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| Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, May 15 2012 @ 01:48 PM EDT |
The point of the testimony was that dexopt doesn't rely on Dalvik VM, so the
presence of Dalvik VM on the device is meaningless. If it was not running, or,
more appropriately, doing something entirely unrelated, then it's not related.[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, May 15 2012 @ 01:50 PM EDT |
This is interesting actually, and a point that should have been made.
Allthough dalvik VM's are running, they are running as a different user IDs than
the app in question will run as. There's a very strict wall between them.
That should even be true during the dexopt - because it needs to create .odex
files which are not writable by the appliction itself, dexopt runs as a
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, May 16 2012 @ 01:41 AM EDT |
Two things.
1. Google hands a non programmer (one of the jury for example) a sheet of say 10
lines of code, says: Find the word "void", scratch it out and write
"lies" where it was. Congratulations, you just pattern matched and did
a substitution.
2. Now tell me what that block of code does.
The fact that they could do step 1, without knowing number 2 proves 100% that
pattern matching isn't simulation.
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The other thing Google should have done is argue more on the whole runtime
thing. One question would probably have done it. (to the experts)
If the Dalvik VM was not running, or was stopped from running completely while
dexopt was reading the app, would this make any difference at all to dexopt.
The answer is no... and it couldn't' be argued any other way. (except perhaps
suggesting it would run better without the VM due to extra resources
available).
I think Google should have found some more lawyers that are good programmers..
this should have been kind of obvious.
Had I been in Van nests shoes, I'd probably have finished by saying:
"I think I've just now worked out Oracles final argument... If we can get
to apply totally new meaning to the words Data, numeric and Runtime, we can win
if we can confuse the jury enough."
I'd also have said that Oracle confusing the jury by implying that the VM is
running during dexopt, even if it's running is totally unrelated to dexopt was
insulting their intelligence.
He did all right with what he had though. :-)
cheers
Franki
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