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More Core: In re: Stone & Webster
Tuesday, October 02 2007 @ 12:42 AM EDT

Here's a case [PDF] that really explains what is and what isn't core in a bankruptcy, and it's a case in the same District of Delaware that SCO is in. I think you'll agree with me after you read it that SCO's chances of pulling any of the prepetition litigation into bankruptcy court are somewhere between nill and unlikely. The case is Consolidated SWINC Estate and SWE&C Liquidating Trust v. ACE USA, Inc. (In re Stone & Webster, Inc.), Adv. Pro. No. 07-50390 (PJW), 2007 WL 1334498, -- B.R. -- (Bankr. D. Del. May 4, 2007), and as you can see it's a recent decision. The case is all about an insurance dispute, and it revolved around whether it was prepetition, hence noncore, or postpetition, which would make it core. It also discusses "related to" core issues.

I so wish I could find a way to show you how to use Lexis. But since we can't all buy their services, and I'm therefore restricting myself to public materials, what I would suggest is this: you will notice that the judge lists quite a few other cases. If you look them up, one by one, and actually read them, you will for sure know what core is and what SCO's chances are in the District of Delaware. It's the long way, but it's all I can think of. If you find one, please post the url to it in a comment so others can find it too. Gold stars if you also quote the part about what is and what isn't core. A service like Lexis does all that work for you, and collects cases in categories, along with information about what happened to the case down the road, so it's much easier. But this works too, at least for our purposes. And with practice, you learn to pick out just the parts that are relevant to your case so you don't take too long to get where you are going. There is more to it in real life, because you have to check to make sure the ruling is still good law and hasn't been overturned, but I haven't figured out a free way to show you that either yet.

Speaking of SCO's chances, according to Darl McBride, they are better than you think they are. The problem is we don't understand bankruptcy:

One problem, he said, is that the bankruptcy filing is being improperly described in some places. "It appears that there are a lot of people who are missing the finer points of bankruptcy law between Chapter 11 [reorganization] and Chapter 7 [liquidation]," McBride said. "We're in the type of bankruptcy that Texaco and Dow Corning and Kmart and United Air Lines and Delta Air Lines and Macy's have been through," where the companies have reorganized their assets and debts and remained in business.

"It seems like we're lumped into the other type, which is more of a liquidation event and [the company] goes out of business," he said. "We are trying to reinforce that we are in the middle of reorganizing, restructuring, looking at some new ways we're going to be doing things going forward. We do have discussions here with folks that I can't get into the details of, but I believe there's going to be some opportunity to have some added boost, if you will, to what we're doing here -- depending on how and when we partner up with these folks."

Heaven only knows we're trying to figure all this bankruptcy stuff out. The day they filed, I posted this link that leads to an explanation about Chapter 11. You can read about Chapter 7 here, and then compare. There will be a pop quiz.

Nah. But he surely can't complain that Groklaw isn't doing its part. On the Chapter 7 page, it explains a bit about Chapter 11:

Debtors should be aware that there are several alternatives to chapter 7 relief. For example, debtors who are engaged in business, including corporations, partnerships, and sole proprietorships, may prefer to remain in business and avoid liquidation. Such debtors should consider filing a petition under chapter 11 of the Bankruptcy Code. Under chapter 11, the debtor may seek an adjustment of debts, either by reducing the debt or by extending the time for repayment, or may seek a more comprehensive reorganization.

I'm hoping for "extending the time for repayment" myself. But while I don't wish to rain on anyone's parade, and I actually mean that because I want SCO to survive so it can pay everyone it owes at least something, unless SCO has some airplanes in a hangar somewhere or an oil field gushing away, I'm seriously wondering what it can do. SCO has shown resourcefulness, that's for sure, so I await the news with real interest.

He also goes on to badmouth Judge Kimball, which I find so offensive, I won't quote it. I'm just mentioning it to record it as part of the history. If you stand in SCO's way, it's for sure you will be smeared in the media, I have noticed. That's not a good thing, SCOfolk. Not a good thing at all.

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UNITED STATES BANKRUPTCY COURT
DISTRICT OF DELAWARE

In re:

STONE & WEBSTER, INCORPORATED,

et al.,

Debtors.

_______________________________
CONSOLIDATED SWINC ESTATE and
SWE&C LIQUIDATING TRUST,

Plaintiffs,

v.

ACE USA, INC., and
CENTURY INDEMNITY COMPANY,

Defendants. )

____________

Chapter 11

Case No. 00-2142(PJW)
Jointly Administered

Adv. Proc. No. 07-50390(PJW)

___________________________

MEMORANDUM OPINION

[list of lawyers]

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[lawyer list cont.]

Dated: May 4, 2007

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WALSH, J.

This opinion is with respect to the motion (Adv. Doc. # 12) of defendant Century Indemnity Company (“Century”) for determination that this adversary proceeding brought by Consolidated SWINC Estate and SWE&C Liquidating Trust (collectively, “Plaintiffs”) is non-core. For the reasons outlined below, I will grant Century’s motion.

BACKGROUND1

Plaintiffs are successors-in-interest of Chapter 11 debtors Stone & Webster, Inc. and certain of its subsidiaries (collectively “the Debtors”). Century is a successor-in-interest to companies that purportedly issued comprehensive general liability insurance policies to the Debtors between 1932 and 1961. (Adv. Doc. # 1, ¶ 22.) In this adversary proceeding, the Plaintiffs sue Century and Ace USA, Inc. (“Ace”) seeking damages and a declaration that these insurance policies cover alleged environmental liabilities of the Debtors. (Id. at ¶ 1.)

The Debtors filed voluntary petitions for relief under chapter 11 of the Bankruptcy Code, 11 U.S.C. §§ 101 et seq., on June 2, 2000. Prior to the bankruptcy filing, two parties, Southern Union Company (“SU”) and Narragansett Electric Company (“NEC”), filed environmental tort claims against the Debtors in two federal district courts (the “SU/NEC Claims”). Through the claims,

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SU and NEC sought to recover costs allegedly incurred in the cleanup of seventeen manufactured gas plants and manufactured gas waste disposal sites that the Debtors allegedly owned or operated. (Id. at ¶¶ 25, 27.) Plaintiffs allege that Century’s predecessorin-interest had a duty to defend the Debtors against the SU/NEC Claims and indemnify them under the disputed insurance policies. (Id. at ¶ 29.) However, when the Debtors requested coverage, Century’s predecessor-in-interest allegedly failed to fulfill its duty. (Id. at ¶¶ 28-29.) As the claims were not resolved before the Debtors’ bankruptcy filing, SU and NEC filed proofs of claim totaling over $20 million for costs incurred and undetermined future amounts in connection with the cleanup of the seventeen sites. (Id. at ¶ 26.)

The Debtors negotiated a settlement with SU and NEC pursuant to which the Debtors agreed to pay $5 million and 50% of any recoveries from insurers, including Century, up to $10 million. (Id. at ¶¶ 34-35.) When the Debtors moved for this Court to approve the settlement, (Doc. # 4657), Century objected to the motion arguing that the settlement agreement infringed on its rights under the policies. (Doc. # 4687.) After a hearing, this Court overruled Century’s objection and granted the Debtor’s motion to approve the settlement on January 9, 2004. (Doc. # 4865.) On January 16, 2004, this Court issued findings of fact and conclusions of law confirming the Debtors’ Third Amended Joint Plan

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of Reorganization wherein Century’s rights, claims and/or defenses in any subsequent litigation regarding the insurance policies are explicitly reserved. (Doc. # 4879, ¶ 40.)

Plaintiffs commenced this adversary proceeding on January 26, 2007 alleging the following counts against Century and Ace: (1) breach of contract; (2) breach of an implied covenant of good faith and fair dealing; and (3) violation of Rhode Island General Law § 9-1-33, which prohibits an insurer from refusing in bad faith to pay a claim under an insurance policy. (Adv. Doc. # 1, ¶¶ 39-54.) Plaintiffs also request a declaratory judgment stating that (1) Plaintiffs have complied with all terms and conditions of the policies; (2) Century had a duty to defend the Debtors in connection with the SU/NEC Claims or to compensate the Debtors for their reasonable costs of defending such claims, and Century breached that duty; and (3) Plaintiffs’ claim in connection with the settlement with SU and NEC is covered by the policies. (Id. at ¶ 59.) Plaintiffs claim that they are entitled to damages, including punitive damages, plus fees, expenses, costs, and interest in an amount to be determined at trial. (Id.)

DISCUSSION

Century’s motion for a determination that this proceeding is non-core is ancillary to Century’s motion to the District of Delaware to withdraw the reference with respect to this adversary proceeding.

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The distinction between core and non-core proceedings is rooted in the U.S. Supreme Court's decision in Northern Pipeline Construction Co. v. Marathon Pipe Line Co., 458 U.S. 50, 73 L. Ed. 2d 598, 102 S. Ct. 2858 (1982). In that case, the Supreme Court ruled that bankruptcy courts, unlike Article III courts, do not have the power to adjudicate "state created private rights," because these rights are too distant from the core of bankruptcy courts' congressionally granted power. Id. at 71. In 1984, Congress codified the Supreme Court's concept of core bankruptcy jurisdiction by enacting 28 U.S.C. § 157(b)(1) to provide authority for bankruptcy courts to hear and enter final judgments in "all cases under title 11 and all core proceedings arising under title 11, or arising in a case under title 11." 28 U.S.C. § 157(b)(1); see also Burke v. Donington, Karcher, Salmond, Ronan & Rainone, P.A. (In re Donington, Karcher, Salmond, Ronan & Rainone, P.A.), 194 B.R. 750, 758 (D.N.J. 1996). Bankruptcy courts may hear noncore proceedings that are related to a case under title 11, but rather than entering final orders, they must submit proposed findings of fact and conclusions of law to the district court subject to de novo review. 28 U.S.C. § 157(c)(1); see also In re Ramex Int’l, Inc., 91 B.R. 313, 315 (E.D. Pa. 1988); Valley Forge Plaza Assocs. v. Fireman’s Fund Ins. Co., 107 B.R. 514, 516 (E.D. Pa. 1989).

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Section 157(b) does not define what a "core proceeding" is, but it does provide a non-exclusive list of types of proceedings that are "core." 2 Courts have used various tests and

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standards to determine whether a proceeding is core, some of them much narrower than others. See, e.g., In re Castlerock Properties, 781 F.2d 159, 162 (9th Cir. 1986) (taking a narrow view);In re Arnold Print Works, Inc., 815 F.2d 165, 168 (1st Cir. 1987) (taking a broad view, “close to or congruent with constitutional limits"). Under the prevailing standard in the Third Circuit, a court must first determine if a proceeding fits into one of the categories of core proceedings given in § 157(b)(2). Halper v. Halper, 164 F.3d 830, 836 (3d Cir. 1999). If it does not, the court must apply the following test: “'a proceeding is core [1] if it invokes a substantive right provided by title 11 or [2] if it is a proceeding, that by its nature, could arise only in the context of

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a bankruptcy case.'” Id. (quoting Torkelsen v. Maggio (In re Guild & Gallery Plus), 72 F.3d 1171, 1178 (3d Cir. 1996)); and In re Marcus Hook Dev. Park Inc., 943 F.2d 261, 267 (3d Cir. 1991); see also In re United States Brass Corp., 110 F.3d 1261, 1268 (7th Cir. 1997) (“Core proceedings are actions by or against the debtor that arise under the Bankruptcy Code in the strong sense that the Code itself is the source of the claimant's right or remedy, rather than just the procedural vehicle for the assertion of a right conferred by some other body of law, normally state law.”); Wood v. Wood (In re Wood), 825 F.2d 90, 97 (5th Cir. 1987) (“If the proceeding does not invoke a substantive right created by the federal bankruptcy law and is one that could exist outside of bankruptcy it is not a core proceeding."). A core proceeding "must have as its foundation the creation, recognition, or adjudication of rights which would not exist independent of a bankruptcy environment although of necessity there may be peripheral state law involvement." Travelers Cas. & Sur. Co. v. Skinner Engine Co. (In re Am. Capital Equipment, LLC), 325 B.R. 372, 375 (W.D. Pa. 2005) (citing Hatzel & Buehler v. Orange & Rockland Utils., 107 B.R. 34, 39 (D. Del. 1989)). On the other hand, courts generally find that state law causes of action brought by or on behalf of the debtor, which do not fall within the provisions of 28 U.S.C. § 157(b)(2)(B)-(N), are non-core matters. See In re Ramex Int’l, Inc., 91 B.R. at 315; In

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re Athos Steel and Aluminum, Inc., 71 B.R. 525, 534 (Bankr. E.D. Pa. 1987); In re Castlerock Properties, 781 F.2d at 162.

Another factor that is relevant to the determination of whether a proceeding is core or non-core is the time period in which the underlying claim arises. The Supreme Court in Northern Pipeline ruled that Article I bankruptcy courts are constitutionally restricted when it comes to the adjudication of pre-petition state law claims. 458 U.S. at 71. However, Northern Pipeline does not hold that there is any constitutional impediment that would prevent bankruptcy courts from deciding state law causes of action that arise post-petition. Valley Forge Plaza Assocs., 107 B.R. at 517. Claims that arise post-petition are generally found to be core. See, e.g., Beard v. Braunstein, 914 F.2d 434, 444-45 (3d Cir. 1990); In re Donington, Karcher, Salmond, Ronan & Rainone, P.A., 194 B.R. at 758-59; Bernheim v. Chubb Ins. Co., 160 B.R. 42, 45 (D.N.J. 1993); Billing v. Ravin Greenberg & Zackin, P.A. (In re Billing), 150 B.R. 563, 566 (D.N.J. 1993), rev'd on other grounds, 22 F.3d 1242 (3d Cir. 1994), cert. denied, 513 U.S. 999, 130 L. Ed. 2d 416, 115 S. Ct. 508 (1994). For example, in West Electronics, Inc. v. National Union Fire Ins. Co. (In re West Electronics, Inc.), the debtor asserted a claim against an insurance company for damage to property that occurred postpetition. 128 B.R. 900 (Bankr. D.N.J. 1991). The court ruled that the proceeding was core under 28 U.S.C. § 157(b)(2)(A) and (E)

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because it involved a “matter[] concerning the administration of the estate” and an “order[] to turn over property of the estate.” Id. at 904. Had the damage to the property occurred pre-petition, it would have been a plain state law claim by the debtor, remote from the substantive rights granted under the Bankruptcy Code. However, because the damage occurred post-petition, the connection between the claim and the bankruptcy case was greater because the property was property of the estate belonging to a debtor-inpossession. Id.

One other factor that parties sometimes discuss in motions to find that a proceeding is non-core is the economic benefit a claim can provide to the estate if it is successful. Some courts have suggested that the prospect of a claim augmenting the estate is relevant to the determination of whether a claim is core or non-core. See, e.g., St. Paul Fire and Marine Ins. Co. v. PepsiCo, Inc., 884 F.2d 688, 701 (2d Cir. 1989) ("[P]roceedings having the effect of bringing property into the estate of the debtor are core proceedings as defined by section 157(b)."). However, in the Third Circuit, courts do not consider this to be a factor. Phar-Mor, Inc. v. Coopers & Lybrand, 22 F.3d 1228, 1239 n.19 (3d Cir. 1994) (finding that a pre-petition breach of contract claim that could bring property into the estate was “precisely the type of proceeding that is non-core and outside the power of the bankruptcy court to adjudicate”); see also In re Donington,

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Karcher, Salmond, Ronan & Rainone, P.A., 194 B.R. at 759 (finding that a proceeding is not core “‘merely because the resolution of the action results in more, or less, assets in the estate’” (quoting J. Baranello & Sons v. Baharestani (In re Baranello & Sons, Inc.), 149 B.R. 19, 25 (Bankr. E.D.N.Y. 1992))). The economic effect that a claim may have on the bankruptcy estate is a factor to support the exercise of “related to” jurisdiction over non-core claims under 28 U.S.C. § 157(a), Pacor, Inc. v. Higgins, 743 F.2d 984, 994 (3d Cir. 1984) (ruling that courts may exercise “related to” jurisdiction over a case where "the outcome could conceivably have any effect on the estate being administered in bankruptcy."), but has no bearing on the core/non-core dichotomy.

Century argues that this adversary proceeding is non-core because no substantive rights under the Bankruptcy Code are implicated, and this proceeding could exist outside of the Debtors’ bankruptcy cases. Additionally, Century argues that the claim arose pre-petition and notes that several courts have found that proceedings to determine insurance coverage for pre-petition activity are non-core. In re Amatex Corp., 107 B.R. 856 (E.D. Pa. 1989), aff’d, 908 F.2d 963 (3d Cir. 1991); In re United States Brass, 110 F.3d 1261; Allied Prods. Corp. v. Hartford Accident & Indem. Co. (In re Allied Prods. Corp.), 02 C 8436, 2003 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 2596 (N.D. Ill. Feb. 20, 2003); Official Comm. of Asbestos Claimants v. G-I Holdings, Inc. (In re G-I Holdings, Inc.), 295

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B.R. 211 (D.N.J. 2003); In re Ramex Int’l, Inc., 91 B.R. 313.3 Plaintiffs counter with several cases where courts have found that proceedings to determine insurance coverage are core. In re West Electronics, Inc., 128 B.R. 900; In re Am. Capital Equipment, LLC, 325 B.R. 372;Koken v. Reliance Group Holdings, Inc. (In re Reliance Group Holdings, Inc.), 273 B.R. 374, 396 (Bankr. E.D. Pa. 2002); Valley Forge Plaza Assocs., 107 B.R. 514.

The primary disagreement between the parties is whether the adversary proceeding at hand arose out of pre-petition or postpetition activity. Plaintiffs argue that Century’s alleged failure to defend against or indemnify the Debtors for the SU/NEC Claims occurred post-petition. However, Plaintiffs do not refute Century’s contention that the parties were disputing whether Century had a responsibility to cover Plaintiffs for the SU/NEC Claims long before the commencement of these bankruptcy cases. Pre-petition activity relating to this dispute is well-documented in the Debtors’ chapter 11 cases. For example, in the disclosure statement there is a detailed discussion of pre-petition litigation involving environmental claims against the Debtors and the Debtors’ attempt to obtain indemnification rights against insurers, including Century’s predecessor-in-interest, Insurance Company of North America. (Doc. # 4473, pp. 23-24.) Over ten years ago, the

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Southern District of New York granted summary judgment in favor of the Debtor finding that Insurance Company of North America had a duty to the Debtor against claims by other environmental claimants. Stone & Webster Mgmt. Consultants v. Travelers Indem. Co., 94 Civ. 6619 (RPP), 1996 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 4852 (S.D.N.Y. Apr. 15, 1996). The settlement agreement between the Debtors and SU and NEC is obviously a follow-up to that litigation. Therefore, it is incorrect for Plaintiffs to argue that this dispute concerning insurance coverage arose post-petition.

As it is clear that Plaintiffs’ claims arose prepetition, three of the four cases that Plaintiffs cite where courts ruled that a proceeding to determine insurance coverage was core can be distinguished on that fact alone. In re West Electronics, Inc., 128 B.R. at 903 (finding that a proceeding to determine insurance coverage was core where alleged property damage occurred post-petition); In re Am. Capital Equipment, LLC, 325 B.R. at 376 (finding that a proceeding to determine insurance coverage for future post-petition liability was core where the insurer’s claims were “based solely on the debtor's actions in its bankruptcy case” -- the alleged breach of an insurance contract was created by the reorganization plan proposed by the debtor); Valley Forge Plaza Assocs., 107 B.R. at 518 (finding that a proceeding to determine insurance coverage was core where alleged breach of contract occurred post-petition). In Valley Forge Plaza Associates, the

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court even recognized that “[a] number of courts have held that an action by a debtor or trustee against the debtor's insurer is a non-core proceeding.” 107 B.R. at 516.

The other case that Plaintiffs cite, In re Reliance Group Holdings, Inc., 273 B.R. 374, is also distinguishable. In that case the debtor alleged that the Insurance Commissioner of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania sought a declaration that the debtor’s assets included certain insurance policies that provided coverage up to $125 million. The court ruled that this was a core proceeding not because it involved the determination of insurance coverage, but because it required the court to determine whether the insurance policies were property of the estate -- an issue squarely within the Bankruptcy Code § 541 purview. Id. at 394 (citing Pension Benefit Guaranty Corp. v. Continental Airlines, Inc. (In re Continental Airlines), 138 B.R. 442, 445 (D. Del. 1992)) (A determination regarding property of the estate is a core proceeding).

In further support of their argument that this proceeding is core, Plaintiffs assert that this proceeding could not exist outside of bankruptcy because the dispute is interrelated with SU and NEC’s proofs of claim and this Court’s approval of the settlement agreement under Bankruptcy Code §§ 105 and 502(a). While the proofs of claim and the approval of the settlement in bankruptcy do spring from sections of the Bankruptcy Code that do

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not apply outside of bankruptcy, these elements are only peripheral to this proceeding. The filing of the proof of claim is a technical requirement that does not relate to whether the insurance policies in question cover the SU/NEC Claims. As noted above, the substantive dispute here started some ten years ago in the District Court for the Southern District of New York.

Likewise, the fact that this Court approved the settlement is of no particular significance because the settlement approval procedure does not make the settlement unique to a bankruptcy case. What took place in the bankruptcy case was a claim and a settlement that could have been effected outside of the bankruptcy court if the Debtors had not filed petitions. It is incorrect to say that the claims and their settlement could not arise absent the bankruptcy cases. The proof of claim is nothing more than what would be called a “complaint” in a state court or a federal district court and this Court’s approval of the settlement is of no more significance than a conventional complaint settlement in civil litigation. At its root, this proceeding is a plain breach of contract claim governed by state law. Pre-petition state law contract claims are precisely the type of claim that the Supreme Court held could not be decided by non-Article III judges in Northern Pipeline, 458 U.S. at 71. See also Valley Forge Plaza Assocs., 107 B.R. at 516.

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Plaintiffs also argue that this adversary proceeding is core because it will augment amounts available for distribution to creditors. As discussed above, the prospect that a claim may provide economic benefit to the estate does not factor into the determination of whether a claim is core or non-core. See PharMor, Inc., 22 F.3d at 1239 n.19. While it is possible that Plaintiffs may succeed in this adversary proceeding and that both Plaintiffs and SU and NEC may benefit from the proceeds of the disputed insurance policies, it is also possible that Plaintiffs may lose.

CONCLUSION

For the reasons outlined above, the Court finds that this adversary proceeding is clearly non-core. Therefore, Century’s motion for determination that this adversary proceeding is non-core is granted.

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UNITED STATES BANKRUPTCY COURT
DISTRICT OF DELAWARE

In re:

STONE & WEBSTER, INCORPORATED,

et al.,

Debtors.

_______________________________
CONSOLIDATED SWINC ESTATE and
SWE&C LIQUIDATING TRUST,

Plaintiffs,

v.

ACE USA, INC., and
CENTURY INDEMNITY COMPANY,

Defendants. )

____________

Chapter 11

Case No. 00-2142(PJW)
Jointly Administered

Adv. Proc. No. 07-50390(PJW)

___________________________

ORDER

For the reasons set forth in the Court’s memorandum opinion of this date, the motion (Doc. # 12) of defendant Century Indemnity Company for determination that this proceeding is noncore is GRANTED.

Peter J. Walsh
United States Bankruptcy Judge

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1 The following facts are not in dispute.

2 28 U.S.C. § 157(b)(2) provides:

Core proceedings include, but are not limited to-
(A) matters concerning the administration of the estate;

(B) allowance or disallowance of claims against the estate or exemptions from property of the estate, and estimation of claims or interests for the purposes of confirming a plan under chapter 11, 12, or 13 of title 11 [11 USCS §§ 1101 et seq., 1201 et seq. or 1301 et seq.] but not the liquidation or estimation of contingent or unliquidated personal injury tort or wrongful death claims against the estate for purposes of distribution in a case under title 11;

(C) counterclaims by the estate against persons filing claims against the estate;

(D) orders in respect to obtaining credit;

(E) orders to turn over property of the estate;

(F) proceedings to determine, avoid, or recover preferences;

(G) motions to terminate, annul, or modify the automatic stay;

(H) proceedings to determine, avoid, or recover fraudulent conveyances;

(I) determinations as to the dischargeability of particular debts;

(J) objections to discharges;

(K) determinations of the validity, extent, or priority of liens;

(L) confirmations of plans;

(M) orders approving the use or lease of property, including the use of cash collateral;

(N) orders approving the sale of property other than property resulting from claims brought by the estate against persons who have not filed claims against the estate;

(O) other proceedings affecting the liquidation of the assets of the estate or the adjustment of the debtor-creditor or the equity security holder relationship, except personal injury tort or wrongful death claims; and

(P) recognition of foreign proceedings and other matters under chapter 15 of title 11.

3 See also In re A.I.A. Indus., Inc., 75 B.R. 1013 (Bankr. E.D. Pa. 1987); Rosen-Novak Auto Co. v. Honz, 783 F.2d 739 (8th Cir. 1986); In re R.I. Lithograph Corp., 60 Bankr. 199 (Bankr. D.R.I. 1986).


  


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Authored by: racergreg on Tuesday, October 02 2007 @ 12:45 AM EDT
Please put the correction in the title. Thanks!

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Use html for links - you know the drill.

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To comment on those interesting news items on the right.

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Hoping SCO survives
Authored by: kawabago on Tuesday, October 02 2007 @ 01:31 AM EDT
I hate to disagree with you pj, but hoping SCO survives to make restitution is
like hoping cockroaches survive so they can evolve into something warm and
fuzzy.

SCO should be liquidated, proceeds to Novell. Novell should GPL Unix just spit
on SCO's grave. Boies Schiller should pay everyones legal costs. Yarrow should
be marooned on a 'private' island, that's dry only at low tide. He'll be right
at home there. Darl McBride should be enjoined from lying, effectively
rendering him mute. Pj should win a big lottery.

That's what I'd like to see.

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McBride's Myth
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, October 02 2007 @ 01:44 AM EDT
Quiz questions for all you lawyer types. How many and what type of reversals has Judge Kimbal had? Over how many years on the bench? How does his appeals record compare to other Judges handling the same types of cases? This would be a great opportunity to debunk another McBride Myth. Bonnie not signed in.

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McBride and Kimball
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, October 02 2007 @ 02:08 AM EDT

Reducing McBride's statements about Kimball to their purported statement of fact: McBride said that nearly two-thirds of Kimball's summary judgements which go to appeal get overturned by the higher court.

Assuming that that is true, it's surely inoffensive; it's just a statistical fact.

On the other hand, it doesn't mean much in itself. Lawyers other than BSF don't usually go to the trouble of appealing unless they have a reasonable chance of winning the appeal. Anyone who really wants to know the statistical probability of a Kimball ruling being overturned, also needs to know what fraction of his summary judgements are appealed. Since McBride doesn't tell us that number, I would assume it is very low.

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McBride's Gambling References
Authored by: JR on Tuesday, October 02 2007 @ 02:15 AM EDT
Sorry, but this guy is just too funny. I'm quoting him from the article in the
link:
"But you know, you take the cards you're dealt with and that's where we are
right now."

Hmmm, let me see, SCO and SCO management, you sat down at the table when you
knew you had every chance of losing, you made the first bet, you raised the
stakes, then you tried to cheat, you lied, and tried every psych you could
possibly try to intimidate, then you raised the bet again, and when you knew you
had lost and you had to pay up, you said: "timeout... I have to go spend
the money on a new suit so I can play again"

... Interesting, very interesting...

I am no lawyer or nor I know how to play poker, but I can certainly smell
something fishy coming from SCO headquarters...

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More Core: In re: Stone & Webster
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, October 02 2007 @ 02:26 AM EDT
Isn't it likely that if Novell gets their 3-5 day trial and wins, that they will
attempt to have SCO found in breach of contract and have all the Unix business
returned because SCO doesn't have the money?

They could even wind up with SCO's original interest in OpenServer. That would
take SCO right out of the Unix business completely so they could concentrate on
their mobile market as fantastic as that is.

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Contempt?
Authored by: giskard on Tuesday, October 02 2007 @ 04:07 AM EDT
isn't it contemptuous to say that the judge was incompetent, which is
essentially what he's saying here? can you go out and say that a judge you have
just been before has a "dismal record"?

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  • Contempt? - Authored by: Ian Al on Tuesday, October 02 2007 @ 04:24 AM EDT
  • Contempt? - Authored by: jmc on Tuesday, October 02 2007 @ 05:01 AM EDT
  • Contempt? - Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, October 02 2007 @ 05:51 AM EDT
PJ! - Kimball, and overturned PSJ's.
Authored by: ghost on Tuesday, October 02 2007 @ 05:11 AM EDT

PJ, something that i (an many others with me, perhaps?) would enjoy having some
light shed on, would be the public claim by McBride and others, that 2/3's of
Kimball's PSJ's are overturned on appeals.

I fully understand the antics of the SCO people, and therefore wonder:

Of all the allegedly "overturned" PSJ's, are they:
a) really overturned?
b) tossed out on appeal?
c) or are there a partial overturn, or,
d) just a minor adjustment to the judgement?

It would be good to get a feeling for the true facts, and to see some kind of a
"scorecard" if you wish, because the way he is portrayed, it sounds
that as he is leaving a trail of bad judgements behind him, and i don't think
this is really the case.

This would yet again, and most likely be an excercise in SCO-Speak debunking.

McBride mentioned using a microscope when looking at the appeals, so if i
interpret that correctly, it should be option "d", and that, i
wouldn't find that very surprising, that there would be minor adjustments every
so often, if new evidence is taken into account.

A PSJ being overturned just by appealing it, with no new facts or other support,
well, i just don't see that happen, not without a very good reason.

Could you help us unravel the truth behind these accusations against Kimball?

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Congratulations PJ
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, October 02 2007 @ 09:21 AM EDT
I actually read the Computerworld interview with Darl. It's safe to say from his quotes that Groklaw seriously gets under his skin. He no doubt believes that all of his big plans and dreams of easy money were shot down by one little website. "And he would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for those meddling kids."

I did find this quote funny:
One bad ruling does not a full legal conclusion make.

Which ruling would that be Darl? The Daimler Chrysler ruling? The Judge Wells IBM dismissal of most of your "evidence?" The Novell ruling over copyright ownership? The Novell ruling denying a jury trial? The Novell ruling deciding SCOsource was a SVRX license? The Novell ruling allowing Novell to waive claims?

You need to be more specific Darl. We just don't have a clue what you are talking about...

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Lexis-Nexus
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, October 02 2007 @ 10:35 AM EDT
"I so wish I could find a way to show you how to use Lexis. But since we
can't all buy their services, and I'm therefore restricting myself to public
materials..."

PJ, a *lot* of libraries offer Lexis-Nexus access, and many people may also have
it through work. I strongly encourage you to write an article showing us how to
use it effectively, even though not everyone will have access.

--Anon Y. Mouse

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  • Lexis-Nexus - Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, October 02 2007 @ 05:16 PM EDT
it's not a river in Egypt...
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, October 02 2007 @ 12:47 PM EDT
ianal, but Darl must be on some serious meds. Funny how the view from his PR
soapbox is so rosy, yet it doesn't match either the court or SEC filings, where
the
'truth' is much less mutable.

The only mobility i'm interested in from SCO is when they send Darl & Co.
mobile.

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Core:A determination regarding property of the estate is a core
Authored by: rsteinmetz70112 on Tuesday, October 02 2007 @ 02:29 PM EDT
I'd guess this is where SCO is going.

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Rsteinmetz - IANAL therefore my opinions are illegal.

"I could be wrong now, but I don't think so."
Randy Newman - The Title Theme from Monk

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when is the court going to decide that:
Authored by: rc on Wednesday, October 03 2007 @ 01:22 PM EDT
When is the court going to decide that tSCOg is 'rotten to the core'

Sorry, but nobody ELSE has said it yet... ;-)

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rc

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