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Oracle v. Google - Day 6 Filings ~mw
Tuesday, April 24 2012 @ 09:00 AM EDT

With a good deal of activity in Court, there were few filings yesterday. Google updated its current witness list by dropping Bob Lee and adding Jonathan Schwartz. (965 [PDF]) This is simply a change in the order in which Google is likely to call witnesses and evidences an interest on Google's part to get Schwartz on the stand sooner rather than later.

In the only other material filing of the day Google filed a motion with the tongue-twisting title of "MOTION FOR ADMINISTRATIVE RELIEF TO EXTEND DEADLINE FOR FILING UNDER SEAL AND GRANT GOOGLE LEAVE TO FILE A REVISED DECLARATION IN SUPPORT OF ORACLE’S MOTION TO SEAL." (966 [PDF]) The motion itself is not all that interesting. It simply seeks to include some additional Google financial information among that information filed by Oracle under seal with the consent of the Court.


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04/23/2012 - 964 - ORDER GRANTING STIPULATED PAGE LENGTH by Hon. William Alsup granting 954 Stipulation.(whalc1, COURT STAFF) (Filed on 4/23/2012) (Entered: 04/23/2012)

04/23/2012 - 965 - Witness List by Google Inc. Google Inc.'s Rolling List of Next Ten Witnesses. (Van Nest, Robert) (Filed on 4/23/2012) (Entered: 04/23/2012)

04/23/2012 - 966 - MOTION for Extension of Time to File Motion for Administrative Relief to Extend Deadline for Filing Under Seal and Grant Google Leave to File a Revised Declaration in Support of Oracle's Motion to Seal filed by Google Inc.. (Attachments: # 1 Stipulation and Proposed Order)(Van Nest, Robert) (Filed on 4/23/2012) (Entered: 04/23/2012)


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Thank you.
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, April 24 2012 @ 09:02 AM EDT
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Corrections Thread
Authored by: hardmath on Tuesday, April 24 2012 @ 09:13 AM EDT
Subject lein -> Subject line

Thank yuo -> Thank you


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News Picks
Authored by: hardmath on Tuesday, April 24 2012 @ 09:15 AM EDT
Please include a link to the underlying news article when starting a new
comments subthread here.


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Off-Topic Topics
Authored by: hardmath on Tuesday, April 24 2012 @ 09:17 AM EDT
Don't do what hardmath tells you! Stay off-topic!


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How APIs evolve, another java.nio example
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, April 24 2012 @ 09:19 AM EDT
This is an interesting page given that apparently Mark Reinhold is coming back
to discuss APIs some more.

http://www.eecs.harvard.edu/~mdw/proj/java-nbio/

"NBIO is a library that implements nonblocking I/O facilities for Java.
Surprisingly, the standard JDK libraries (as of JDK 1.3) do not provide
nonblocking I/O. This means that in order to implement applications (such as web
servers and other Internet services) that support many concurrent I/O streams, a
large number of threads must be used. However, the overhead of threading (in
Java, as well as more generally) limits the performance of such an
implementation."

"The recently-announced JDK 1.4 beta includes the package java.nio which,
among other things, provides nonblocking I/O primitives for Java. As it turns
out I am on the expert group for the Sun Java Specification Request for this
package (see this link for more details). More details on this new API can be
found at this URL; as you can see, java.nio has been influenced somewhat by the
NBIO APIs."

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Comes Transcripts
Authored by: hardmath on Tuesday, April 24 2012 @ 09:19 AM EDT
If you got 'em, post 'em. Preferably HTML format in Plain Old Text mode for
ease of cut-and-paste.


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Oracle v. Google - Day 6 Filings
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, April 24 2012 @ 10:58 AM EDT
They're calling Schwartz to the stand now? I say that's a
great call at this point. No doubt he will be an excellent
witness for Google. With many others coming, that will back up
the information gotten from him. Oracle's chances of finding
the Golden Google Egg hidden in their Sun purchase just
dropped to zero.

Leaving their plan to justify the over $7 Billion purchase as
dried up as their recently lost US Gov Purchasing Contracts.
That in total were worth around $ 400,000,000 a year in
Revenue. Proving The Oracle just as wrong attempting to steal
from Google as stealing from us tax payers to stuff their
pockets by overcharging us!

Leaving them ripe... for another lawsuit from their own
shareholders. Who didn't like them losing those government
contracts (lawsuit) and neither are they too happy about the
Oracle purchase that led to this failed criminal plan!

And how ironic is it that such a Big Fat Bunch of Corporate
Court Proven Thieves... is here calling Google a thief (IBM vs
SCO) simply for using the Free to Use Java programming
language, to make what neither Sun nor Oracle could do and
make Ad money off it legally to boot! Oracle? For you.... it's
all downhill from here! ^_^

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  • Not quite - Authored by: s65_sean on Tuesday, April 24 2012 @ 11:09 AM EDT
  • TIme - Authored by: rsteinmetz70112 on Tuesday, April 24 2012 @ 11:27 AM EDT
    • TIme - Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, April 24 2012 @ 11:54 AM EDT
      • TIme - Authored by: rsteinmetz70112 on Tuesday, April 24 2012 @ 05:25 PM EDT
        • TIme - Authored by: Wol on Wednesday, April 25 2012 @ 04:01 PM EDT
Oracle v. Google - Tweets from the court room
Authored by: feldegast on Tuesday, April 24 2012 @ 11:37 AM EDT
Tweets that might be interesting

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A thought occurs ...
Authored by: cricketjeff on Tuesday, April 24 2012 @ 11:44 AM EDT
If the APIs aren't an essential part of the language how can only including some
of them be a fork?

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An other view
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, April 24 2012 @ 02:30 PM EDT
Lets say i going to write a Stage play about a trail.
First i am going to tell how the stages should look; i will have:
trail.lawyerOffice
trail.CourtBuilding
trail.CourtBuilding.Room
etc.

Next i will tell what attributes are used in the stages:
trail.CourtBuilding.Room.Judge
trail.CourtBuilding.Room.lawyer
trail.CourtBuilding.Room.witness
etc

Next i will setup the chapters so i have sequence of actions:
trail.indictment
trail.discovery
trail.main
etc

Now i hardly started my Stage play and did tell any story.
But if i look at what i have; It suddenly looks like API to a trail.

Did i do a expert job like John Mitchell testified : "It's a creative
process. Many decisions go to API design. Done by people called "computer
architects"".
Or am i just describing a environment?
For me it's a hard job to make the trail environment complete, but for the
Judge, the lawyers and you folks it easy.
It is build on experience from the real world and if we missed something we just
go back and add some more entities.

The same goes for a programmer like Bob Lee he can draw on experience form all
the classes and libraries he has seen, studied and implemented. For a programmer
they are facts of live and a work in progress starting for the first C libs.

But if Oracle get it way they will get copyright on it.
And so I will get it on my Trail API and now everybody will need a license
when making a Stage play, a Movie .. its my API.
Its free for the speed ticked office but for a divorce trail its pay time.

Now some folks will try to avoid my license requirement and
will use other names.
they can't call it a trail any more cos its my namespace now.
Renaming the Judge to "The wise man",
the layman to Pinocchio
the witness to "Mr Eye Ball"

The Oracle Pinocchio will say it is not the same.
followed by the wise man: objection Sustained. He's not a Programmer.

Can you imagine the confusion at the next trail?
just my view
/Arthur




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