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| Authored by: Kilz on Saturday, May 05 2012 @ 12:56 PM EDT |
To me, oracle is getting ready to slice open the goose that
lays golden eggs. They think that they will get a huge payout
from the court. But what may happen is they end up with a
dead bird and no eggs.
Sco proved a point that when you piss off developers and open
source people they walk away. Your name is mud, and you pay
the price.
While Oracle has more money that SCO and will live on past
the court. I think they will hurt themselves big time and the
money coming in will slowly dry up.[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, May 05 2012 @ 01:13 PM EDT |
Java is still the primary language in learning and in usage.
However, Java coding skills applied to Android do not benefit
Java as a movement, as a family. It's far better to cleave
entirely from Android and lose some support rather than
allowing Android to siphon off future support in perpetuity.[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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| Authored by: jbb on Saturday, May 05 2012 @ 01:23 PM EDT |
| ISTM that any auto-translation tool would be at risk of violating Oracle's
precious API copyrights either as a derivation or possibly as a weird form of an
implementation.
If an auto-translation tool does infringe then it solves
nothing. If it doesn't infringe then Google could (as you suggest) changes the
APIs internally and add the auto-translate tool to their build tool-chain.
Presto! Everyone's code that uses the Java APIs would still run on Android with
no modifications and Oracle's precious API copyrights would be worthless.
Oracle has already said that the new API copyright law they are asking for is
asymmetrical so application programs that make use of an API and are derived
from an API do not infringe that API.
IMO the auto-translate dilemma
does not imply that your idea is bad. Instead, it highlights how ridiculous API
copyrights are because they are either worthless (if auto-translation is
allowed) or they provide copyright protection for all code that was written
using the API (if auto-translation is banned).
It is hard to believe
grown-ups are actually wasting so much time and energy over such a ridiculous
idea as API copyrights. It is said that when you enter the world of quantum
mechanics, you have to hang up your common sense by the door. It seems that
sometimes when you enter a US courtroom you have to hang up both your real-word
logic and your common sense by the door.
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Our job is to remind
ourselves that there are more contexts
than the one we’re in now — the one that we think is reality.
-- Alan Kay [ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, May 06 2012 @ 05:57 AM EDT |
They are not driving away java developers, this case has nothing to do with
writing software in the java language.
If, if, if, if, oracle win it is highly likely android will just become
compatible
with sun's java. That is a huge win for the java developer community.
It is clear from the companies that have joined openjdk in recent times that
they don't share your doomsday scenarios in any way whatsoever.[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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