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Ah... to suck... a term of art... | 311 comments | Create New Account
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In the alternate...
Authored by: BitOBear on Monday, April 16 2012 @ 08:55 PM EDT
Again, as an example of things I have seen, and presuming an absence of a
detailed technical analysis. (And with no knowledge of Lindholm nor any intent
to besmerch.)

I have seen the following:

Analyst given several weeks to look for and study alternatives. Analyst
otherwise not given any time budget within those weeks to skip his real work to
actually do the analysis. Analyst comes in the Monday It's Due™ having managed
to get about 2 hours total time into the analysis and, hung over and panicked,
just makes the recommendation he knows will fly best that he knew was safe to
make on day one.

In an IBM shop, nobody has ever been fired for recommending IBM.

In a Cisco shop, nobody has ever been fired for recommending Cisco.

Google is a Java shop...

And if The Question™ was asked with a bias, it may have been like a directed
verdict, or the next best thing. If the manager said to Lindholm "see if
there is any conceivable reason why it would be better not to use Java if the
license is reasonable..." and so on, he may well have known that
-politically- there was only one reason, one possible outcome that wouldn't be
poorly received by someone important to his position, and so all other options
"suck" by fiat.

Don't pretend no person has ever been in -that- situation... 8-)

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Ah... to suck... a term of art...
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, April 17 2012 @ 01:01 AM EDT
'They suck' == 'not how I would have done it'

Tufty

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    Ah... to suck... a term of art...
    Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, April 17 2012 @ 01:25 AM EDT

    Apple seems to sell quite a lot of iPhones and iPads without using Java. A lot of Android apps are written using C++. If you look at the phone app marketplace as a whole for all mobile phones taken together, it would be very interesting to see just what proportion of app revenue comes from Java/Dalvik apps. I suspect it isn't as significant a Oracle would like people to believe.

    Given the rate of turnover in the app market (a lot of apps have a very short shelf life), phasing out the Java language over a few years should be quite feasible. A Java to "new language" source code converter would probably help the process along quite nicely.

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