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I don't see how
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, May 02 2012 @ 11:14 AM EDT
AFAIK, the derivative work is not being created by linking against an API, it is being created by linking against an implementation of that API. The GPL clauses only come into play when the only implementation of the API is under GPL or when that is the implementation required for some other reason.
So the existence of a non-GPL alternate implementation changes the picture? Does the alternate need to be functional vs simple stubs? What if dynamically linking against the alternate results in execution without runtime errors, but that doesn't actually accomplish anything?
Somehow there are people (like the poster before me) who don't see this as reasonable exit clause, but to me it seems like a rather simple way to make sure the development stays public: if you don't or can't accept the licensing rules set by the copyright owner of the library, you are free to contact them for a separate arrangement or to roll your own implementation and use that instead.
The difference between RMS's motivations and Ellison's matter little under the law. The main question of law is the extent to which copyright law gives the copyright owner the right to make/enforce rules. Clearly there has to be a limit, the question is where it is.

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I don't see how
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, May 02 2012 @ 11:16 AM EDT
in dynamic linking the library is a shared object
it is not included in your program

It may be loaded into memory by something else

In a dynamically linked application there is only use of an API.

In a statically linked application, the library is included in the final binary
compilation

In the latter, your work and the GPL work become part of the same thing, you
have to distribute the library with your work, they are inseparable, that is
understandable.

With dynamic linking it is possible to ship an application without including the
library, so long as the recipient has a copy of the library, it will work.

As someone pointed out the FSF views dynamic linking as making a derivative
work.

This makes about as much sense as Oracle do at the moment.

This is also the excuse that Microsoft needed to accuse the GPL of being 'viral'

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I don't see how
Authored by: kuroshima on Thursday, May 03 2012 @ 03:59 AM EDT
Here's something I never really understood about dynamic linking and the GPL
(Static linking is clear). Assume that I create a program that links against a
standard API via dynamic linking. That API is implemented by multiple vendors,
under a pletora of software licenses, including severeal comercial, closed
source ones, a BSD one, an MPL v1 one, an LGPL one, and a GPL one. They all
function as drop in replacements for one another, and I, as the creator of the
program, have no control over what the program will link to. I'm not forced to
release it for all possible compatible licenses right? specially given that
there are multiply incompatible ones involved. In fact, it can be even more
confusing if there is a single library, that is distributed under multiple
licenses, such as, for example, the license set for LibreOffice. You can not
discern what license the user accepted when it installed the library.

Second issue, assume that you release the code for a program under an
Apache/BSD/other GPL compatible permisive license, but build the program for
personal use by linking to a GPL library, because it performs better than the
drop-in replacement under a permisive license. The binary as a whole is thus
under the GPL. The trick here is that if I don't distribute the binary, but I
only distribute the code, I'm not bound by the GPL right? even if I include
instructions and/or build scripts for both the permisive license library and the
GPL library?

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