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Apache's Harmony is open source too!
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 26 2012 @ 08:32 PM EDT
So effectively for a business who wants to publicly distribute their version of
it, it is "non-free".

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TCK also needed for patent protection
Authored by: jbb on Thursday, April 26 2012 @ 10:06 PM EDT
The "Java" trademark was the carrot. The (presumed) patents were the stick. The patent part was explained quite clearly in the fine article I linked it in my original post.

For the gory details, read the JSPA. Passing the TCK test gave you rights to use the "Java" name and also gave you rights to all the "IP". It was always assumed that "IP" meant patents. The open-source TCK is explicitly no good for mobile devices. It is no good for any open-source implementation as well because the field of use restriction is incompatible with almost all open-source licenses.

Here we are in the middle of a huge trial where Google is being sued for using Sun "IP" in Android. These suggestions that Google would have been better off using much more Sun "IP" in Android seem a bit hare-brained. Especially so since Sun implied it had patent protection for some of the technology tested by the TCK.

I don't think anyone would have predicted Oracle was going to claim copyright protection of APIs. It was even more surprising that those claims managed to survive summary judgment. The only advantage I can see to using OpenJDK instead of Harmony was the crazy API claims. Oracle pretty much just made those up. No one could have predicted it. Up until now, the big scary IP problem in software has been patents not API copyrights.

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