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Java coding skills
Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, May 05 2012 @ 03:43 PM EDT
You say Java coding skills learned through Android
development do not
benefit the Java community at large, beyond Android.

How can you possibly say that? It is simply not true!

If somebody who never programmed in Java learns
Android
development he is very well positioned to quickly
become a Java
programmer.

I can testify to that personally.

Sent from my Android phone

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You have it completely backward
Authored by: jbb on Saturday, May 05 2012 @ 05:40 PM EDT
I wholeheartedly agree with the response directly above. The ironic thing is that Google tried very hard to keep their version of Java as compatible as possible with Oracle's version. This is exactly what Oracle is suing about. Oracle is saying that Google should have made up a new set of incompatible APIs. If Google had done that then what you complain about would have been true.

I've taught Java for a number of years. The language itself is very simple. The tricky part is remembering all the APIs you need to use. As long as the core APIs stay the same (where they overlap) then switching between Android and Sun Java is a breeze. For example, if you change from working on Android to working on server-side programming, some of the APIs you use will be different. This is natural because the things you work with will be different. Servers usually have no touch screens or motion sensors. As long as the core APIs don't change, you will be fine.

This is exactly the point the OP was making. Google made their version as compatible as possible so programmers could easily switch back and forth between Oracle-Java and Android-Java. Oracle, in its infinite wisdom is trying to break this compatibility or at the very least get Google to pay a hefty sum for the sin of being a good upstanding member of the Java Community Sun welcomed them to.

If Google had made incompatible core APIs, Sun would have been outraged and they would have had a legitimate complaint that Google was fracturing the Java community for no good reason. Google did the right thing back then and now they are getting sued for it.

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than the one we’re in now — the one that we think is reality.
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