timelines
ApplevSamsung
ApplevSamsung p.2
ArchiveExplorer
Autozone
Bilski
Cases
Cast: Lawyers
Comes v. MS
Contracts/Documents
Courts
DRM
Gordon v MS
GPL
Grokdoc
HTML How To
IPI v RH
IV v. Google
Legal Docs
Lodsys
MS Litigations
MSvB&N
News Picks
Novell v. MS
Novell-MS Deal
ODF/OOXML
OOXML Appeals
OraclevGoogle
Patents
ProjectMonterey
Psystar
Quote Database
Red Hat v SCO
Salus Book
SCEA v Hotz
SCO Appeals
SCO Bankruptcy
SCO Financials
SCO Overview
SCO v IBM
SCO v Novell
SCO:Soup2Nuts
SCOsource
Sean Daly
Software Patents
Switch to Linux
Transcripts
Unix Books

Gear

Groklaw Gear

Click here to send an email to the editor of this weblog.


You won't find me on Facebook


Donate

Donate Paypal


No Legal Advice

The information on Groklaw is not intended to constitute legal advice. While Mark is a lawyer and he has asked other lawyers and law students to contribute articles, all of these articles are offered to help educate, not to provide specific legal advice. They are not your lawyers.

Here's Groklaw's comments policy.


What's New

STORIES
No new stories

COMMENTS last 48 hrs
No new comments


Sponsors

Hosting:
hosted by ibiblio

On servers donated to ibiblio by AMD.

Webmaster
the imminent expiration of the Patents-in-Suit on August 6, 2012 | 300 comments | Create New Account
Comments belong to whoever posts them. Please notify us of inappropriate comments.
the imminent expiration of the Patents-in-Suit on August 6, 2012
Authored by: rsteinmetz70112 on Tuesday, June 05 2012 @ 08:55 AM EDT
Yes but where does someone get notice they are infringing?
Isn't that an important element of damages?

Surely a court would not issue an injunction on an expired patent.

---
Rsteinmetz - IANAL therefore my opinions are illegal.

"I could be wrong now, but I don't think so."
Randy Newman - The Title Theme from Monk

[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]

the imminent expiration of the Patents-in-Suit on August 6, 2012
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 05 2012 @ 01:08 PM EDT
But the real value of patent litigation is the future royalty. No judge is
going to grant an injunction for a patent that has expired. It it the threat of
injunction or an actual injunction which brings the big payoff (see RIM). The
rate of return for suing over an expired or soon to be expired has be be fairly
low (if not negative) once you consider legal costs.

The sad thing is (and you see this even worse with copyright) is that
Intellectual Property laws create a legalized extortion racket which to the
victim is imperceptibly different from organized crime. The money to be made
from the soon to be expired patents was from the shakedown. Oracle bringing
this suit might lead to an injunction against the shakedown (or at least slow it
down) until the matter is resolved.

That is pretty much the only way to stop the trolls -- somebody with deep
pockets needs to fight back.

[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]

Groklaw © Copyright 2003-2013 Pamela Jones.
All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective owners.
Comments are owned by the individual posters.

PJ's articles are licensed under a Creative Commons License. ( Details )