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Divide by Zero Problem
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, April 27 2012 @ 10:53 PM EDT
> The disc is blank

So Oracle could write anything they like on the label,
and good luck proving them wrong.

Paging Mr. Gonsalves. Mr. Gonsalves to Courtroom 8 please...

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That's a Titanic Technicality!
Authored by: jbb on Saturday, April 28 2012 @ 03:48 AM EDT
With all their tap dancing around what the work as a whole is, Oracle tripped up and got their foot stuck in the door.

I wonder what would be the best way for Google to exploit this? IIRC, the judge didn't think it would be a good idea for Google to place all their eggs in this basket. OTOH, it might be hard for Google to resist letting the jury know about this major slip up. I would suggest they use it as supporting evidence of what they've been saying all along: Oracle made this all up to cash in on Google's hard work.

If Oracle's claims were true that these copyrights are the crown jewels of their purchase of Sun and that these copyrights are worth beeellions of dollars then you would think they would have taken a little better care of them. This looks like some last minute slapdash amateur stunt, not the crown jewels of a mega-corporation. Something is not right with the picture Oracle is trying to present. But this slip up fits perfectly with what Google has been saying all along.

Google could tell the jury: "sure, you could decide in our favor based only on this titanic technicality but we would prefer that you decide in our favor based on the facts, or lack thereof, that have been presented in this case." If they can also highlight some of the obvious lies told under oath by Oracle, they should have a pretty good case. Ellison got caught in an obvious lie. McMealy also lied when he said Schwartz' blog was not official. I wonder if it is too late for Google to point that out?

There is also a lot of obvious evidence that Oracle has not shown the jury. If their story were true then there should have been emails and other communications between Sun and Google over licensing issues starting right after November 12, 2007 when the Android SDK was released. The code was open for everyone to see. Why did Google make it open for everyone to see if it contained stolen property? Why didn't Sun immediately sue Google to stop Google from giving Sun's precious IP to the world? Why is there no written documentation of Sun's outrage or even of an attempt to negotiate a license? I guess we will just have to take their word for it that their story is true. I've got a feeling the name SCOracle is going to stick.

I'm sure glad we don't have to wait until the end of the entire trial to hear the jury's verdict on the copyright claims. This is all very exciting.

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-- Alan Kay

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Lot of fuss over admitting the disc in an unimpeachable way...
Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, April 28 2012 @ 07:05 AM EDT
Is the disk actually, physically blank as opposed to just
being unreadable?

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The disk is blank...
Authored by: BJ on Saturday, April 28 2012 @ 02:14 PM EDT
...sounds like a variation on the assertion 'the parrot is dead', and
--hopefully-- with the same result.

bjd

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Then it's NULL
Authored by: scav on Sunday, April 29 2012 @ 07:22 AM EDT
According to Oracle's crazy database anyway, which doesn't
distinguish between an empty string and NULL.

Any attempt to add this into their evidence should result in
the sum total of their evidence being NULL too, which sounds
about right :)

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The emperor, undaunted by overwhelming evidence that he had no clothes,
redoubled his siege of Antarctica to extort tribute from the penguins.

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  • Huh? Explain... - Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, April 29 2012 @ 10:43 AM EDT
    • Huh? Explain... - Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, April 29 2012 @ 11:17 AM EDT
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