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JDoes anyone have proof that Oracle GPL'd the java programming language?
Authored by: PolR on Monday, April 23 2012 @ 05:24 AM EDT
This is a release of Java *implementations* under the GPL. Programmers
distinguish between the language and its implementations. They think
implementations may be copyrighted and licensed but not the language itself.
This means you should be able to make and distribute an independent
implementation of a language without infringing on a copyright on another
implementation.

This situation raises a question on Mark's "work as a whole" argument.
It is based on a GPL release of Java implementations. Why would anyone be able
to invoke the GPL and hold Sun/Oracle to it when the contested code is not
derived from any GPLed implementation? There is a missing link why I don't
see.

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That article does not support Mark's statement
Authored by: s65_sean on Monday, April 23 2012 @ 07:18 AM EDT
that article says:
Sun is opening the door to greater innovation by open sourcing key Java implementations—Java Platform Standard Edition (Java SE), Java Platform Micro Edition (Java ME), and Java Platform Enterprise Edition (Java EE)—under the GNU General Public License version 2 (GPLv2), the same license as GNU/Linux.
It does not say anything about open sourcing the java language. The things mentioned in that article are java implementations, not the java language.

Mark's statement, which you repeated, says that Oracle released the java programming language under GPLv2.

This is confusing to me, and possibly many other readers, in the same way that Oracle's song and dance in this trial has been confusing to the judge and jury. You are making statements about the implementations and claiming that they apply to the language, just as Oracle has tried to confuse the court about the differences between the language, the APIs, the implementations, the JDK and the TCK. According to Oracle, they are all "java" and so refer to things about each of them as if they are all the same thing.

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