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IBM Lawyer Hired Away by Microsoft
Sunday, June 15 2003 @ 04:01 AM EDT

IBM Lawyer Hired Away by Microsoft
and a Second Analyst Unconvinced
by SCO "Proof"


I saw this little notice on Law.com:

"After handling IBM's intellectual property matters for nearly 30 years, Marshall Phelps Jr. has jumped to Microsoft Corp., where he will oversee more than 11,000 trademarks and 3,000 U.S. patents as vice president and deputy general counsel for IP."

He was VP for IP and licensing at IBM. Hmm. How convenient. Do you suppose he knows anything that might be of value to anybody rooting for SCO?

Another interesting tidbit: An analyst in Germany who looked at SCO's proof code and is talking, saying that their lawyer forgot to ask him to sign an NDA, says, I think (my high school German is a lot rusty), that he can't be sure if there is any substance to SCO's claim.

One reason is there's no way to verify if the UNIX code is actually System V, because the code was pulled out of any traceable record, and all dates, even on the comments, had been removed. Also, it appears to him that while there were similarities in functionality, there were differences in implementation for some of it.. One section seems to be identical, but who knows which came first, the chicken or the egg? He also noted some differences. My German isn't up to this task, so take a look yourself at the German version here. Google's English translation is here. And here is how Sherlock translates it, with the usual somewhat comical results:

"I had today the possibility of looking at me the loading code paragraph. By a mistake on the part of the representing law office my colleague and I, in contrast to the 7 other assigned one, did not have to sign which received today insight, a discretion assertion. Completely contrary to the examiners of the company Microsoft, who must protect silence obviously even opposite their own superiors, and only the internal audit department in relation to report to refund may. Now, to the code: Under notarial supervision 46 pages A in each case one half code from Linux (to a large extent printed out Posts directly from the Linux Kernel mailing list) and the other half of listings of SCO were submitted. Whether it actually concerns thereby SysV sources, is like that not to be reconstructed, since they tore from the connection. Interesting is also, which all dates were removed from both, even from the comments. The coming AR are actually in parts identically, even some jokes are alike on both pages. Remarkable is however, which is nevertheless quite different to to most corresponding places the source code which is before coming arene. The fundamental structure of the complained of functions is similarly, the concrete implementation however nevertheless quite differently. Variable ones and function names are different, Schlefien are structured differently, conditions run over chain queries or bit pattern. All in all only one can be surely said: The functions supplied by the respective code paragraph are often alike, which was to be expected in addition, from the front in here. In the concrete implementation there are not however so many differences that a proof of the same origin will become difficult, although reliably not possibly. Crack point is however a function of the scheduler, which is on a length of scarcely 60 lines actually identical up to small differences. Here there is also a whole number of corresponding comments. Comparable similarity indicates only one routine of the store management, with which there are comments however only in the Linux version at all. Whether alone from these two agreements however a judicious proof can be created, only one lawyer with Sichrheit can estimate. The vague similarities in other sections hold I for, since for both the same standards to reason were finally situated, certain an agreement thus to expect insufficiently are. Which concerns however the same comments for however different source areas, I can make myself on it no Reim. That would have to be again examined in any case more exactly, in particular also with available dates. Because with it a violation of the clock jack right could only be proven at all. Which concerns the discussion around from SCO/Caldera themselves under the GPL sold section of Linux, then must be said, which had to decide so far still no court on the right security of the GPL. If this should be determined however, what is not safe, then SCO can consult only the sections from Linux to the comparison, which did not publish it and in their development or advancement it was not involved. Also this regard I as a difficulty in the coming procedure. Since however the original, ungepatchten Linux sources, but only modifications, which inserted most diverse Distributoren, were not attacked in any case is to be still clarified whether these evtl. Right ones at the deplored paragraph have, either directly or indirectly e.g. by firm unions, transfers, "all inclusive" Deals u.ae. The chances on a procedure actually which can be opened are however not particularly high, since one agreed so far in most comparable cases out of court. This is however only my personally estimate, obligatory is in any case only the decision both pages of the representing lawyers or then possibly the responsible court."

If anyone can provide a better translation, please do.



PS June 15, 2003 This story is now on Slashdot, where some are opining that this may not be true, that they are unable to find any such individual on Google. A better translation was offered and it was summarized by one poster like this:

Summary (Score:5, Insightful)
by utahjazz (177190) on Sunday June 15, @07:37PM ( #6207400 )

-Code was 46 pairs of printouts, no dates associated. -2 sections of code looked very similar -The rest was mostly copied comments, including jokes that were copied. -Observer found it curious that the source code near the copied comments was completely different."

P.P.S. I doublechecked. I was worried that being unable to find the good doctor on Google might mean there was no such person, that this was a hoax. If so, I would want to find out and post what I found, because my goal on this blog is accuracy. I too was unable to find him on Google. Google isn't the only search engine on the planet, however, and if you wish to find this guy on a search engine, try Vivisimo. It will bring you not only to the original link but also to a link to Golem.de Network News, a German Linux site here. Golem's forum is here. Once you are there, do a search (suche) and it takes you here. The search results are here. Someone here asked him to clarify and here is how Sherlock translates, with my editorial comments in brackets:

Q: How could you attain insight? [I assume he means how did you get to see the code?]

"Since our enterprise develops also products on Linux base, inspection for two coworkers was agreed upon. The regulation concerning the limitations, Microsoft representatives are exposed to which, was acknowledged in the meantime by several places, even if honestly said the insight into the Sinnhaftigkeit of this decision is missing to me. Which concerns the missing discretion assertion, then I assume an error on the part of the representing kanzlei, because also several coworkers the Siemens Nixdorf received insight without restrictions." [He seems to be saying again that he didn't have to sign the restrictive NDA through an oversight and he says that several other coworkers at Siemens Nixdorf also gained access to the code. Depending on the accuracy of this translation, it could indicate that he works for Siemens Nixdorf.]

Q: "it does not know whether I > so without closer inspection; to believe can. Would be however marvelous, if is correct. Is for me as one those, which one provisional order against SCO obtain could already quite interesting. Take up nevertheless simply times contact, Nehmen Sie doch einfach mal Kontakt auf," [I haven't a clue here, except he is either saying he is part of the legal action against SCO or he would like the Dr. to help, but he can't believe what the Dr. wrote earlier, much as he would like to, without more evidence.]

A: "I am not a lawyer, take you my predicates thus please not as starting point for legal steps. Also I would like to contain for the time being once of further expressions, since at least in-plant in the meantime appropriate statements on mean colleagues and me were issued, and I no difficulties to cause would like. In all other respects my colleague of other opinion than is I and keeps the reasons for not, stated on the part of SCO, durable. But that can clarify probably only one court finally." [I am again not sure, so maybe someone who speaks German can do a better translation. He seems to be saying that he doesn't want to be involved in any court proceeding and wants to say no more for now. The rest is unclear.]

Someone has posted questions for him to answer in English, and one question is the right one:

"Also, could you clarify how Microsoft representatives were involved in your viewing of the disputed SCO/Linux code?"

He has not yet answered that question. If you go here, you can scroll down the page, looking at the Autor (author) column and you'll find the name three times. I told you, research is what paralegals do. If you recall, it was a SCO paralegal who found the copyright amendment to the Novell-SCO deal, not Boies or the inhouse attorney. Paralegals find things other people can't. I'll keep my eye on this doctor. If anyone reading the blog wants to follow up, I'd think a simple phone call to the company he mentions would be fruitful, particularly if you speak German. Either you'll find the good doctor there, or you'll find out if anyone else there saw the code, as he says, or you'll find out he isn't who and what he is saying on this forum. Let's see, if it's midnight here, what time is it in Germany? Where'd I put my Zaurus?

  


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IBM Lawyer Hired Away by Microsoft
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, April 23 2004 @ 03:36 PM EDT
q: How did you get insight (of the code)?
a: Caused by the fact that our company is developing products based on Linux,
insight for 2 workers was agreed on. The rules concerning the limitations for
Microsoft workers has been verified by different sources. I just don't
understand the sense in this rules. I guess the omission of the rules in my case
is due to a mistake by the lawyers involved. Some workers of Siemens Nixdorf
received insight without limitations too. (Addition by translator: In contrast
to the previous translation I would guess that the speaker is not employed by
Siemens Nixdorf. This means there are 2 workers by an unknown company and at
least 2 Siemens Nixdorf workers that are not limited in speech by SCO.)

q: I don't know if I can trust this unchecked. Would be wonderful, if this is
true. This is interesting for somebody who is one of the people to gain a
preliminary injunction against SCO. Please, contact me. (Addition by translator:
I guess a preliminary injunction is the vehicle of law that has
been used here. It should be close enough in its results and meanings, although
our law systems are different. The last sentence is translated according its
meaning. In German it is an idiomatic expression that has exactly the meaning I
used.)
a: IANAL, don't take my words as facts in a lawsuit. At the same time I will not
say anymore, because I and my colleague have been ordered to stop it (by our
company) and I don't want to cause trouble. I would like to add that my
colleague is holding a different opinion and that he believes that the reasons
given by SCO will not hold up. This can only be decided by court. (Addition by
translator: This source will be dried up unless a court order will get it to run
again. The colleague seems to think SCO's claims will not work out.)

Michael

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