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SCO's Dilemma - Update: Jan. 8 Hearing Transcript
Friday, January 11 2008 @ 06:46 AM EST

Remember this cartoon, Fishing for Leverage, Ubersoft Help Desk cartoon from April of 2003? Was Christopher Wright a prophet or what?

I just noticed that it's licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 License, so let's add it to our permanent Groklaw collection, where it surely belongs. Then right after it, two screenshots from 2003 I found going through my collection, dating from the same time period, when SCO first announced SCOsource. In case anyone tries to argue that SCOsource wasn't about UNIX System V, here's some evidence that indeed it was. Remember those days?

Update: The hearing transcript [PDF] from Tuesday is available now.

A screenshot of SCO's web page on SCOsource, April 2003:

Next, a question and answer from SCO's FAQ page on SCOsource:

It occurs to me that some of you may have collections too. If you see anything that demonstrates that SCOsource was about SysV, this is the time.


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Corrections here
Authored by: Erwan on Friday, January 11 2008 @ 06:49 AM EST
If any


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News Picks Discussions here.
Authored by: Erwan on Friday, January 11 2008 @ 06:52 AM EST
Don't forget to quote the article in your comment title.


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SCO's Dilemma
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, January 11 2008 @ 06:55 AM EST
Can't see the 2 screenshots

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OT, the Off topic thread
Authored by: Erwan on Friday, January 11 2008 @ 06:58 AM EST
If you want to use HTML mode, don't forget the preview button.
Allowed HTML Tags:<p>, <b>, <i>, <u>, <strike>, <a>, <em>, <strong>, <br>, <tt>, <hr>, <li>, <ol>, <ul>, <sup>, <sub>, <blockquote>
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Remember those days?
Authored by: RPN on Friday, January 11 2008 @ 07:37 AM EST
Only to well. Even to a relative ignoramus like me their claims were ridiculous
then. Now ... beyond ridiculous and a long long time has passed with the whole
mess still unresolved. Sigh.

We really need a resolution. And some action against the key individuals
involved to discourage others from such appalling behaviour. I'm not going to
hold my breath waiting though having waited a very long time just to get this

Still I've learnt a huge amount here :)

Great cartoon too.


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SCO's Dilemma
Authored by: rusty0101 on Friday, January 11 2008 @ 08:34 AM EST
I've been a long time reader of Help Desk. (Since it was in os2-ezine) And in
the past couple of years any time there's been a 'TV' in frame, there's been a
crawl in the frame related to the SCO case at some level. Last one I saw was
"SCO says something threatening -- No one remembers who they are :: Apple
sues orchards for trademark infringement :: s"

Just looking for those crawls can take up a good afternoon....

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  • SCO's Dilemma - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, January 11 2008 @ 09:11 AM EST
A thought about the NDAs
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, January 11 2008 @ 10:03 AM EST
Once SCO is defunct, does that mean the people who signed NDAs are free to
disclose what (if any) "IP" was presented to them?

I wonder if any of them will talk. If Lyons, Enderle, DiDio, etc. were truly
deceived by SCO, wouldn't they like an opporunity to turn the tables on the
scammers? On the other hand, if they were willing participants, perhaps amnesia
is the word of the day.

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Novell's Attorney's - MoFo - Not the Sharpest Tools in the Shed
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, January 11 2008 @ 11:59 AM EST
Novell's legal firm, Morrison Foerster, cost one of their clients $1M in
attorney fees by being one minute late for a filing.

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A confession about those days
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, January 11 2008 @ 12:42 PM EST
As a fustrated former employee and shareholder of AT&T I was always
frustrated about the way (from my perspective) AT&T mishandled Unix.
When I FIRST heard about the lawsuits (and knew nothing of the real facts) I
said to my self FINALLY someone is going to protect Unix the way AT&T always
should have.
Instead I have learned that the way AT&T "mishandled" Unix is good
for the world. Look at everything that it has spawned, the BSD's, Linux, and
possibly the entire F/OSS revolution.
Had AT&T protected Unix in the conventional way it would have never
proliferated the wat it (and its clones and derivitives) have. It would be just
another minicomputer operating system that us guys in our mid forties talked
about using in our twenties.

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Choice Quote from Jan. 8 Hearing Transcript
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, January 11 2008 @ 04:17 PM EST
Here is a choice quote from the words of Hon. Judge K. Gross from the transcript of the Tuesday hearing; emphasis added.

Here we have a difficult situation because it's obvious that our debtor is undergoing some difficulty, but I think to make a judgement that the debtor's operations will not continue to improve, that there is not a reasonable likelihood of success in the litigation that is pending with Novell, which obviously the debtor is highly dependent upon, would be, I think, inappropriate for the Court to make such a judgement at this time.

  • First, I wonder on what basis does the Hon. Judge, make a statement that the debtor's operations have improved? The reduction is lease costs? The fees for professional services?

  • Second, I wonder, what will it take the Hon. Judge to alter his view regards the reasonable likelihood of success in Utah?

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More Ubersoft
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, January 14 2008 @ 10:51 AM EST
I really think this comic should also be added, simply because it's about the only thing that makes sense at this point.

This one isn't as funny, but is more educational.

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