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| Authored by: feldegast on Thursday, April 19 2012 @ 09:35 AM EDT |
If Google win and Oracle do that....Then everyone moves
everything to Android, Android is made available as a web
plugin and Oracle dies?
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| Authored by: matth on Thursday, April 19 2012 @ 09:43 AM EDT |
| Does Dalvik even use the TCK or claim compatibility with Java-the-platform? [ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 19 2012 @ 09:47 AM EDT |
I thought that the primary purpose of the TCK was to ensure that independent
implementations of Java were properly compatible with each other, and that part
of the cost of the TCK was to do with setting up the legal agreements that would
permit an independent implementation to call itself Java, using all the
associated trademarks.
I always believed that, so long as you didn't say 'this is Java' you could
implement the language and as much or as little of the library you felt like.
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- No, you haven't - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 19 2012 @ 09:53 AM EDT
- No, you haven't - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 19 2012 @ 09:56 AM EDT
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 19 2012 @ 09:53 AM EDT |
How this was done before, only without TCK (only market
force of having a
customer base that could not afford to not
have support, such as security
updates, etc).
See:
How GPL NX path,
was changed to proprietary path by main
code developer (cat back in the bag, or
rather cow back in
the barn to be milked)...!
Text book example -
Done before, could be done again. And,
Oracle knows the value of a customer's
real or perceived
need for support (from the mother ship, and the income then
gained by the "lock in world" of such licensing).
Oracle could do this
with the power of the TCK, this is why
Google needs to win, to be able to keep
Harmony alive as
well.
This might be why Larry answered "I don't know" to
the
question of JAVA ownership, it's a set up, and he is playing
the innocent
country bumpkin, so he can say:
Golly gee, I never knew it was
possible that we could "OWN
JAVA" in such a way? If we own it, then we OWE a
duty to
our stockholders, to fully "gain income" from such
ownership,
otherwise, we could be liable if faced with a
SHAREHOLDER LAWSUIT - that might
happen if we don't attempt
to maximize the income from our newly discovered
JAVA
ownership position.
The game is called CHESS.
Pawns are
pawns, and all the players on the board are worth
different levels of power,
depending on location, location,
location.
Larry is not a country bumpkin.
And, if presented by this
court, with ownership and control never before
allowed or
understood (Sun's postion), then what do you think will
happen?
One wonders where the "LAW OF AGENCY" exists in this, where
harm
could not be brought to 3rd parties who were told or
convinced that they had
certain rights by actual (or even
ostensible) AGENTS of SUN where they now feel
uncomfortable,
due to the now evident fact that they might have to pay now,
when they were convinced before that they didn't have to.
They can't be, due
to the LAWS OF AGENCY harmed by the
SUN/ORACLE, Boies law firmed designed
attempt at putting
JAVA back into the barn to be fully milked, due to a simple
IP bait and switch game, as perceived!!!
It is fully evident what how SUN's
AGENTS acted, and how it
was done so that everyone was a true believer (how can
a
court, give the rules of the Laws of Agency change that
back)?
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