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UnXis, the entity that just bought SCO's software assets, has a website up now, at unxisco.com, where its corporate page tells us what they say they will be doing. This is part of what they now are claiming:
UnXis has a proven “can-do” track record of over 30 years based on the heritage of The Santa Cruz Operation.
Considering that UnXis was just formed for this deal, I wonder at the grandiosity. It has no track record yet at all. Then again, that is for sure the SCO heritage. Remember Caldera changing its name to SCO Group and then saying it had been in business since the 1979, because Santa Cruz Operation started in that year? Well, here we go again.
But what will the next moves be? What's the plan?
On the Corporate Overview page, here's what they tell us the plan is:
UnXis is aggressively building its market share by focusing on four customer groups. One, Unxis is engaging large Fortune 500 accounts where it has existing relationships and contacts, mainly targeting in-house development projects of custom built applications where it is key to have the appropriate development tools and compilers (Java). Two, UnXis is recruiting new Value Added Resellers which are supplying turn-key solutions into specific market segments such as retail, pharmaceutical, etc. and who are looking for an affordable Windows and Linux alternative for development and deployment of their solutions. Three, UnXis is targeting former end users and resellers lost to Windows and / or Linux over the past 10 years. Four, UnXis is leveraging contacts in the emerging markets by offering strategic alliances to the most important local market players. So that's the announced plan.
Wait. What? Targeting end users? Uh oh. That has a creepy sound,
considering the heritage of SCO, if you know what I mean.
The UnXis press release they just put out claiming that they owned the UNIX and UnixWare trademarks
I told you about is now published on AME Info, which describes itself as "The ultimate Middle East business resource".
[ Update: Actually, now it's all over the Internet. Go to Google, and then search for:
UnXis, Inc. announced today that the purchase of The SCO Group, Inc. operating assets and intellectual property rights has been successfully completed with the transfer of the entire Unix operating systems and software solutions and employees of The SCO Group. UnXis now owns all intellectual property rights and assets related to SCO clearing the way for financial growth and pioneering technical improvements, under its new leadership. The claim is everywhere.]
A reader asked the Open Group about this claim, and here's the reply he received, which he gave me permission to share with you:
Thank you very much for your email. The UNIX trademark is currently licensed
by The Open Group to several companies for use with UNIX systems, certified
by The Open Group as being fully conformant to one or more Product
Standards. Under a Trademark Licensing Agreement with The Open Group, SCO
is licensed to use UNIX and UnixWare which are registered trademarks of The
Open Group in the U.S. and other countries, a fact acknowledged by SCO on
its website.
The acquisition of SCO's operating assets and transfer of its operating
systems and software solutions business to UnXis will mean that an
assignment and transfer of the TMLA from SCO to UnXis will be required for
such rights to pass. We anticipate that this transfer will be successfully
concluded in the very near future. In the meantime, we are requesting UnXis
to clarify and correct its press release that misstates the matter of
trademark ownership.
Thank you once again for your interest and concern. Please rest assured that
the Open Group shall continue to protect UNIX, UNIXWARE and its other
registered trademarks with our usual vigor.
Best wishes from The Open Group,
Meryl
*Meryl Schlachterman*
*The Open Group*
Getting that deja vu feeling? I sure am.
UnXisco.com. Hmm. UnXisco seem awkward. Maybe they should reverse the names, and then they could call themselves ScUnX.
Update 2: Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols has done an interview with UnXis CEO, Richard Bolandz: Specifically, UnXis plans on updating OpenServer and UnixWare on a quarterly schedule and start introducing cloud computing, 64-bit computing, biometric authentication, VMware compatibility, IPV6 and virtualization features.
Bolandz said, “While SCO currently has two basic families of products: OpenServer and UnixWare….there are many flavors of these products being supported that have been in service for thirty years without an upgrade. Our plan is to eventually merge the capabilities of these two product groups into a 64 bit platform capable of running anything on a virtualized platform.” It's like a time machine. We get to go back to Project Monterey again. And what about litigation:
So, I asked the UnXis’ CEO, Richard A. Bolandz, what his plans were.
Bolandz replied, “UnXis has no intention to pursue any litigation related to the SCO Group assets acquired by the company. We are all about world leadership in technology not litigation.”
“We acquired the intellectual property, the extremely loyal base of marquee customers in 82 countries worldwide a world class engineering team and a rock solid product on which kernel all new systems will be built. There is no place for litigation in our vision or plan,” Bolandz continued. Uh huh. I would just remind everyone that the last time unXis tried to buy SCO's assets in 2009, litigation was very much part of the plan. And while they might not have a plan to sue anyone with the assets they have obtained from SCO, what about in partnership with Novell, after Novell is sold off too, using Novell's IP? You think?
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| Authored by: Aladdin Sane on Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 02:48 AM EDT |
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| Authored by: Aladdin Sane on Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 02:53 AM EDT |
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| Authored by: Aladdin Sane on Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 02:54 AM EDT |
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| Authored by: Aladdin Sane on Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 02:57 AM EDT |
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| Authored by: bugstomper on Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 03:33 AM EDT |
"targeting in-house development projects of custom built applications where
it is key to have the appropriate development tools and compilers (Java)"
Finally I have a place to get Java compilers! I have been struggling translating
my Java code by hand line by line into Java VM byte code to deliver the
applications I write, but now all I have to do is buy some UnXiSCO UnixWare (TM)
operating systems that come with Java (TM) compilers!
"looking for an affordable Windows and Linux alternative for development
and deployment of their solutions"
Yes, finally an alternative to Linux that is Affordable! No more wasting my
money having to pay the exorbitant $0 license fee for every copy of CentOS and
Debian I deploy on the VMs here at work just so I can run those Java apps I have
had to handcraft because I don't have UnXiSCO Java(TM) compilers!
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| Authored by: Crocodile_Dundee on Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 03:44 AM EDT |
SCO has sold everything (including stuff it doesn't own) to a company that has
its roots out of the reach of the US courts and Novel (now owned my Microsoft)
has not objected and has thereby acquiesced their ownership.
Oh, and everything that wasn't sold has been frittered away by the various
Chapter 11 succubi.
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That's not a law suit. *THIS* is a law suit![ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: ThrPilgrim on Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 03:56 AM EDT |
Perhaps they will rename themselves to SCOUNIX. That's a name with more promise.
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| Authored by: paivakil on Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 04:01 AM EDT |
| AFAICT, the is to litigate in countries where the legal system is not as
systematic as we wish it to be.
Here is what is what is common between all the
countries mentioned in relation to UnXis.
1. English is not spoken natively.
(think of all those gaps in translating from Legalese to English; not think of
translating to English-Legalese to -Legalese).
Even those grants you posted in
"UnXis claims it got ..." post are in double negative with exceptions in
multiple negatives. It is a nightmare for me (non-English speaker in a
Non-English speaking legal system) to translate. It will be worse in other
countries where English knowledge is worse than in India.
2. The legal system,
if it exists, is NOT common law based.
Here is what the US consulate says on
the legal system in Dubai.
http://dubai
.usconsulate.gov/dubai/the_uae_court_system.html
3. Compliant political /
administration system. Make your own laws / rules and then ask to apply them.
(Think of lobbying).
4. Lack of advanced IP related knowledge base.
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thinking what opportunity these ingredients would add up to. [ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 04:02 AM EDT |
UnXis has a proven “can-do” track record of over 30 years based on
the heritage of The Santa Cruz Operation.
Can they legally say
this? I'm pretty sure from past experience that in the UK it would require at
least some continuity of top-level staff. This is to prevent a company buying
the name of a well-known brand that has gone, and using the reputation of the
name to create a false impression. A specific recent example being the venerable
Woolworths re-launch.[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: elronxenu on Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 04:06 AM EDT |
So UNXIS is SCO. Why didn't they say so earlier?
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| Authored by: Khym Chanur on Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 04:31 AM EDT |
So, since all of the software rights have been sold to a
company in an
entirely different country, what happens to the
SCO v IBM lawsuit? Does it
vanish in a puff of logic? ---
Give a man a match, and he'll be warm
for a minute, but set him on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
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| Authored by: YurtGuppy on Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 04:54 AM EDT |
I am neither impressed nor offended by the UnXis business-speak press release.
30 years of history: I assume they are talking about the development/support
organization they just bought. Having people around who did the original coding
is a worthwhile boast.
Forward speaking: that's the way that businesses formulate their "vision
statements".
I don't know them, I'm not their friend or a troll. But it seems to me we are
starting in on them kind of early. (maybe you all have information of some
nefarious plan that I know not?)
Yes, I doubt there is much of a business to be built on Unixware development and
support. But I don't mind if some sheik wants to make it his hobby. Let 'em
have a go and find that out for themselves.
Would we be ragging like this on the $8-bid guys?
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 07:08 AM EDT |
So, did Darl and his buddies move to Dubai?
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 07:10 AM EDT |
"Getting that deja vu feeling? I sure am."
I can see why you feel you may as well give up.
Thanks for all that you have done in the past.[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 10:13 AM EDT |
UnXis has a proven “can-do” track record of over 30 years based
on the heritage of The Santa Cruz Operation.
Oh oh, someone in
UnXis' PR department forgot about the "lock, stock, and barrel" claim. What
they should have said was:
UnXis has a proven "can-do" track
record record of over 135 years based on the heritage of The Santa Cruz
Operation and AT&T, from the moment Alexander Graham Bell invented the
telephone in 1875.
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| Authored by: basher20 on Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 10:16 AM EDT |
They are now positioning UNIXWare to be an alternative to Linux, rather than the
other way around. It seems to flip the issue of who thie incumbent player is
180 degrees from where the marketing was when this all started.
In short, even they are admitting that Linux is winning, if it hasn't already
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- Too Late? - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 12:11 PM EDT
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 11:00 AM EDT |
Ummmm...
www.unxisco.com...
UNXI SCO .com
Hmmmm....[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: rsi on Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 11:08 AM EDT |
| So where does the Bankruptcy case go from here??? [ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 11:19 AM EDT |
Since (this morning) learning of SCO's sale to unXis, I've been trying to learn
a little about it (unXis). unXis is reported as a Las Vegas company - yet I
cannot find any listing there. A unXis headquarters search returned nothing.
The unXis contact page lists only individuals and email addresses. Does anyone
know where unXis is located?[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 11:25 AM EDT |
| Heh, truth in advertising. [ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 11:55 AM EDT |
"Wait. What? Targeting end users? Uh oh. That has a creepy sound,
considering the heritage of SCO, if you know what I mean."
But they're also targeting *Windows* end users. So if they mean what you're
afraid they might mean, that could be *really* entertaining to watch...
MSS2[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: phands on Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 01:20 PM EDT |
Looking at this whole SCuNX nastiness and their press statements, I think the
whole thing is an attempt to reset the clock and carry on FUD against Linux.
One particular thing unXis have said at
http://www.unxis.eu/asset-sale/
is :-
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More importantly, however, this transaction provides SCO with the necessary
capital required to modernize the SCO product line, expand customer and channel
support and strengthen strategic alliances, in order meet customer and partner
need far into the future.
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Why are unXis saying *SCO* will modernize the products that are now apparently
the property of another company?
Secondly, how can those products be "modernized" in any meaningful
time scale? Well, I reckon one way will be for SCuNX to cut, paste and
obfuscate Linux code into their products, just as SCOX accused others of doing.
We could be in the interesting situation where a bunch of MIT rocket scientists
will deep dive into SCuNX code to reveal source theft......
More seriously, I think that GL should not close down until the intentions and
actions of unxis are more apparent.[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 01:50 PM EDT |
"Hai, we can haz your LINUX monees plz?"
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| Authored by: hAckz0r on Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 04:36 PM EDT |
| Sounds like they just admitted to being the same
company?
<SCO-Logic>
If SCOg (Caldera) received everything lock
stock and barrel without having purchased "everything" from Santa Cruz
Operations, then UnXis MUST have also received "everything". Besides, the code
commingled already!
</SCO-Logic>
Do you think that IBM's lawyers
and their trial judge might like to know this? Somehow I don't think the same
SCO logic works so well for them in UnXis's case.
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| Authored by: PJ on Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 06:07 PM EDT |
Well, it wouldn't be Groklaw if I didn't goof.
I erased this article by mistake, painting over
it with the next. Does anyone have the rest?
I don't even remember what I wrote.
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| Authored by: dmarker on Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 07:11 PM EDT |
Just extracted (AEST 9am Fri Apr 2011) from the AME website as
linked to in the thread topic.
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"UnXis is committed to investing
$25m over the next 18 months into product and technology developments, as
well as building upon its world-class management, sales and customer support
team. UnXis has retained all customer contracts, the UNIX and
UNIXWARE trademarks and an installed base of 32,000 customer contracts
maintained in 82 countries, including McDonald's, Siemens, Sperbank, China Post,
Thomson Reuters and the US Department of Defense."
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Anyone who
tries to claim this was a typo or a slip of the copywriter's pen is not being
honest. The issue over the claim highlighted is the false impression it
conveys about the substance of the new business.
DSM
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, April 15 2011 @ 01:20 AM EDT |
But you might be easily confused. Seriously, if I was The
Open Group, I would sue for trademark infringement based on
the name of the company alone. UnXis is close enough to UNIX
that it will confuse some customers, and that is enough
grounds for an infringement suit.
I can't believe they are getting away with any of this.[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: philc on Friday, April 15 2011 @ 10:08 AM EDT |
They are a shell of a company with few developers, a shrinking customer list,
and little money. They can't possibly come close to what they say they want to
do. They don't even have enough money to sue anyone.
So what are they up to?
BTW: an OS that has not be updated in 30 years will never be updated. Hardware
was a lot different back then.[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, April 15 2011 @ 07:55 PM EDT |
Riiiight...
That's what SCO said too... right up until they suddenly "discovered"
that someone had "stolen" their IP and dumped it in Linux. Then they
were shocked, SHOCKED, and had no recourse but to hire BSF to
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, April 17 2011 @ 01:24 AM EDT |
| So, they would be hiring developers, then, right? No? No?
I think google
says it best:
Showing results for unesco jobs. Search instead for
unxisco jobs
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, April 18 2011 @ 01:43 AM EDT |
Looking at the domain name, unxisco, i cant help but think that SCO has just
resurrected themsleves
unix isco, unix is sco, backwards is sco is unix, isnt that sco's story all
along.
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, April 20 2011 @ 10:29 PM EDT |
"We get to go back to Project Monterey again. "
Not exactly. For example, Project Monterey was about a port to Itanium. And BTW,
another example is GNU Mach/Hurd, which is so old it uses drivers from Linux
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