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Pirate Party? (OT) | 62 comments | Create New Account
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Google and Politics
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 19 2012 @ 09:55 AM EDT
Maybe Google aren't, as part of their "do no evil" motto?

Note that "do no evil" is not nessicarilly the same as "do
good"

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IMO this is Oracles answer to Groklaw
Authored by: jvillain on Thursday, April 19 2012 @ 12:30 PM EDT
All the PR spin in the world is meaningless if Google wins this case.

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IMO this is Oracles answer to Groklaw
Authored by: PJ on Thursday, April 19 2012 @ 03:28 PM EDT
I've wondered about that too. Their big PR
blitz didn't work out as they hoped. And
he was perhaps, I'm imagining, holding out
for money, mo' money, or he wouldn't write,
so they got it settled when Ellison looked
so, so terrible on the stand and got
embarrassed in the media.

But that's just my personal thinking, not
facts that are on the table. Just saying
I've been wondering too. Because they did
get zonked. The media is now aware that
there are two sides to this story. It used
to be there was only one. $6 billion.

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Pirate Party? (OT)
Authored by: mschmitz on Thursday, April 19 2012 @ 05:01 PM EDT
Regarding the 'Pirate Party' in Germany and it all being about changing
copyright law - maybe observing it from a distance as an expat makes me see it a
bit different, but this is not at all unlike the time, way back when, that the
Green Party rose to political fame in Germany. Voters were royally fed up with
the three existing parties (they are now, even more so, look at the poll ratings
of the liberal party), and most disillusioned voters did not feel strongly
enough to take more drastic action.

The Greens arose from a political protest movement, had a single political
agenda (environment), and a fairly mixed voter base (from conservative to left
wing). Voter turnout for the Greens was not so much about their core agenda but
to send the establishment a message. Having an agenda that everyone could feel
good about did not hurt.

The Pirates don't project the image of really having a political agenda. It's
not so much about copyright as rather about civil liberty in the digital age.
Whether that is enough of an agenda to survive until the next election, I really
doubt it.

Regarding the political spectrum of their member base - let's just say that
right now they look like the perfect trojan horse for right wing (i.e. neo-nazi)
agendas to be voted into parliament. I'm ashamed that this seems even possible
now. Would not have believed it might ever happen again half a year ago.

So please don't paint the Pirates and their agenda as a good PR opportunity for
Google.

-- mschmitz

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MS connection?
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 19 2012 @ 06:43 PM EDT
I can see it in my minds eye.

Oracle: We need something to counter this Groklaw stuff, any suggestions? After
all this is your agenda too, you had experience with it in that SCO thingy.
MS: We used this guy something Mueller.
Oracle: Okay, we'll try him.

;)

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