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Google tries to win on a technicality, claims Oracle's Java copyrights were filed wrong | 438 comments | Create New Account
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Google tries to win on a technicality, claims Oracle's Java copyrights were filed wrong
Authored by: PJ on Thursday, April 26 2012 @ 02:13 PM EDT
It's not a technicality. It's the law. Bryan
is wrong on this one, although most of his
reporting has been excellent, albeit with a
bit of an anti-Google bias.

He doesn't yet understand what this issue
is about, because the lawyers are talking to
the judge in their legal shorthand. That's
why the media yesterday didn't even notice
the Rule 50 motion. I did, but nobody else,
and I truly thank mirror_slap for his incredibly
lengthy notes, because without it, I never
would have been able to notice it either, if
all we had was the media. And of course
that's the value add of Groklaw. We do understand
the legal process, and there is a lawyer and
a paralegal on board. It obviously makes a
difference in trial reporting. But without the
volunteers going to the court, we'd be at a
loss. So it's a group effort, and I'm having
so much fun, exhausting but thrilling.

What a lawyer Van Nest is. But there's miles
to go before we sleep. I'm sure McNealy will
try to rebut Schwartz.

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Oracle slips while tap dancing. Blames Google.
Authored by: jbb on Thursday, April 26 2012 @ 03:52 PM EDT
Oracle's API case is based entirely on classic BS&F tactics that we've come to know and loathe. They try to keep as much of their case as undefined as possible and force Google to commit to a defense. After Google commits, Oracle suddenly switches to a different meaning or definition. They did this with the original claims asking the judge to force Google to be specific in their defenses before Oracle was specific in their claims. They've done it all along regarding the definition of an API. We were in mid-trial when the judge asked the parties to define what an API really is. They did it again with keeping the definition of the "selection, structure, and organization" of APIs as vague as possible. They did it yet again dancing around whether the APIs would be considered individually or as a whole.

All Google is saying is that Oracle cannot have their cake and eat it too. Oracle has to pick one story and stick to it. The thing is that if Oracle hadn't been doing all this fancy footwork then they would have already lost on this issue and it wouldn't be part of the jury trial. It is only fitting that Oracle would trip themselves up in their own fancy footwork.

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Our job is to remind ourselves that there are more contexts than the one we’re in now — the one that we think is reality.
-- Alan Kay

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