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Nothing that we registered takes away from our ownership.
Authored by: mcinsand on Friday, May 18 2012 @ 09:08 AM EDT
"Nothing that we registered takes away from our ownership."

Even if failing to properly register does not affect ownership, how can Oracle
assert anything close to what they are claiming in court after past actions?
Endorsing/encouraging, GPL'ing, and public statements are all about actions that
'~take~ away from our ownership.'

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And another thing
Authored by: Ian Al on Friday, May 18 2012 @ 09:27 AM EDT
The Sun Registrations say,
Certificate of Registration

TITLE OF THIS WORK

Java 2 Standard Edition Version 5

PREVIOUS OR ALTERNATIVE TITLES

J2SE 5.0 Java 2 Platform, Standard Edition, Version 5.0 Java 2 Standard Edition 5.0 Software Development Kit, J2SE Development Kit, JDK 5.0

... NATURE OF AUTHORSHIP

New and revised computer code and accompanying documentation and manuals

DERIVATIVE WORK OR COMPILATION

Prior works by claimant and licensed-in components.
So, some of the Java SE components are not owned by Oracle.

From the Opening Expert Report of John C. Mitchell:
I understand that in this case, Oracle has chosen not to assert copyright infringement of several other Java SE packages, in some cases because Oracle uses these packages under license from third parties or allows third parties to utilize these packages under permissive terms. These packages include: java math, java.util.concurrent, java.util.concurrent.atomic, java.util.concurrent.locks, javax.xml, javax.xml.datatype, javax.xml.namespace, javax.xml.parsers, javax.xml.transform, javax.xml.transform.dom, javax.xml.transform.sax, javax.xml.transform.stream, javax.xml.validation, and javax.xml.xpath. These packages are not included in my analysis.
So, 14 of the API packages comprising hundreds of individual documents are not owned by Sun.

The original rangeCheck code was copied from Sun's java.util.Arrays.

The third party APIs that Google were considered by Oracle to have 'copied' include java.util.concurrent, java.util.concurrent.atomic, java.util.concurrent.locks. They agreed that they had no standing to assert these APIs.

The asserted 37 include java.util, but do not include java.util.Arrays.

Thus we know as a fact that some of the java.util API code is not owned by Sun and that they have not confirmed, by asserting it in the 37 accused API packages, that they own all or any of the code in java.util.Arrays.

The eight decompiled test files are not in the asserted APIs. They may have been included in the JDK, but we don't know. There is no evidence that they were written by or owned by Sun. They could have come from the JCP. The judge said that,
Because Oracle properly registered the J2SE 5.0 platform, Google had the burden to overcome the presumption of ownership. 17 U.S.C. 410(c) (certificate of registration “shall constitute prima facie evidence of the validity of the copyright and of the facts stated in the certificate”). This presumption of ownership is true even for individual works that are broadly registered as part of a compilation or derivative work.
That would mean that a registration of an anthology of poems constitutes a prima facie evidence of the ownership of the copyright of the individual poems. 17 U.S.C. 410(c) says quite the opposite. It also draws attention to the ' the facts stated in the certificate'. The facts in this instance state that not all the components of the work are owned by Sun.

I would think that an admission in expert reports and in the registration certificate that some of the poem copyrights were not owned does not constitute prima facie evidence that everything else is owned by the compilation owner. That is especially true when the lack of ownership is discovered well after registration and after a review of only a limited part of the work.

I can see that the poem owner would need to provide evidence of ownership of a poems copyright, but I find it hard to believe that a compilation owner would be able to steal someone's poem and sue someone else for copying it without having to prove ownership.

The judge said:
At trial, Oracle’s Chief Java Engineer, Mark Reinhold, testified that he had reviewed the J2SE 5.0 source code in 2006, long before the start of this litigation, to determine whether the Java API packages in J2SE 5.0 were owned by Sun or third parties (Tr. at 2231). This was done to determine if Sun had the right to open source the code for the API packages. His review found that “Sun had a copyright notice in every single one of the API class source files” for the asserted 37 API packages in this action (Tr. 2231–32). He also testified that nobody has ever asserted that Sun did not own all right, title and interest to these 37 API packages.
As explained above, rangeCheck is not included in the 37 asserted API packages. Neither are the eight decompiled test files. No evidence was produced that Sun owned the copyright for the rangeCheck code at the time that Josh Block copied it. Whatever Mark Reinhold did to obtain copyright, or not, for OpenJDK happened after Josh copied the nine lines in his head.

The judge said
There was sufficient testimony that Exhibit 623 did accurately represent the J2SE 5.0 work registered with the Copyright Office. Google has failed to rebut this testimony.
We have not seen Exhibit 623, but I suspect it is safe to assume that it is something conjured up by Oracle after they disposed of the original evidence just the way they did for the Java SE Specification and associated licence.

He also said:
Judge: I have something I want to say first. I made a mistake, and I want to correct it.

Near the end yesterday we got into a discussion about the ownership of the individual API packages.

Mr. Jacobs said that Purcells admitted that they were not going to contest ownership.

And I said I wasn't going to hold Mr. Purcells to that.

I'm going to retract that. I put that back as an open question.

I had in mind a different colloquy.

I'm not saying I *am* going to hold them to it, but I'm going to hold that open.

Mr. Jacobs: Further to ownership and registration and other formalities. Let me try to narrow scope of issues in dispute.

We no longer seek a package-by-package ruling on infringement as it relates to the code. (Relates to question 2 on verdict form.)

On the document part, we urge that to be treated similar to the code packages.

We seek a ruling on documentation copying. If that ruling comes in the contexgt of 37 packages, that would suffice. We don't need package by package rulings on the documentation. But we do need a ruling on the documentation...

Judge: Was there a disk, and what was on it? And that's not something I can take as self-authenticating from the face of the letter.

I'm not going to rule on this - but tentatively I'm going to rule no - you have to bring this in the right way, with a witness. They (Google) have the right to be mean and nasty - which is what I think they're doing here. I would need some case law to overrule their objection.

Oracle: MRT Construction vs. Hard Drives, Inc. Business records case. Exactly like this case. A file from an outside law firm transferred to Oracle.

Judge: You're not explaining why you can't get Mr. Gonsalves here. You're avoiding that.

I'm not going down this path until you tell me he's unavailable, as in he refused a subpoena.

Oracle: Offer 1076, the CD rom.

Judge: Same ruling (i.e. no, need a witness)

Judge: Those 4 docs are in limbo. I'm not ruling, but I question the foundation. I'm not ruling it out, but I'm not ruling it in based on a proffer.
So, I am unconvinced by the judge's argument especially in the face of the judge's previous position.

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Regards
Ian Al
Software Patents: It's the disclosed functions in the patent, stupid!

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