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I wonder where they are giong with this - APIs from Apache... | 63 comments | Create New Account
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I wonder where they are giong with this - APIs from Apache...
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, May 01 2012 @ 03:17 PM EDT
Something along the lines of, "if Google got them from Apache Harmony, then
any wrondoing would fall on Apache - Google just got them from Apache in good
faith" ...
(I don't know if this would fly, as a legal argument ...)

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I wonder where they are giong with this - APIs from Apache...
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, May 01 2012 @ 04:30 PM EDT
The asking of this question, I fear, bodes ill in two
respects.

First it suggests punctilious observance of jury
instructions perhaps to the displacement of common sense.

Second, though we ourselves understand that code developers
will share and discuss openly JAVA's API under the widely
held convention that it is _not_ copyrightable; thus may be
be made generally available, the jury, or single member of
it, might be operating under the idea that some sort of
bootlegged copy is circulating the development community,
courtesy Apache, without a _requirered_ license from SUN or
Oracle for it.

I don't think the collaborative aspect of code development;
hence the need for this tool to facilitate interoperability,
was well conveyed to this lay jury.

The tenor by Oracle's lawyers was repetitively strident on
this sacrilegious theft : Something illegitimate had to have
been taken! And its creative content, so original, could
only have come from SUN!

JCP ? JSPA ?? TCK ?? Those are just annoying acronyms of
Geek speak.

OTOH they who teach about crowd sourcing, might tell us not
to underestimate the collective wisdom of the jury.

I confess, the world's gone half crazy with Intellectual
Property rights, and the suspense regarding the minds of the
other half is driving me nuts !!

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