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When an SSO claim is *ultimately* submitted to a jury
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, May 16 2012 @ 08:32 PM EDT
If it is remanded on appeal, there is no guarantee that it will be Alsup
convening the new jury.

Remand on appeal also implies that the damages award will be either overturned
on appeal, or will have been agreed by the parties to be reheard if liability is
found by the jury on the packages. Since it's been signed by Alsup, it's now
the law of the case and applicable.

Just read the stipulation carefully and think it through - it looks like
everything has been covered.

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When an SSO claim is *ultimately* submitted to a jury
Authored by: PJ on Wednesday, May 16 2012 @ 09:51 PM EDT
Why do young girls date men that have a horrible
reputation? Yet, they do.

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When an SSO claim is *ultimately* submitted to a jury
Authored by: pem on Wednesday, May 16 2012 @ 10:54 PM EDT
Why give them an opening to create another stink over nothing?
I don't think it's a major opening. Sure, if (20 years later) the SSO goes to a jury due to some appeals process, this other stuff will tag along. E.g. if Alsup ruled on rangeCheck and the files, that ruling would be overturned and tag along with SSO to the jury.

But if Alsup decides to rule that SSOs aren't copyrightable at this point, he can decide the rangeCheck and file issue too and produce a "final" verdict on the whole case, which gets it off his docket and makes it ripe for the appeals process. Otherwise, he has to keep the case on his books, and as we saw in the SCO saga, the judge really doesn't like doing that.

Alsup knows there is an excellent chance it will be appealed. I would imagine that, among his other goals, he wants to: (1) see that justice is done in his decision; (2) make his decision as well-reasoned and appeal-proof as possible; and (3) finalize the case so the appeal isn't interlocutory.

So, I could be all wet, but if Alsup rules SSOs are not copyrightable, I expect him to simultaneously rule on damages and finalize the case. Sure, Oracle can say "we're appealing this" but they could say that anyway. More importantly, if the appeals court rules against Oracle on the SSO appeal, they won't have much of an appeal on this issue, because they stipulated to letting the judge decide, and Google gave the judge plenty of ammunition for his decision. Abuse of discretion will be extremely difficult to show.

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