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Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, May 21 2012 @ 02:38 PM EDT
According to Oracle, it is impossible to write a JVM without violating their patents.
I believe this is mainly because Google re-used the Java bytecode as-is as an intermediate step in compiling Android programs. Both patents being asserted seem intimately tied to bytecode execution. If they had instead written a Java-to-ARM compiler, they probably could have avoided all Java patents, as well as this whole lawsuit. Of course, that is significantly more work than just re-using the excellent optimizing bytecode compilers already out there and then translating it to ARM code...
2. Please learn the differences between Java the language, Java the specification, Java the API, Java the JVM, and Java the bytecode.
As far as Snoracle is concerned, they are all part of one ecosystem that promises universally portable binaries, said promise being broken by Android. See my response to Wol above for what their case argues (as far as I understand it).
3. Please learn about estoppel and laches. What Sun (who owned Java at the time) thought about Java and patents very much matters in regards to what Google could do AT THE TIME.
Oh please. Estoppel and laches always was a long shot defense for Google. Here is what Sun thought at the time: Goog le totally slimed Sun. Google just used Schartz's testimony to confuse the jury. And even then they didn't buy it. The jury answered "YES" for the question on whether Google thought they needed a license.

And really, when Schwartz wrote "we're pleased to add Google's Android to the list [of Java-based platforms]," did Google write back saying, "Uhhh, actually, Android is NOT Java," which is essentially their defense now? Instead, they're now saying "Android is NOT Java, but Schwartz congratulated us on our announcement, which means we had a license to ALL Java-based technology, which, BTW, Android totally is NOT."

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