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Ellison's grandstanding
Authored by: BJ on Tuesday, May 15 2012 @ 05:28 PM EDT
would almost lead you to conclude there might be a
troublesome awareness of some deficiency somewhere.

bjd


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Encouraging the Beast
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, May 15 2012 @ 05:43 PM EDT
I do work for Boeing and I have not heard of this. Could this be related to the
Castle Rock activities? Please do tell more. Thanks.

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Oracle Java binaries are not freely licensed
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, May 15 2012 @ 05:56 PM EDT
Boeing is not the only company who has heard from Oracle. I've mentioned this
before, the downloaded binaries exclude use where Java is a critical part of the
system operation. Use Java in your web server CGI processing, and Sun/Oracle
expects a license fee to use their binary. [Yes, Sun did this before Oracle took
over] Read the click-through license and see what it really says. The main
things that don't require payment are using Java to develop and test Java
programs, and in downloaded Web code run in a browser. In this sense, the JDK
used for developing Android applications appears to fit within free usage. Sell
a product that depends on Java for some of it's functionality, pay Oracle for a
license. If you download Oracle's binaries and use them to run JBoss, Oracle
likely considers that a license is required. If you must use Java, OpenJDK has a
much friendlier license.

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Encouraging the Beast
Authored by: hAckz0r on Tuesday, May 15 2012 @ 06:23 PM EDT
I wonder how companies like Mathworks (aka Matlab) will deal with Oracle trying to extort even more money out of them. I'm sure Mathworks has a JAVA license, but to Oracle does that license extend to Mathworks customers? From what I know about Oracle, they might not think so. I keep as far away from Oracle as I possibly can.

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DRM - As a "solution", it solves the wrong problem; As a "technology" its only 'logically' infeasible.

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Encouraging the Beast
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, May 15 2012 @ 11:00 PM EDT
If Oracle loses to Google maybe Boeing can license the dex
toolkkit and the Davlick VM. I'm pretty sure that Google
might just give them away.

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not at all the Sun way
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, May 15 2012 @ 11:25 PM EDT
I remember years ago (more than I care to remember) talking to some folks at
Sun and wondering about what they were doing with, as a specific example,
NFS.

It was openly available and anyone could implement it.
"What's the plan?" I asked naively. "What's the point in giving
it away?"

The response was instructive and not at all what I had expected.

"Of course we give it away, and we hope everyone implements it.
We hope it becomes an industry standard." As it has become.

"But we were there first and we can do it better. It just means that
we have to keep running faster than all the others."

And they did [for a while]

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