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Oracle v. Google
Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, May 13 2012 @ 09:33 PM EDT
So with a patent, anyone can claim anything as infringing and it's up to the
defendant to prove otherwise. Fun way to turn the system upside down. Specially
when almost no one in the court will likely have a good idea of what they are
talking about anyways.

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Oracle v. Google
Authored by: hAckz0r on Monday, May 14 2012 @ 12:31 PM EDT
Yes, and what the defendant needs to prove is a negative. You can't logically prove a negative , so the current system is logically unfair to the defendant. When you can not defend yourself because it is a logical impossibility to do so, then something is very very wrong.

With the current legal system the other side need only to show that 'it looks like that patent was infringed'. To a non-technical jury that bar can be pretty darn low. If the prosecution were instead forced to show the actual lines of code in the infringing product that implement each of the claims found in a software patent then there would be a lot fewer lawsuits.

If they can't point to it for the jury to see those lines of code, and then let the defendant refute that code selection purpose, then the lawsuit is completely prejudicial against the defendant. This should be ruled unconstitutional.

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DRM - As a "solution", it solves the wrong problem; As a "technology" its only 'logically' infeasible.

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