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| Authored by: feldegast on Wednesday, May 16 2012 @ 03:09 PM EDT |
Rachel King @ZDNetRachel
Time for a jury question! Everyone back to the courtroom.
just when @bcbishop thought we were going home...
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, May 16 2012 @ 03:49 PM EDT |
Rachel King @ZDNetRachel
Jury: can "containing" mean inclusion of process, i.e. the symbolic
reference resolution? or is it strictly referring to literal contents?[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, May 16 2012 @ 03:49 PM EDT |
Rachel King @ZDNetRachel
Oracle says "containing" means inclusion of process. Google disagrees,
says confined to literal contents.[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, May 16 2012 @ 03:51 PM EDT |
Rachel King @ZDNetRachel
Judge says Google's view is best; "cant imagine any other way to go on
this;" said even Mitchell saw this. Going with literal contents only
Rachel King ‏@ZDNetRachel
Despite Jacobs trying one last time to convince him otherwise, Alsup said no to
ORCL. Jury coming back into courtroom for instructions.[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, May 16 2012 @ 03:51 PM EDT |
Rachel King @ZDNetRachel
Jury: can "containing" mean
inclusion of process, i.e. the symbolic reference resolution? or is it strictly
referring to literal contents?
Rachel King
@ZDNetRachel
Oracle says "containing" means inclusion of process.
Google disagrees, says confined to literal contents.
Jury:
Please tell us how to rule on the '104 patent.
Oracle: You should rule in
our favor!
Google: Nooo, you should rule in OUR favor!
Can't wait to
see what Judge Alsup tells them. My prediction is he says "your instructions
are clear" and doesn't give them any more hint about this particular q. [ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, May 16 2012 @ 03:55 PM EDT |
Rachel King @ZDNetRachel
Jury actually gearing up to leave at 1PM. Judge asked if that's still the case.
ALL of them nodded. They're ready to hit the road.[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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| Authored by: feldegast on Thursday, May 17 2012 @ 11:25 AM EDT |
Rachel King @ZDNetRachel
They have the yummy breakfast sandwiches at courthouse cafe
today!
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| Authored by: YurtGuppy on Thursday, May 17 2012 @ 01:20 PM EDT |
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, May 17 2012 @ 03:04 PM EDT |
Bryan Bishop ‏@bcbishop
Still no word from the jury today in Oracle vs. Google.
Scheduled lunch break is upon us. Jury resumes in 30 minutes.[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, May 17 2012 @ 03:36 PM EDT |
Rachel King ‏@ZDNetRachel
Jury note! Quick![ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, May 17 2012 @ 03:36 PM EDT |
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, May 17 2012 @ 03:37 PM EDT |
Rachel King @ZDNetRachel
Oracle's lawyers were all here already, as was Google's Bruce
Baber, who has been on watch all AM. Alsup arrived before
rest of team Google[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, May 17 2012 @ 03:37 PM EDT |
Rachel King ‏@ZDNetRachel
Note hasn't been read yet, but both sides are deep in huddle
about what to do with the jury's question. What does it say??[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, May 17 2012 @ 03:40 PM EDT |
Rachel King @ZDNetRachel
Jury: We are attempting to determine the scope and meaning of
"simulating execution of the bytecodes…" in patent '520.[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, May 17 2012 @ 03:44 PM EDT |
Rachel King @ZDNetRachel
Question isn't a legal question, not asking about meaning of
instructions; asking how to evaluate the evidence concerning
how Android works[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, May 17 2012 @ 03:47 PM EDT |
Rachel King ‏@ZDNetRachel
Alsup offering to bring the jury back out so each side can
argue for 5 minutes each on how to answer the question.[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, May 17 2012 @ 03:48 PM EDT |
Rachel King ‏@ZDNetRachel
Jacobs said no to the argument and says let court give
advice. Van Nest seems caught in the middle between that and
5-min argument option[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, May 17 2012 @ 03:50 PM EDT |
Rachel King @ZDNetRachel
Alsup's ruling: Your ? is one that goes to the weight of the
evidence, so that's up to you to decide. (basically, figure
it out yourselves)[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, May 17 2012 @ 04:00 PM EDT |
Rachel King @ZDNetRachel
When Alsup told the jury he couldnt help them, one juror
nodded, while another looked down, maybe upset. The others
didnt reveal any emotion[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, May 17 2012 @ 04:47 PM EDT |
Rachel King @ZDNetRachel
Another jury ?. I bet they just rephrased it...[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, May 17 2012 @ 04:50 PM EDT |
Ginny LaRoe ‏@GinnyLaRoe
@ZDNetRachel are they staying until 4?
Rachel King ‏@ZDNetRachel
@GinnyLaRoe Unless they come up with a verdict before then...[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, May 17 2012 @ 04:51 PM EDT |
Rachel King ‏@ZDNetRachel
Jury requesting transcript of a portion of Dr. Mitchell's testimony be read;
concerning pattern matching versus simulated execution.[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, May 17 2012 @ 04:53 PM EDT |
Rachel King ‏@ZDNetRachel
Jacobs said it will take 10 min to prepare. Van Nest said 25. Judge giving 30
minutes.
Rachel King @ZDNetRachel
Will be back in 30, but we can ponder until then about what the jury might be
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, May 17 2012 @ 05:15 PM EDT |
Rachel King ‏@ZDNetRachel
First time I've ever seen a jury note handed to Alsup. He ordered for lawyers to
be called back, although originally it wasnt until 2:20
Rachel King ‏@ZDNetRachel
Google went straight into huddle mode. This is business. Alsup asking to get
Oracle lawyers up here now.
Rachel King ‏@ZDNetRachel
Huddle breaks. Alsup says he'll continue with another case in the meantime.
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, May 17 2012 @ 05:19 PM EDT |
Rachel King @ZDNetRachel
Oracle's lawyers are back, but the problem now is the regular court reporter for
#OraclevGoogle isn't in the room.
Rachel King ‏@ZDNetRachel
The current court reporter seems reluctant to take over in #OraclevGoogle.
Rachel King ‏@ZDNetRachel
Alsup doesn't care. Tells the court reporter to do it anyway.[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, May 17 2012 @ 05:23 PM EDT |
Rachel King ‏@ZDNetRachel
Juror note: I'm sick. Can I get a sick day without being
discharged. Sorry.
Rachel King ‏@ZDNetRachel
She's coughing into her shirt now. Alsup mulling over what
to do. She says she doesnt want to be discharged -- very
animatedly.
Rachel King ‏@ZDNetRachel
Juror says she wants to take a nap because she's tired. (I'm
not making this up.)
Rachel King ‏@ZDNetRachel
Alsup says if you want to go home now, he's sympathetic. If
she wants Friday off, he's skeptical.[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, May 17 2012 @ 05:24 PM EDT |
Rachel King ‏@ZDNetRachel
Alsup says if you want to go home now, he's sympathetic. If
she wants Friday off, he's skeptical.[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, May 17 2012 @ 05:26 PM EDT |
Rachel King ‏@ZDNetRachel
Here's the plan: Send jury home now. If she's still sick
tomorrow, she gets discharged. Alsup not wasting time, but
jury dropping like flies
Rachel King ‏@ZDNetRachel
Entire jury back now. Alsup gives plan rundown; jokes she
hangs at hospital too much.[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, May 17 2012 @ 05:29 PM EDT |
Rachel King ‏@ZDNetRachel
So guess we're not getting that transcript reading today.
Jury will be heading home now instead of 4PM.[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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