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Allen v. World - Defendants Seek Summary Judgment on Issue of Indefiniteness ~ mw |
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Saturday, July 14 2012 @ 03:00 PM EDT
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As we noted in our story (Allen v World - Stay Lifted - Expect A Rough Ride) a few weeks ago, the Court granted Interval's motion to lift the stay in this case. At the time the Court asked the parties to file a joint status report suggesting a timeline for the case. The parties have now filed that joint status report. (270 [PDF; Text]) The schedule calls for the Markman hearing to occur in November of this year with the trial to commence in October 2013.
One dispute remains with the schedule. The defendants wish to introduce a motion in August for summary judgment on the grounds of indefiniteness with respect to most of the claims of the '652 and '314 patents (two of the four asserted patents). The defendants would like this motion to be heard and ruled on before claim construction briefs are due. It is the defendants' contention that this will make the claims construction process more efficient. The language which the defendants contend is indefinite is:
... displaing images "in an unobtrusive manner" and in a way that "does not distract a user."
The terms "unobtrusive" and "does not distract a user," defendants contend, are never defined in the specification. Defendants contend these terms are subjective.
For its part Interval contends the defendants: (1) are merely trying to increase their page limit for their claim construction brief; (2) never requested this early deadline for the motion before; and (3) previously said the issue of indefiniteness goes hand-in-hand with claims construction. Interval suggests that, if the defendants really want an early hearing, the Court should simply have all claim construction briefs due at the earlier date (requested by defendants for the motion for summary judgment).
Best guess is that Interval will likely prevail on this issue and the issue of indefiniteness will be taken up as a part of claims construction.
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Docket
07/10/2012 - 270 -
JOINT STATUS REPORT signed by all parties Filed by Defendants Google
Inc, Apple Inc, Yahoo! Inc, AOL Inc, Plaintiffs Interval Licensing
LLC, Interval Licensing LLC, Interval Licensing LLC, Interval
Licensing LLC.(Nelson, Justin) (Entered: 07/10/2012)
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Documents
270
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
WESTERN DISTRICT OF WASHINGTON
AT SEATTLE
INTERVAL LICENSING LLC,
Plaintiff,
v.
AOL, Inc.,
APPLE, INC.,
GOOGLE, INC., and
YAHOO! INC.,
Defendants.
Case No. 2:10-cv-01385-MJP
JOINT STATUS REPORT
ORAL ARGUMENT REQUESTED
Lead Case No. 2:10-cv-01385-MJP
Pursuant to this Court’s June 25, 2012, Order Granting Motion to Lift Stay (Dkt. No.
#269), the parties submit the following supplemental Joint Status Report.
I. PROPOSED SCHEDULE
A. Court’s Revised Scheduling Order
Except as discussed below, the parties agree that the parameters set in the Court’s Revised
Scheduling Order (Dkt. # 248) should remain in place with respect to the ‘652 and ‘314 Patents
track.
B. Joint Proposed Schedule
The parties submit the following proposed schedule for this case. With the exception of
the one issue that is discussed below, the parties have reached agreement on a proposed schedule
for this case. The deadlines in the parties’ proposed schedule are based in large part on the
deadlines in the Court’s Revised Scheduling Order (Dkt. No. 248).1
Event | Date |
Interval to provide defendants with list of open discovery
issues |
7/20/2012 |
Serve supplemental preliminary infringement contentions on
any new claims added during reexamination and new accused
products |
7/20/2012 |
Source code for 652/314 products already accused made
available for review and meet and confer to discuss making
source code available for newly identified 652/314 products |
8/1/2012 |
Defendants respond by this date to the items on Interval’s list
of open discovery issues, with any meet and confers soon after |
8/4/2012 |
Serve supplemental preliminary non-infringement contentions | 8/17/2012 |
Meet and confer as to whether supplemental claim
construction expert reports are necessary |
8/24/2012 |
Any New Terms Selected for Claim Construction | 8/24/2012 |
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1 Defendants reserve the right to object to Interval’s supplementation of its infringement
contentions with respect to any claims that were not newly added during reexamination or with
respect to any products that are not new products. Defendants also reserve the right to
supplement Defendants’ invalidity contentions. Interval likewise reserves the right to object to
any supplemental invalidity contentions should Defendants seek a supplementation.
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Event | Date |
Preliminary Claim Chart | 8/31/2012 |
Joint Claim Chart and Prehearing Statement | 9/14/2012 |
Serve Supplemental Claim Construction Expert Report on any
new issues (if necessary) | 9/21/2012 |
Opening Briefs on Claim Construction | 10/5/2012 |
Response Briefs on Claim Construction | 10/26/2012 |
Markman Hearing | 11/9/2012 |
Close of Fact Discovery | 3/1/2013 |
Opening Expert Reports on All Issues | 3/29/2013 |
Rebuttal Expert Reports Due | 4/26/2013 |
Joint Status Report to Address Trial Issues | 5/3/2013 |
Close of Expert Discovery | 5/17/2013 |
Dispositive Motion Deadline | 6/7/2013 |
Settlement Conference per Local Rule CR 39.1(c)(2) held no
later than | 7/19/2013 |
Mediation per Local Rule CR 39.1(c)(3) held no later than | 8/16/2013 |
All Motions in Limine must be filed by and noted on the
motion calendar no later than the second Friday thereafter | 8/23/2013 |
Agreed Pretrial Order due | 9/6/2013 |
Trial Briefs, Proposed Voir Dire Questions, Proposed Jury
Instructions, and Trial Exhibits due | 9/20/2013 |
Objections to demonstratives, trial exhibits, depositions
designations. | 10/4/2013 |
Pretrial Conference | 10/8/2013 |
Trial Date | 10/14/2013 |
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C. Remaining Disputes Concerning The Schedule
1. Motion for Summary Judgment on Indefiniteness
Defendants’ Position:
A vast majority of the claims of the ‘652 and ‘314 Patents include a claim limitation that
the Defendants contend is indefinite under 35 U.S.C. § 112, paragraph 1.2 Consistent with the
Court’s desire to move this case forward, pursuant to the Court’s Standing Order (Dkt. No. 26)
Defendants seek leave to file a single joint motion for summary judgment in August 2012 to bring
this discrete issue before the Court immediately after the stay has been lifted. Indefiniteness is a
question of law that can be decided before claim construction. See Datamize, LLC v. Plumtree
Software, Inc., 2004 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 28382, 7-8 (N.D. Cal. July 9, 2004) (granting motion for
summary judgment on indefiniteness before the scheduled claim construction hearing), aff’d 417
F.3d 1342 (Fed. Cir. 2005).
Defendants seek to bring this motion before claim construction because resolution of this
question that is common to so many claims may substantially narrow the claim construction
disputes that the Court would be asked to address. Interval’s response that this dispute should be
handled as part of claim construction or by accelerating the whole schedule is inefficient because
it will force the Court to receive briefing and address claim constructions for terms that may no
longer be at issue if the indefiniteness issue is decided in Defendants’ favor. Defendants’
proposal on the other hand allows the parties to proceed with the claim construction process, but
gives the Court the opportunity to address this single, discrete issue early and thereby potentially
reduce the work for both the Court and the parties. Defendants provide a brief explanation of the
issue below.
The claim language at issue refers to displaying images “in an unobtrusive manner” and in
a way that “does not distract a user.” What exactly is unobtrusive or does not distract a user is
never defined in the specification. Defendants assert both terms are inherently subjective because
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2 The limitation at issue is found in each and every claim of the '314 patent and all but 4 of
the currently-asserted claims of the '652 patent.
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whether something is unobtrusive or distracts a user (from her primary interaction) depends upon
a particular user’s subjective views, what the user was engaged in and how easily a particular user
might be distracted. Under Federal Circuit precedent, claims containing inherently subjective
language are indefinite under 35 U.S.C. § 112, ¶ 2. For example, the Federal Circuit found
similarly subjective language indefinite in Datamize LLC v. Plumtree Software, Inc., 417 F.3d at
1348-1356.
Resolution of this issue in Defendants favor will result in a substantial streamlining of this
case, including discovery, claim construction and trial, because most of the claims at issue will
have been held invalid.
Interval’s Position:
Defendants have asked to include in the proposed schedule a date of August 2, 2012 for a
motion for summary judgment on indefiniteness. Interval believes that such an early deadline is
inappropriate for at least three reasons.3 First, the Court already has rejected a similar proposal
by Defendants. Before the stay, Defendants told this Court that they planned to submit their
summary judgment briefing on indefiniteness together with their claim construction briefing, and
they requested five additional pages in their claim construction brief to address indefiniteness.
04/25/2011 Hearing Transcript at 35-36 (Dkt. #231). The Court suggested that it would reject
that request, requiring that Defendants’ briefing on indefiniteness be confined to the existing page
limitation on the Markman brief. Id. at 35 (THE COURT: “I am all for saving work. I am pretty
much against adding pages.”). Consistent with the Court’s suggestion, Defendants appeared to
agree that they would include any summary judgment issue on indefiniteness as part of their page
limits on the claim construction briefing. Id. at 36. Defendants’ new request for an early motion
on indefiniteness appears to be nothing more than a second attempt to increase the page limitation
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3 Defendants’ statement that indefiniteness is a question of law is misleading at best. “Summary
judgment on the issue of indefiniteness is inappropriate where there are issues of fact underlying
the indefiniteness determination.” See Am. Med. Sys., Inc. v. Laser Peripherals, LLC, 712 F.
Supp. 2d 885, 910 (D. Minn. 2010) (emphasis added).
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for its briefing—if Defendants cannot add pages to their claim construction brief, then they will
attempt to file two separate briefs.
Second, the Court’s pre-stay schedule did not provide for an early indefiniteness motion.
In fact, Defendants never requested an early deadline for filing of an indefiniteness motion even
though the purported basis for Defendants’ motion existed before the stay. Defendants fail to
explain why an early summary judgment motion is justified now when they were prepared to file
the motion as part of their claim construction brief before the stay.
Third, as Defendants previously told the Court, the indefiniteness issue goes hand-in-hand
with claim construction. Id. at 35. Now, however, Defendants request briefing on the
indefiniteness issue months before the claim construction briefing—despite the fact that when
Interval suggested starting claim construction briefing at the same time as Defendants suggest it
file the motion for summary judgment on indefiniteness, Defendants objected. In compromise,
Interval agreed to delay the opening claim construction briefs until October, but Defendants now
want to keep an early date for summary judgment. Such a proposal makes no sense and is unfair.
See Star Scientific, Inc. v. R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Co., 537 F.3d 1357, 1371 (Fed. Cir. 2008) (“By
finding claims indefinite only if reasonable efforts at claim construction prove futile, we accord
respect to the statutory presumption of patent validity[.]” (citation omitted) (emphasis added)). If
Defendants want the motion for summary judgment due in August, then Opening Claim
Construction briefs should be due the same date and the entire schedule (including the claim
construction hearing and the trial date) should be moved forward by two months.
Dated: July 10, 2012
Respectfully submitted,
By: /s/ Mark P. Walters
Mark P. Walters, WSBA No. 30819
FROMMER LAWRENCE & HAUG LLP
[address telephone, email]
As Whip for Defendants’ Counsel
By: /s/ Justin A. Nelson
Justin A. Nelson, WSBA No. 31864
SUSMAN GODFREY LLP
[address telephone email]
As Whip for Plaintiff’s Counsel
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CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
I hereby certify that on July 10, 2012, I electronically filed the foregoing with the Clerk of
the Court using the CM/ECF system which will send notification of such filing to the following
counsel of record:
Attorneys for AOL, Inc.
Cortney Alexander
Robert Burns
Elliot Cook
Gerald Ivey
Molly Terwilliger
Attorneys for Apple, Inc.
David Almeling
Brian Berliner
George Riley
Jeremy Roller
Scott Wilsdon
Neil Yang
Xin-Yi Zhou
Attorneys for Google, Inc.
Aaron Chase
Dimitrios Drivas
John Handy
Warren Heit
Scott Johnson
Shannon Jost
Kevin McGann
Wendi Schepler
Theresa Wang
Attorneys for Yahoo! Inc.
Francis Ho
Richard S.J. Hung
Michael Jacobs
Matthew Kreeger
Dario Machleidt
Eric Ow
Mark Walters
Gregory Wesner
By: /s/ Jami Grounds
Jami Grounds
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Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, July 14 2012 @ 04:29 PM EDT |
This is what was said earlier, from the relevant parts of pages 34-36 in the
transcripts of the April 25, 2011
hearing:MR. NELSON: Your Honor, there is one actually
minor
issue that I believe the parties are in agreement
on. The defendants have asked
plaintiff to agree on a
briefing schedule on a summary judgment motion
of
indefiniteness on a couple of the claims terms. That
would add about five
pages to each side's respective briefing for the Markman briefing. And then
defendants
would get two pages each on each of the two issues, and a
reply. We
have no objection to that order. I think we
are in the process of finalizing an
agreed motion on that
point. But if the court would entertain something
orally,
we would be happy to do it orally. Or if the court would
like to see it
by paper, it will be filed within the next
couple of days, if not
before.
THE COURT: Essentially the bottom line is, you
want to add more
pages?
MR. KREEGER: The idea is, your Honor, often the
courts -- I don't
know if your Honor -- In the course of
claim construction you come to the view
that one of the
terms is "indefinite." The question is: What do you do
with
that? Some courts then invite a second round of
summary judgment
briefing.
THE COURT: I am not likely to do that.
MR. KREEGER:
Our proposal was to give the court a
summary judgment motion, along with the
claim construction
briefing. So if you agree with us on this, it has
the
potential to save work. If you find these terms
indefinite, then the whole
patents go away. That was the
rationale for raising it, along with claim
construction.
THE COURT: I am all for saving work. I am pretty
much
against adding pages.
MR. KREEGER: Should we not submit the
motion?
THE COURT: You would have to convince me that you
need extra
pages for this particular issue. To be
perfectly honest, if all eleven parties
are going to write
to me, think of the thousands of pages you can come
up
with.
MR. KREEGER: Your Honor, we might be able to work
out an
arrangement where this doesn't have pages, if
that's the court's concern,
present it without increasing
the pages.
THE COURT: That would be
nice.
MR. KREEGER: We will go back to that.
Anything
else? That's when the defendants supposedly said and didn't
say the stuff Interval is talking about. I wouldn't interpret it that way. For
example, offering something in the next couple of days count as an early
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Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, July 14 2012 @ 04:49 PM EDT |
Defendants offer that the patents are invalid under 35 U.S.C. § 112:1
Interval does not have to answer that here, but it scrabbles for
procedural points as to why indefiniteness should not be introduced,
even citing a case which will require them to find some facts
to support their non-indefiniteness rebuttal.
Have they smelled the wind changing?
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Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, July 14 2012 @ 04:50 PM EDT |
... displaying images "in an unobtrusive manner" and in a way that
"does not distract a user."
Well if something pops up in front of
me that I didn't ask for, that's both obtrusive and distracting, so the patent
covers something that's impossible to do. Which makes the patent(s) invalid.
If
I asked for 'it', then it's not obtrusive or distracting.
(Unless 'it' pops up
behind something else and then what's the point if you can't see it?)
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Authored by: The Cornishman on Saturday, July 14 2012 @ 05:22 PM EDT |
Please indicate the nature of the correction in the title of
your post, e.g. Errer -> Error
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Authored by: The Cornishman on Saturday, July 14 2012 @ 05:24 PM EDT |
For matters which do not involve being sued by Interval
LLC... if you can think of any
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Authored by: The Cornishman on Saturday, July 14 2012 @ 05:27 PM EDT |
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There is a guide to making clickable links, just below the
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