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"Everyone, including Linus, told him he was all wet"
Authored by: BJ on Saturday, June 02 2012 @ 02:54 PM EDT
define Java.

bjd


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"Everyone, including Linus, told him he was all wet"
Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, June 02 2012 @ 03:58 PM EDT
Check your dates; There was no GPL release of Java when Google went with Dalvik
and Android. GPL Java came after Google bought and started developing Android.
Google would have had to drop Dalvik/Android and switch to the GPL Open Source
when it was a release at a later date.

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"Everyone, including Linus, told him he was all wet"
Authored by: PJ on Sunday, June 03 2012 @ 11:26 AM EDT
They were free to do so, as the court has
just ruled. So what is Oracle's beef?

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"Everyone, including Linus, told him he was all wet"
Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, June 03 2012 @ 12:37 PM EDT
You are aware that Oracle sued Google because Google preferred to proceed with their own Java implementation rather than using...
You are aware that nowhere did Google call Dalvik Java; nowhere did Google say that Dalvik is Java; nowhere did Google try to get Dalvik certified as Java; nowhere is it claimed (except by Oracle and its cronies) that Dalvik is Java?

The only pertinence is that Dalvik can be programmed using the Java language (but not necessarily), but that when compiled to a Java bytecode, that code will not run on Dalvik [directly - first it has to be used as the source code to a Dalvik compiler which then outputs a Dalvik bytecode which can be run] - just like a BASIC compiler takes a BASIC program (which can be run by an interpreter) and compiles it to machine code so that it can be run directly by the processor of the machine: in Oracle's terms that CPU was fragmenting the BASIC because a compiler can convert the [interpreted] BASIC into code the CPU can run directly!

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You are aware that Oracle sued Google because....
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, June 04 2012 @ 04:51 PM EDT

.... Oracle wanted licensing fees that they were not entitled to.

That's the fun part with a truly open market:

    You are not required to be anyone's customer.
    Companies do not have a right to collect fees from you just because they want to be able to.

RAS

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