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Learning Android for Java programmers
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, May 21 2012 @ 10:28 PM EDT
I have 15 years of Java experience, but I don't kid myself that I could instantly write a *decent* android app, just like that.

Of course there would be a lot of the environment that I would be comfortable with - and could include many of my favourite Apache libraries.

However, the semantics of get an app to work within an Android environment wouldn't be trivial. Getting things right related to events, services, background threads etc would all be a pain.

I'd imagine the difference being something like swapping from the desktop or applet environment to the servlet (or app server) environment.

The book Professional Android 4 Application Development has over 800 pages devoted to this, and is already aimed at experienced Java programmers. Not much different from the books that aim at J2EE-style development.

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My quick answers
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, May 21 2012 @ 10:42 PM EDT
So the answer then is "no, they don't run as-is".

I think that's going to be fatal to Google's case, if they had gone through some
length to allow J2SE apps to run as-is the interoperability argument would have
been pervasive. Now it looks more like an excuse after the fact.

Harmony could make a strong case here, as it clearly sets out to be
interoperable. On that note it would be odd if the same code was found to be
infringing in one case but not in another. It might be worthwhile for Google to
bring that line of reasoning to the Judge's attention.

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  • My quick answers - Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, May 21 2012 @ 11:58 PM EDT
My quick answers
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, May 22 2012 @ 12:30 AM EDT
> Your quick answers are rubbish. The questions ask about Applications, not
> compiled bytecode. Applications written in java for the most part can be
> made to run on android with minor adjustments.

Yes I agree J2SE Applications can be changed to run on android. The question
was "to what extent" are apps interoperable. And I think the short
answer is that compiled apps are not but the source code is with some
modification.

And the rest of your comment I agree with and it talks to some of the reasons
API's and especially language API's have to be free from copyright restrictions.
But maybe not all relevant to the question of interoperability.

Thanks for your thoughts though

Michael

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