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How many Java Programs are there anyway?. | 214 comments | Create New Account
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How many Java Programs would run with just access to the 37 API's.
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, May 21 2012 @ 08:34 PM EDT
But Enterprise Java Applications are not really a relevant target here - we're
running on a phone, after all...

MSS2

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How many Java Programs would run with just access to the 37 API's.
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, May 21 2012 @ 10:15 PM EDT

Do you think that Android won't do XML ? https:// www.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/library/x-android/

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How many Java Programs would run with just access to the 37 API's.
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, May 21 2012 @ 10:36 PM EDT

I think you have to tweak the question a bit... I would expect that the right question to ask, in this context, would be,

to what extent would Java code that is written so that it is limited to itself, and to the set of interfaces defined by these 37 APIs, run without modification on Android?

And I would expect that the answer to this question would be:

100% of such code would run without modification on Android.

Yes, the code would need to be run through Android's tools, to convert it from JVM bytecode to Android - but no further modification because of the port to Android would be required.

More importantly (?) and vice versa - this is the core of the argument for interoperability between Java and Android...

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How many Java Programs are there anyway?.
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, May 22 2012 @ 02:21 AM EDT
If you consider a Java Program to be equivalent to a desktop PC application then not very many at all.

Pure desktop Java applications have been a dismal market failure since Java was first intoduced. There are a few examples of desktop expereience "real" applications like Eclipse and some products built on the eclipse platform (IBM Rational and others) that are widely used. Other than that pickings are pretty slim.

Java products are targeted at the technical market: 1) enable organizations with small armies of architects, analysts, developers, etc to build one-of-a-kind enterprise scale applications and architectures that end-users consume mostly as web-applications. 2) For coding embedded applications, programs burnt onto a chip and used in a range of applications: smart cards, feature phones, Older RIM smartphones, networking gear, set-top boxes, etc. In Fact, RIM, the only smart phone manufacturer to use JME is being hammered out of existence because their products can't compete. RIM is desperately trying to move to a real *nix based OS for their future BB10 platforms.

Can RIM phone applications run on a regular JVM. No! Can smart card appliations be lifted off a credit/debit card and run on your weblogic server. No! Can RIM BB apps run on your credit card? Can your credit card apps run on your networking gear?

So what java progams are we supposed to be considering that should be able to run on a JVM and an Android platform when there is no cross platform movement among offically sanctioned environments.

The only cross platform movement among any of these offically sanction environments is reusable libaries coded to a small subset of core API's.

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