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See Sega v. Accolade
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, May 02 2012 @ 06:38 PM EDT
If Oracle wins this case (by hook or crook) the results for the U.S. software
industry will be apocalyptically bad.

The rest of the world will probably rejoice, at least in the short term. But
the U.S. is alarmingly good at exporting their bad laws to other countries, so I
think if Oracle somehow wins this, then no one is safe from the potential
long-term bad effects.

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Denial of Summary Judgment
Authored by: jbb on Wednesday, May 02 2012 @ 07:23 PM EDT
When Alsup denied Google's motion for summary judgment he said:
“Words and short phrases such as names, titles, and slogans” are “not subject to copyright.” 37 C.F.R. 202.1(a); Planesi v. Peters, No. 04-16936, slip op. at *1 (9th Cir. Aug. 15, 2005). Google argues that “the names of the Java language API files, packages, classes, and methods are not protectable as a matter of law” (Br. 17). This order agrees. Because names and other short phrases are not subject to copyright, the names of the various items appearing in the disputed API package specifications are not protected. See Sega Enters. Ltd. v. Accolade, Inc., 977 F.2d 1510, 1524 n.7 (9th Cir. 1992) (“Sega’s security code is of such de minimis length that it is probably unprotected under the words and short phrases doctrine.”).
He might have said more elsewhere, perhaps at a hearing, but the point Oracle made which the judge agreed with is the amount of copying in Sega was orders of magnitude smaller than the copying here so the judge ruled that Sega did not apply. IMO, this is why SSO got past summary judgment; what was copied in Sega was so small that it didn't have any SSO and thus the Sega decision does not speak to SSO.

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See Sega v. Accolade
Authored by: hardmath on Wednesday, May 02 2012 @ 10:27 PM EDT
That's my take as well, PJ. Presumably Judge Alsup buys the principle that APIs
made available for calling are not protectable for independent implementation.

But this is a major leap forward in clarity, and to preserve the progress of the
case against a possible reversal at the appellate level, he's taking the
roundabout way.

I'm convinced that if he didn't buy Google's argument, he would have already
ruled in that fashion, since an appellate overturning of that ruling would leave
little for the lower court to rehear.

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