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And yet.... MS has always done that
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, May 25 2012 @ 05:44 PM EDT

What's interesting is an author that writes about MS seems surprised at this.

Perhaps that's an indication that a "microsoft guy" has had sufficient exposure to other business models that he's begining to realize the Microsoft "pay us to lock you in" behavior.

Open source development is similarly disadvantaged. Consider a project such as the server-side JavaScript platform Node.js. Node.js was originally developed for UNIX-like platforms, but its developers have worked hard to make it a first-class citizen on Windows (including some small contributions made by me).
Ahh... so it seems he has been dabbling in the FLOSS ecosystem. Looks like he's just getting his feet wet in the realm most of us are so familiar with:
    Standard Microsoft anti-competitive behavioral patterns.

RAS

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Was it ever?
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, May 25 2012 @ 06:49 PM EDT
Haven't done Winders in a long time, but don't remember Visual Studio as being
free...

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Who cares?
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, May 25 2012 @ 07:53 PM EDT
I have been developing software on the Windows
platform for 20 years,
since Windows 3.1 However, I have no enthusiasm
whatsoever to target
Windows 8. For most of my career, there was no free
compiler available,
and I have never used one. The first free version I
believe was VS2005,
and I don't think you could do GUI development with
it.

Complaining about lack of a free compiler for Windows
8 is a red
herring, when there are so many other things to
complain about.
Anyhow, Windows 8 will bomb, then Microsoft will
change it's mind.

I have no interest in supporting Windows 8 with my
talents and skills. I
will stick to Windows 7 for many years to come, like
most will, then look
around at all the options when it becomes time to
move on.

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    No-cost desktop software development is dead on Windows 8
    Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, May 26 2012 @ 01:55 AM EDT
    While this might be "bad" from the perspective of people who want to
    learn to use Microsoft's tool chain, it's not really that big a deal from the
    perspective of open source development. Just use an open source compiler that
    has been ported to MS Windows. Simples.

    To use Python as an example, they do use the Microsoft compiler for their MS
    Windows versions. That is for the convenience of users writing custom C
    extensions who want to use MS Visual Studio to write the extensions. If this
    becomes a real problem for the users, then the Python developers could simply
    drop the use of the Microsoft compiler and use GCC for all versions. If
    anything, this would actually make life easier for Python developers as it would
    eliminate the need to support two different compilers. Most Python programmers
    don't write C extensions, so they wouldn't notice the difference anyway.

    If any response is required from the open source world, it would be to make it
    easier to set up a working build system for GCC on MS Windows.

    To re-iterate, the problem here is for people who want to use proprietary
    software. Depending on Microsoft being willing to give away a version of their
    products is foolish.

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    No, it is immensely good!
    Authored by: tiger99 on Saturday, May 26 2012 @ 05:10 AM EDT
    Fewer free tools means fewer developers, which means fewer apps, which means less compulsion to use Windoze, which will accelerate the decline of M$, which is immensely good.

    Looks like, having used it extensively, Ellison has sold the Footgun™® to Ballmer.

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