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But the "greater than sign" IS an API | 687 comments | Create New Account
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But the "greater than sign" IS an API
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, April 27 2012 @ 10:27 PM EDT
This is causing a lot of confusion, but, thankfully, this confusion is outside
the courtroom.
In the courtroom, the API is being defined as the various packages in java, and
being used consistently. The operators and details of the language, like + ++
< etc, are part of what is being called the 'java language'.
Of course, this distinction does not exist outside of this court case. The basic
(small-j) java API has always been considered as much part of java as '=' is,
and I'd like that information to get into this court, somehow.

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But the "greater than sign" IS an API
Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, April 28 2012 @ 12:40 AM EDT

The '>' is a symbol that is treated as the greater-than operator in java. I wouldn't call it an api: I think it's closer in concept to a keyword than a method. But, really, it's an operator. Now operators generally have a singular meaning, except for + which adds numbers and appends strings (under the hood, a StringBuilder is instantiated and the + invokes append()) and - which is a numeric complement and subtraction.

I know what Oracle has said has changed. But this week, they've been onto this assertion "In creating its language, and for commercial gain, Google copied substantial portions of the SSO of the java documentation and api."

This is not Oracle saying to Google "You wrote programs in java and now you owe us."

I think int Math.max(int) was used to demonstrate that there are multiple ways to write the implementing source (and Oracle's and Google's compilers generate different and incompatible bytecode.) I thought it was well used today to clearly demonstrate both sides' points. Google did not copy code, implementations take up the lion's share of the creative work, and Oracle made the point that Google had to have copied the methods of java.lang.Math package and the classes and method name in java.lang.* without omission or variation in order for programmers who knew how to use and who have used the int max(int) function in their java programs to confidently take their unmodified source and compile to Android/dalvik.

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