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That's how I understand it, too
Authored by: Ian Al on Saturday, June 02 2012 @ 06:30 AM EDT
Now that I have read your comment, of course!

Judge Alsup ordered that
'For the reasons stated, Google’s defenses of implied license and waiver are rejected on the merits and Google’s defenses of equitable estoppel and laches are denied as moot'.
His arguments are very clear. 'An implied license requires a finding of an affirmative grant of consent or permission. Though rare, consent can be inferred from a course of conduct between parties'.

I do think he is mistaken in citing the licence negotiations as arguing against this as he points out elsewhere in his order that Google were not using the Java trademark and were not claiming Java compatibility. That is what the negotiations were about; the Java trademark and the full Java platform, not just the API Specification.

However, the blog, press statements and the statements at the conferences and exhibitions do not add up to an 'affirmative grant of consent' (although I think they come very, very close).
To prevail on a waiver defense, Google must show by a preponderance of the evidence that Oracle and/or Sun, with full knowledge of the material facts, intentionally relinquished its rights to enforce the rights it now asserts. Waiver of a known right must be “manifested by some overt act indicating an intention to abandon that right.” Micro Star v. Formgen, Inc.,
This is impossible for Google to win. The rights that Oracle now assert were not considered by Sun to be rights that they had at the time Google did the API declaration copying. It was impossible for Sun to intentionally relinquish rights that it never thought it might have.

I assume that 'Google’s defenses of equitable estoppel and laches are denied as moot' because, if the court API decision is reversed, the appeal court could find that the Sun rapturous applause would be a good foundation for those defences.

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Regards
Ian Al
Software Patents: It's the disclosed functions in the patent, stupid!

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