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How To Do Comments in HTML on Groklaw
Wednesday, January 16 2008 @ 05:14 PM EST

So many have asked how to leave comments as HTML that we decided to show you. We have a new static page, A Basic HTML Tutorial, so you can reference it any time you wish to.

It's not hard. And you don't have to use everything we show you. If all you want is to learn how to leave a link, it's there. But there's more too, for those who are interested, a quick crash course which Erwan and I -- mostly Erwan -- put together for you. He taught me almost everything I know about HTML, and he makes fun of me all the time when I goof, and I still don't know half what he knows, so I asked him to build on the article I started, and he surely did.

You don't have to use any of it, by the way. Plain text is fine with me, and don't be intimidated or feel pressured to do your comments in HTML. What matters is that you contribute what you know or find. I care about that above form.

This tutorial is only if you wish to know how to do it, and I've seen enough requests that I realized we should make it available. We also explain what works on Groklaw and what doesn't, for those who already know HTML but bump into our quirks. Enjoy.


  


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CORRECTIONS - put them in the title
Authored by: Briareus on Wednesday, January 16 2008 @ 05:21 PM EST
thanks.

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scary times are never dull

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Error on the link?
Authored by: jto on Wednesday, January 16 2008 @ 05:22 PM EST

OK, I tried to go to the linked page and get:

Access Denied
Access to this page is denied. Either the page has been moved/removed or you do not have sufficient permissions.

I am logged on to my Groklaw id.

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Regards, Jim Elliott

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OFFTOPIC
Authored by: Briareus on Wednesday, January 16 2008 @ 05:22 PM EST
For your offtopic needs.

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scary times are never dull

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NEWSPICKS - put the story you are referencing in the title, please.
Authored by: Briareus on Wednesday, January 16 2008 @ 05:24 PM EST
thanks.

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scary times are never dull

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How To Do Comments in HTML on Groklaw
Authored by: Toon Moene on Wednesday, January 16 2008 @ 05:58 PM EST

Hmmm, let's try this:

INTEGER*8 I, NSIZE PARAMETER (NSIZE = 33 000 000_8) DIMENSION A(3*NSIZE), A1(NSIZE), A2(NSIZE), A3(NSIZE) EQUIVALENCE (A( 1), A1(1)) EQUIVALENCE (A( NSIZE+1), A2(1)) EQUIVALENCE (A(2*NSIZE+1), A3(1)) DO I = 1, NSIZE A1(I) = 0.0 A2(I) = 0.0 A3(I) = 0.0 ENDDO DO I = 1, 3*NSIZE A(I) = I ENDDO DO I = 1, NSIZE IF (A1(I) .NE. A( I)) CALL ABORT IF (A2(I) .NE. A( NSIZE+I)) CALL ABORT IF (A3(I) .NE. A(2*NSIZE+I)) CALL ABORT ENDDO DO I = 1, NSIZE A1(I) = 0.0 A2(I) = 0.0 A3(I) = 0.0 ENDDO CALL SUB(A, 3*NSIZE) DO I = 1, NSIZE IF (A1(I) .NE. A( I)) CALL ABORT IF (A2(I) .NE. A( NSIZE+I)) CALL ABORT IF (A3(I) .NE. A(2*NSIZE+I)) CALL ABORT ENDDO END SUBROUTINE SUB(A, N) INTEGER*8 I, N DIMENSION A(N) DO I = 1, N A(I) = I ENDDO END

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Toon Moene (A GNU Fortran maintainer and physicist at large)

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Does a template work?
Authored by: webster on Wednesday, January 16 2008 @ 06:19 PM EST
..
I have been working on a template in a text editor. I welcome any suggestions.
I basically have the paragraphs set up for various functions. I type into the
ones that fit and then delete the rest of the template. I have paragraphs for
links and block quotes. Then I have more commands ready to cut and paste.
Someone's comment inspired this effort. (This was not produced that way.}

I will reply this with an effort.

I request that someone improve this with the list functions that would result in
a newly numbered paragraph automatically. Thanks.


BEGIN.....Template....

<br>
<br>

<p>1. </p>
<br>
<p>2. </p>
<br>
<p>3. </p>
<br>
<p>?. <blockquote></blockquote></p>
<p>?. <a href="http://www.example.com/">Like
this</a></p>
<br>
<p></p>


<b></b> <i></i> <u></u>

<strike></strike> <a></a> <em><em>

<strong></strong> <tt></tt>
<hr></hr>

<li></li> <ol></ol> <ul></ul>

<sup></sup>

<sub></sub>


END of Template

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webster

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Spaces in the URL string
Authored by: red floyd on Wednesday, January 16 2008 @ 07:27 PM EST
If some site is evil, and has a space in the URL, then use a %20 in place of the
space.

In general, any ASCII character in a URL can be replaced with %nn (where nn is
the hexadecimal value of that ASCII character). Useful for things such as
quotes in a string (see Google for an example).

Note that this also solves the "Ampersand problem".


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I am not merely a "consumer" or a "taxpayer". I am a *CITIZEN* of the United
States of America.

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Trying to defeat Geeklog Add-A-Space in HREF
Authored by: bbaston on Wednesday, January 16 2008 @ 10:24 PM EST
FWIW Department [but results may vary]

To the classic HREF example

[a href="http://www.example.com/"]Like this[/a]
add a SPACE after the " and before the closing > as here:
[a href="http://www.example.com/" ]Like this[/a]
That little space can make an otherwise broken link - so it might be worth pointing out in the red help example.

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[I gave up on commenting out arrow brackets and substituted [ and ] in my examples. ?? Grr.]

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IMBW, IANAL2, IMHO, IAVO
imaybewrong, iamnotalawyertoo, inmyhumbleopinion, iamveryold

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How To Do Comments in HTML on Groklaw
Authored by: juliac on Thursday, January 17 2008 @ 08:20 AM EST

Great tutorial, nice and simple. I'd suggest that a link to it be added on the reply form (and perhaps also a prompt there to change post mode to HTML and to use Preview). It'd also be nice if it were licensed under a CC license that allows derivative works so that we could modify it for use with non-Geeklog systems.

Nit-pick: "</p> and </li> are optional" violates my sense of balance ... but more to the point, they aren't optional in XHTML which surely someday soon will become the default for markup. Some of us were here back when there was no </p> tag, but no use forming bad habits in those who are just starting out.

At any rate, thanks to Erwan for this very useful document.

-- Julia

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Have you contributed to Groklaw lately?

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How To Do Comments in HTML on Groklaw
Authored by: ewilts on Thursday, January 17 2008 @ 09:51 AM EST
Simple answer: bbcode - this module takes plain text and automatically converts
it to html where appropriate. Email addresses and urls are a common use of
this.

Why try and train users (sometimes a lost cause!) when computers can do the job
easily and efficiently?

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Tables?
Authored by: TerryC on Thursday, January 17 2008 @ 12:10 PM EST
Am I being dense? The fourth bullet under 'The Simple Things' starts off
'Tables', but I don't think the production of Tables is described.

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Just think; if Microsoft added 'You hereby grant us a license to print money' to
their EULA, it wouldn't change it's meaning a bit.

Terry

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  • Tables? - Authored by: Erwan on Thursday, January 17 2008 @ 12:25 PM EST
Unclear about where to put line breaks
Authored by: DrHow on Monday, January 21 2008 @ 11:49 PM EST
It says, "If your url is quite long, please find a natural break point, any
punctuation such as / or & or = and right there, hit the return key to move
to the next line." I would have expected "just after" or
"just before" rather than "right there". Does it make a
difference? If so, the ambiguity needs to be corrected. If not, it would be
better to say so than to leave the reader wondering.

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Also add to comment form
Authored by: DrHow on Tuesday, January 22 2008 @ 12:10 AM EST
under "Important Stuff" a comment to urge use of the
"Preview" button before submitting a comment. In that context, also
note that failure to do so is not irreversible if you get into a botched comment
before someone else responds to it. For the original poster, there is initially
a "Delete" option on a comment. (I have noticed numerous cases where
a poster has corrected a mistake by making yet another post when it was clear
that the poster could have just deleted the original post and reposted with the
correction.)

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If you're using Firefox.....
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, January 22 2008 @ 12:57 PM EST
If you're using Firefox as your browser, this extension gives you a WYSIWYG html editor that genearates the html for you.

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