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I think you misunderstand the Question
Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, May 06 2012 @ 01:56 PM EDT
On .NET and Java being "unrelated".

It's technically true, that the .NET platform is not derived from Microsoft's J++ stuff.. its superficially Java-like (and the C# language is also very Java-like) but .NET had the benefit of coming second, so they could already look at the existing Java VMs and their design weaknesses. They could also see the strengths (e.g. the binary compatibility of bytecode across different target platforms and even different CPU architectures) and .NET was obviously designed to give the same benefits.

They made .NET with an explicit goal of supporting multiple different languages, and supporting proper interoperability between any of the languages. So .NET has an "object model" which all of the .NET-hosted languages need to conform to or implement in some way, but it enables you to write a class in one language and then sub-class it in a different language, for example! Because it's the same object-model underneath. It's expressive enough to handle a managed flavor of C++, and functional languages like F# and Haskell, and a bunch of others.

While the Java VM can also support multiple languages, its design was initially very Java-centric. Most of the existing languages at the time Java launched had features that you could not adapt to a Java VM in a sensible way. Most of the languages that can run on a Java VM were developed after the Java VM, and could take its quirks into account.

.NET is not perfect either, but its architecture is a bit more "well rounded" when it comes to supporting other languages. Of course C# and VB.NET get most of the attention, but Microsoft Research has some famous people working there on F# and other stuff.

.NET was mostly shunned by the open-source crowd because it was "single-source" and that single source was Microsoft (an untrustworthy ally if ever there was one), and Java was usually preferred instead. Thanks to Oracle, we might now see that trend reverse! After this lawsuit, Java now looks at least as closed and proprietary as .NET was.


On the lesser of two evils:

So we now have two software VM platforms to choose from, both owned by a single control-freak steward company.

Microsoft is like an elderly and diseased animal, usually docile, but it might turn rabid and aimlessly attack from time to time. In comparison, Oracle is an angry vampire, wanting to suck the blood of the Java community. Or maybe Oracle is just a necromancer, and Zombie-Former-Sun is its reanimated corpse. I'd rather be locked in a room with the lawyers of MS-Animal than those of Oracle-Zombie.

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