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Same Slime, Different Day - updated 4Xs |
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Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 06:00 PM EDT
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More unpleasant insinuations, as you may have noticed by Paul McDougall on Information Week with the unbiased (ha ha) title,
"IBM Helps Fund Web Hosting For Anti-SCO Site Groklaw." Yessir. No point of view there. What a stretching of facts to suit a purpose! May I please be the first to say out loud what you are all thinking? -- So what? It isn't news that IBM contributes to ibiblio and has done so for years, long before Groklaw was born. They didn't stop when Groklaw moved to ibiblio. That's the extent of the accusation. That's all there is to the story. Dan Lyons started sliming Groklaw with this ibiblio story in 2003, so it's not worthy of a headline now. SCO has been pushing this innuendo since at least 2004. Blake Stowell carried the same baton, remember? "It may be that kind of intransigence that leads SCO's Blake Stowell to hint at darker motives. 'Doesn't anyone find it the least bit ironic,' he asks, 'that Pamela Jones lives ... less than 10 miles from IBM's worldwide headquarters, and that Groklaw is hosted, free, by a nonprofit outfit called iBiblio, which runs on $250,000 worth of Linux-based computers donated by IBM and a $2 million donation from a foundation set up by Robert Young, founder of Red Hat?'
"'Call me crazy,' adds Stowell, 'but I somehow think that Pamela Jones isn't just a paralegal with nothing better to do with her life than host a Web site called Groklaw that is dedicated to bashing SCO. I think there is a lot more to her background and intentions than she is willing to reveal publicly. I believe that Big Blue looms large behind Pamela Jones.'"
Well, the joke is on them. I am a paralegal with nothing better to do than Groklaw, and there is no Big Blue looming behind me. ibiblio hosts literally thousands of websites. IBM had nothing to do with Groklaw getting started, and we were already a force before we moved to ibiblio, and IBM had nothing to do with ibiblio accepting Groklaw. We were accepted because we qualified. Just because ibiblio hosts Groklaw doesn't mean I work for IBM. I don't. And I'd like to say thank you to ibiblio for hosting us. I'm deeply grateful that they don't allow the nonstop slime to cloud their vision.
Remember when SCO implied that Andrew Morton was an IBM supporter because he worked for OSDL at one time, and IBM contributed to OSDL? That's the peculiar way SCO connects dots. Morton and Linus chose to work for OSDL because it was vendor-neutral, with some 70 entities contributing to it. But to SCO, it's all IBM, everywhere they look. That is the level of stupid that these folks are peddling. ibiblio receives and accepts contributions from a lot of entities.
The article claims that I didn't answer the reporter's email prior to publication, but from the timestamp on the email, it appears he didn't email me until after publication. I did answer him.
Here's what I said: Hi Paul,
SCO has weird fantasies about conspiracies, and they're mean as snakes,
in my view, and now desperate, so they libel me and now, I gather,
ibiblio. They really should be ashamed of themselves. There isn't any
connection between me and IBM. They just say that to try to make
people think less of Groklaw.
ibiblio is a nonprofit that a lot of folks contribute to because it's a
national treasure. See this page.
IBM had nothing to do with me being accepted there. ibiblio hosts
thousands of valuable websites that otherwise probably couldn't afford
to be on the Internet, with a stress on historical collections and open
source and Linux and much, much more. Groklaw is a natural fit.
Project Gutenberg is hosted by ibiblio, for example, and so is Eric
Raymond's site, last I looked. Groklaw is a history project, as we
are attempting to chronicle in full detail this significant litigation,
and it's an innovative use of technology, because we were the first to
try to apply open source principles to legal research. That's all.
But take a look at our coverage, Paul, for yourself. See anything we
predicted that isn't coming true in the litigation?
How did we know so long ago? Not because I'm a committee of IBM
lawyers, and not because I am secretly Eric Raymond's wife whispering
in his ear what to write -- just two of the fantasies that SCO has
viciously floated to the press based on no facts whatsoever. It's
because Groklaw is a group work, and the world's FOSS folks came there
to help do research. Between us all (Groklaw has just under 11,000
members now and many more readers), we knew the history of Unix and
Linux, we understood the tech, and we understood the GPL and how it
works, and we understood the legal process, and we knew Linus wouldn't
steal anything from anyone.
That's really all there is to Groklaw. I have a background as a
paralegal, and so I knew that part, and I'm geeky so I understand
enough of that part of the story to at least coordinate what others
researched and found.
If I may say so, SCO could have saved itself a lot of trouble and effort
if it had just paid attention to what I was writing. I tried to warn
them multiple times that they were seriously off base about the GPL and
that it would be their Achilles' heel, but they plowed ahead anyway. Now
they are in it up to their eyeballs, but it didn't have to be this way.
Here's Groklaw's mission statement.
Best,
PJ
Why does the mainstream press consistently push SCO's slime? I have my theories, but unlike Mr. McDougall and SCO, I keep them to myself, until I have clear evidence to stand on, not these gossamer threads that they weave into conspiracies. Groklaw stood alone in the media in the beginnning, saying that SCO didn't have the facts on its side. The mainstream media swallowed SCO's bilge whole hog. Who got the story right? That's right. We did. No one who understood the technology, the GPL, and the legal issues could come to any other conclusion than Groklaw did very early on. That isn't bias; it's expertise. Here's how McDougall covered SCO's bogo claim about spoliation, by the way, the accusation the court ruled was not true. Here's part of Groklaw's. Which is more accurate, in light of the eventual court ruling? The problem with a lot of mainstream media people in covering this story is that they have no legal knowledge, so they have no way to measure whether what SCO feeds them is true or distorted. But I do. And I wrote that their motion was not likely to be successful. It wasn't. That isn't antiSCO. It's just accurate. My background and training give me an added insight. I asked McDougall for an explanation about what seems to me a pretense at giving me an opportunity to comment. There was no immediate response to my inquiry sent to him seeking comment for this story.
Update: An anonymous comment is so funny, I just have to add it here. He or she sets out to apply SCO logic to prove that ibiblio is IBM:
"ibiblio" is actually IBM, and this is quite simple to prove. Just look at the name "ibiblio". The first two letters are "ib", just like the first two letters in "IBM". IBM has obfuscated the match by spelling "ibiblio" in lower case, while "IBM" is in upper case. However, expert testimony has shown that the two are functionally equivalent. This is a clear cut case of non-literal copying.
But what about the "M" vesus "iblio"? Well, sophisticated spectral analysis shows that these too are equivalent. I realise that this may be hard for you to understand, so I will try to keep the explanation fairly simple.
# If you take the ordinal values of the ASCII characters "iblio" and add them together, you get 527 (105 + 98 + 108 + 105 + 111 = 527).
# Now the ASCII character set is stored in an 8 bit byte, which means we can have at most 256 ASCII characters. This means the result will have "wrapped around" a few times (rather like an odometer in an automobile). So this means we need to correct the result by dividing by 256 which gives us 2, with a remainder of 15 (527 / 256 = 2, remainder of 15).
# Now, this remainder of 15 is very significant. Since we are talking about the 3rd character in "IBM", we need to first subtract 2 (programmers count from "0", not from "1"). So, 15 - 2 = 13. Now, what is the 13th letter in the alphabet? It's "M" of course! It has simply been hidden by obfuscation.
So, the first two letters from "ibiblio" resolve into the first two letters of "IBM" through a simple process of non-literal copying. The remaining letters resolve into "M" when the obfuscation has been stripped away by spectral analysis.
So what about the so called "Pamela Jones"? This pseudonym also falls before our relentless logic, and we discover that Pamela Jones = Sam Palmisario! How does this work?
# Pamela Jones / Sam Palmisario. Notice the correlations here. "Pamela" is obviously a slightly rearranged "Pamila", with the "i" changed to "e" for further obfuscation.
# "Jones" is so obviously phony, we can discard that without further consideration.
# What about the remaining letters from "Sam Palmisario"? Well remove "Pamila" and you are left with "Ssamrio". Even the most cursory Google search shows a close match between "Ssamrio" and "Sanrio" (yet more obfuscation and non-literal copying)., "Sanrio" of course, are known for having deep, deep intellectual property rights in "Hello Kitty".
So ladies and gentlemen, I'm not asking you to believe me. No, I'm asking you to believe the evidence before your very eyes. Groklaw is a conspiracy perpetrated by IBM and "Hello Kitty". They can deny it as loudly as they wish, but the evidence I have shown above can't be refuted.
I hope the above has cleared the air on this issue. Thank you for your time, your patience, and of course for your $699. Irrefutable logic, ladies and gentlemen, as I live and breathe. Of course, as a friend points out, IBM's boss is Samuel J. Palmisano, not "Palmisario."
Which is actually MUCH more damning, because "Samuel J. Palmisano" is
easily rearranged to "Pamela 'Simula' Jones" (with an extra "e" added in
an obvious attempt at obfuscation).
"Then again," he says, "Anonymous's logic IS much more SCOvian..."
Update 2: I heard from McDougall. He says the time stamp on his email is wrong. He sent the email, he says, at 10:30 AM and the story was published at noon. Update 3: Roblimo says it better than I did, on Linux.com, in a brief article titled "ChangeLog: Groklaw is hosted by an IBM-supported Web site -- and this means absolutely nothing" -- a taste: ibiblio.org hosts a wide variety of sites, including The Poetry Project. And Videobloggers.org. And North American Slave Narratives.
I'm looking at the ibiblio.org main page. Right up top, in the masthead, it says, "the public's library and digital archive."
A library can and should host all kinds of material. For instance, ibiblio has downloadable binaries of Caldera Linux in its collection. Since Caldera is what SCO used to be called, does this mean (gasp) that IBM is sponsoring SCO?
I suppose I could write an inflammatory headline that said so, although I'd rather write one about how IBM "sponsors" the ibiblio-hosted Tibetan Center for Conflict Resolution, a group whose services SCO CEO Darl McBride could certainly use. Update: IBM has now issued a statement, which InformationWeek has published: "IBM has no connection to the editorial content posted on Groklaw.
Groklaw's website, and hundreds of others, are hosted on a website at the University of North Carolina (UNC), called ibliblio. This site is described by UNC as a public library. ibiblio runs on IBM System x servers which were funded through an IBM Shared University Award Grant awarded to UNC -- a grant that predates Groklaw ever being hosted on ibiblio. Anyone can host a site there and IBM does not sponsor, nor endorse, the content of those sites.
IBM is proud to sponsor many universities around the world in various ways, including helping them host websites like the one at UNC." I think it's more than hundreds of web sites. I think it's thousands. Here's the index page, and you'll be amazed at the scope of the categories alone. Here's their Linux Archive, over 171 gigabytes of Linux programs and documentation freely available for download, and their collection of Linux distributions, and while you're there, you can download Knoppix, so you can fix your stupid Microsoft software when it goes belly up. It will, you know. Or grab Fedora or Debian and go the whole hog. ibiblio also hosts the Linux Documentation Project, if you need some help. Here's an intriguing recent addition to the collection, Chaotic Maps. There is such a depth and breadth of interesting material on ibiblio. Tell your PHB to donate to ibiblio, by all means, and please tell them Groklaw inspired the gift.
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Authored by: lordshipmayhem on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 06:02 PM EDT |
As if any exist.. [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: lordshipmayhem on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 06:04 PM EDT |
Please make links clickable!
Don't forget to change the page to HTML from Plain Old Text, and remember,
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- Can't resist.. - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 07:21 PM EDT
- Funny - Authored by: MDT on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 10:15 PM EDT
- Funny - Authored by: KAKMAN on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 02:07 PM EDT
- More MS patent licenses - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 10:26 PM EDT
- UIbuntu Installs - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 11:30 PM EDT
- MINT ROCKS! - Authored by: MDT on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 01:09 AM EDT
- Groklaw inspires PresbyLaw - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 11:59 PM EDT
- Which would you rather buy, 1 CD or 1 Song? - Authored by: MDT on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 01:23 AM EDT
- Which would you rather buy, 1 CD or 1 Song? - Authored by: hAckz0r on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 06:18 AM EDT
- That depends... - Authored by: Jude on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 06:24 AM EDT
- Which would you rather buy, 1 CD or 1 Song? - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 08:01 AM EDT
- Which would you rather buy, 1 CD or 1 Song? - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 11:20 AM EDT
- You know, not everone buys cds that have "songs" on them - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 12:38 PM EDT
- Agreed! - Authored by: tyche on Saturday, March 24 2007 @ 08:01 AM EDT
- It would depend upon what else was on the CD - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 01:03 PM EDT
- Which would you rather buy, 1 CD or 1 Song? - Authored by: Darigaaz on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 04:28 PM EDT
- It depends - Authored by: nerd6 on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 06:22 PM EDT
- Mind if I cackle with glee? - Authored by: MDT on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 01:26 AM EDT
- VOIP Not to be regulated by states - Authored by: MDT on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 01:29 AM EDT
- New UltraWidband (UWB) WiFi standards signed of on. - Authored by: MDT on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 01:32 AM EDT
- EU Strangeness - Authored by: MDT on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 01:39 AM EDT
- DRM causing non-techie's problems - Authored by: MDT on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 01:55 AM EDT
- No IBM Here, Please move on - Authored by: moosie on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 02:56 AM EDT
- Wait a minute - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 04:13 AM EDT
- Ron Hovsepian in the News Picks... - Authored by: billyskank on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 04:38 AM EDT
- Digital Unix source code given away to Chinese Government? - Authored by: TAZ6416 on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 05:48 AM EDT
- Another bad poem - Authored by: cricketjeff on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 06:56 AM EDT
- In support of the snakes of the world - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 10:10 AM EDT
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Authored by: JamesK on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 06:09 PM EDT |
Slime??? I think my comment about spoliation is closer to the mark. ;-)
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Junk is stuff you throw away. Stuff is junk you keep.
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Authored by: kattemann on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 06:11 PM EDT |
There's a proverb in my language - don't know if it's also
in English - translated it's like this: "A thief believes
that everyone steals".
I think that's a good summary of SCO's view of the world,
including IBM, Groklaw, its own customers etc. etc. with
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- Same Slime, Different Day - Authored by: jeevesbond on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 06:24 PM EDT
- Same Slime, Different Day - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 06:24 PM EDT
- Oh, the PIPE fairy is definitely stealing from them... - Authored by: myNym on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 07:10 PM EDT
- Same Slime, Different Day - Authored by: ozbird on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 07:39 PM EDT
- Pointing fingers - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 08:08 PM EDT
- Pointing fingers - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 01:26 AM EDT
- Psychologists call it "Projection" n/t - Authored by: joef on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 08:31 PM EDT
- Similar etiology - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 09:55 PM EDT
- "Same thing, or close enough" - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 02:01 AM EDT
- Or - - Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, March 24 2007 @ 08:28 PM EDT
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 06:13 PM EDT |
I wouldn't have used the word Slime...
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Authored by: webster on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 06:26 PM EDT |
..
When you are down to 326 lines of dubiously protectible code, SCO is wise to
concentrate on their strengths.
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webster
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Authored by: TheBlueSkyRanger on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 06:27 PM EDT |
Hey, everybody!
Rather than simply complaining about this, I would like to take this opportunity
to introduce SCO and company to a fun game called, "Yeah? So?"
The rules are simple--you let someone start a rant of some kind, political,
religious, or, in this case, about the SCO lawsuits. And you prod them to
explain their point, often simply saying, "Yeah? So?"
Groklaw is hosted by ibilio.
Yeah? So?
IBM has given money to ibilio.
Yeah? So?
Groklaw is supported by IBM!
Yeah? So?
Let's go nuts here. Let's say that Groklaw is supported by SCO enemies. Aw,
heck, let's make it a block party, and say it's also powered by M$ enemies and
Sony enemies. So you have everyone from IBM and Lockheed Martin to Joe Pillow
And His Dancing Fools (the Official Obscure Amiga Joke Of The Week has been
brought to you by Penzoil) funding a site that is reporting facts.
Irrelevant.
Means nothing.
Doesn't matter who the truth is coming from, the fact is, it's the truth. It
could come from their worst enemy or the most upstanding person in the world, it
doesn't change that it's the truth, the delivery system doesn't matter. And
aaaaaaaaaaaall SCO has to do to make everyone side with them and stop taking
cheap shots is come clean. Instead of doing everything possible to make it seem
like they are trying to scam everyone, they should simply own up to their
claims. They've only had four years.
You know, I enjoy the irony that readers have to consider Groklaw's possible
connections but not SCO's.
Dobre utka,
The Blue Sky Ranger
"Could you feel your whole world fall apart and fade away?"
--Steely Dan
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 06:28 PM EDT |
And on going to the Info site, I find his article followed by a large IBM
add. What does that make Information Week?
All-in-all the article has
greatly diminished my confidence in the publication. (And I have read it for
years)
Similar to my loss of respect for Forbes.
Duratkin (not logged
in)
All good penguins love free stuff. [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 06:28 PM EDT |
It seems people use it. Hey I, sent the email. didn't get an immediate response.
Oh well I tried. Too bad if the guy was in the bathroom or at lunch. Is it
really fair to publish it without saying, Article published after 10 minutes of
waiting for a response. Hey I tried.[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Yossarian on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 06:31 PM EDT |
>Why does the mainstream press consistently push SCO's slime?
IMO the story is much larger than SCO; what we see is the
beginning of the end of mainstream press as a trust worthy
news source. Take a good look at yourself PJ, you beat most
of the mainstream press with the SCO story. Think why.
With all due respect, and I have plenty, you are not that
smarter than top journalists. The difference is that you are
not "for sell". You don't have share holders to keep happy,
a stream of ads that can go dry if you say the wrong word,
etc. You don't have much expenses, and your readers will
support you as long as you tell the truth.
Yes, you don't have the research budget of CBS news, but had
you put a story like Dan Rather did, with the fake Word
documents, then some reader would pick it up within the hour.
This is the real power of the bloggers, and the mainstream
press has no answer to that. The people who keep the top
blogs *HONEST*, for free, are more trustworthy than
journalists who are paid millions. The readers who
refuse to read a blog that published lies are better guards
than the consumers with the the TV clickers in their hands.
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- Mainstream press - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 07:14 PM EDT
- Mainstream press - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 11:59 AM EDT
- Mainstream press - Authored by: SpaceLifeForm on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 07:22 PM EDT
- Mainstream press - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 07:32 PM EDT
- The simple explanation - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 07:46 PM EDT
- His credibility just went down the tubes, just to pump some stock. nt - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 08:34 PM EDT
- Mod parent up! - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 11:49 PM EDT
- It's not the beginning. It's over. - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 03:43 AM EDT
- Mainstream press - Authored by: esni on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 08:13 AM EDT
- Blogging is to mainstream press what Open Source is to Microsoft n/t - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 09:19 AM EDT
- "Top Journalists" - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 09:27 AM EDT
- Mainstream press - Authored by: mrcreosote on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 06:30 PM EDT
- Mainstream press - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 11:00 PM EDT
- Mainstream press - Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, March 26 2007 @ 08:07 PM EDT
- Mainstream press - Authored by: grundy on Tuesday, March 27 2007 @ 03:24 AM EDT
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 06:45 PM EDT |
OK IBM is one of many many groups that funds IBIBLIO which hosts many many many
different websites.
Now lets contrast.
And SCO is directly funded by millions of dollars from Microsoft under the guise
of an "Intellectual Property Licence." Nobody can explain exactly what
that licence is for, or why it was needed, or why SCO should get the money for
"UNIX intellectual property" and not Novell when the contract says all
contract money goes to Novell and 5% goes back to SCO for being their agent....
hmmmm.
Yeesh. You want to find worms start turning over the right rocks.
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 06:56 PM EDT |
It works like this:
- SCO advertises in Information Week.
- Information week uses ad revenue to pay salaries.
- Paul McDougall's salary paid by Information Week.
Ergo, Paul McDougall is in the pay of Darl McBride and Ralph Yarro.[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 07:04 PM EDT |
I really do not care what other folks may think of groklaw or PJ.
I have said before, and i will say it again here:
I do not give a damn who PJ works for, or is paid by, (and i don't believe she
is paid by anyone for this work)
What makes me follow groklaw and this story is the sheer quality of the
journalism.
At first it was just the story, and i was looking for somewhere to read about
it. That is how it always starts with me, however, unlike a newspaper, or the to
numerous, allegedly professional news sites, groklaw kept me coming back for one
simple reason.
With every article PJ writes comes links to verifiable information that you can
check for yourself, if your not to lazy of course, and just want hits for your
advertisers.
On top of that, we get the long discussions, and picking apart at each article,
where people are encouraged to link to information that may relevant.
I suspect the more mainstream press tries to smear groklaw, the stronger it
will get, and so called professional sites most likely do it out of jelousy
because they can not be bothered to write properly informative items that people
actually want to read, and follow up on.
Thanks to all the contributors here that have written articles, and posts with
explanations and links, they have helped many people all over the world
understand what is actually going on here :)[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: John Hasler on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 07:04 PM EDT |
> Paul McDougall on Information Week with the unbiased (ha ha)
> title, "IBM Helps Fund Web Hosting For Anti-SCO Site
> Groklaw."
Doesn't Information Week accept ads from Microsoft? If so, "Microsoft
helps fund Paul McDougall".
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 07:36 PM EDT |
Paul McDougall wrote: "Groklaw, a widely read Web site that has sided with
IBM in its legal battle with The SCO Group..."
SCO has sided with biased
smearing, unfounded insinuations, false accusations, conspiracy theories and
slime... not to mention a complete lack facts to substantiate their public
screeds.
GrokLaw has sided with Truth, the GPL & FOSS. [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: seanlynch on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 07:45 PM EDT |
Groklaw was never alone.
Besides the many people who have helped here for many years there are other
sites dedicated to fud-busting.
Tuxrocks and Lamlaw come to mind.
This has been a community effort from the start.
All of us are motivated and brought together by SCO's vicious attacks on our
rights and property.
SCO's theories threaten the basis of ownership of copyrighted works. If they
win, the impact across many industries in the USA will be profound.
I amazed at how many people are willing to put short term greed above long term
economic stability.
If there is anyone to blame for the explosion of groklaw from a simple blog into
an information sharing powerhouse, it is SCO. If they had not started their
attacks, there would not have been a reason for PJ to turn her sites in their
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 08:22 PM EDT |
Did SCO really insinuate that PJ is ESR's wife? That's
hilarious... anyone have a URL?[ Reply to This | # ]
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- ESR's wife? - Authored by: PJ on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 08:59 PM EDT
- Link - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 09:19 PM EDT
- Spartacus - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 11:58 PM EDT
- Brian - Authored by: red floyd on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 02:56 AM EDT
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Authored by: kawabago on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 08:23 PM EDT |
It would seem that most journalists these days take the easy route. They also
have to write stuff that will entice people to read it, so they will
sensationalize in order to entice readers. Once I witnessed an accident, I told
a reporter exactly what happened. He took note, he had it all on tape. The
next day the story came out with a quote from me, words I never spoke. A
dramatic description of the accident. Unfortunately it wasn't what happened, I
guess the truth was just too dull. I cancelled my subscription to that
newspaper.
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Authored by: belzecue on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 08:26 PM EDT |
First thing to do, when you've read enough of a journalist's work to know, is
decide if the author writes to bring attention to themself or to their stories.
The more an author desires the former, the less significant to the subject the
author become. The anti-PJ/SCO press club contributes zero significance and a
lot of spectacle. They remind me of a bunch of court jesters who mistakenly
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Authored by: sonicfrog on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 08:28 PM EDT |
Dear PJ:
I was very distraught to learn that, on your website "Groklaw", you
used the word "slime" to describe certain actions relating to the
lawsuit software company SCO. I find the association of the
term slime with SCO very unfair and damaging to my reputation. Please reconsider
your actions, and refrain from using the term slime when discussing SCO in the
future. If this slander continues, I may have to consult with my attorneys,
Boies Schiller & Flexner, and pursue legal recourse.
Thank you for your
time.
Signed:
Slime. [ Reply to This | # ]
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- Slime ... - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 07:36 AM EDT
- Slime ... - Authored by: AndyC on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 07:49 AM EDT
- Truer than you think (OT) - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 08:21 AM EDT
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Authored by: joef on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 08:40 PM EDT |
If my memory serves, the site started out as "sunsite", then morphed
inro "meta"-something, then became "ibiblio". It's
affiliated with the U of North Carolina, it hosts a lot of folk arts projects,
and has a tremendous archive of Linux distributions. see ibiblio.org
It also hosts my favorite radio station, WCPE (wcpe.org in several streaming
formats, including ogg). It's 24/7 classical music, if that's to your liking.[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Brian S. on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 08:42 PM EDT |
InformationWeek
I see
it's part of
Techweb Business Technology Network which, at the time of writing has the
offending slime as it's story of the day.
I assume that means that the rest
of the Techweb Network will also be covered in slime.
In it's turn, I see the
Techweb Network is part of CMP
Headquartered in Manhasset, NY, CMP Technology is part of United
Business Media (www.unitedbusinessmedia.com), a
leading global provider of news distribution and specialist information services
for the professional and enthusiast markets, actively bringing buyers and
sellers together across targeted media channels—publications, events and
online.
On what a tangled web they weave. I know that Groklaw is
PJ's creation hosted on Ibiblio but just who are United Business Media? I note
that they are a PLC which means they're British and I recognise the names of
their businesses:
PR Newswire
CMP
Commonwealth Business
Media
The almost anonymous Brian S. who posts on Groklaw.
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 08:44 PM EDT |
"ibiblio" is actually IBM, and this is quite simple to prove. Just look at the
name "ibiblio". The first two letters are "ib", just like the first two letters
in "IBM". IBM has obfuscated the match by spelling "ibiblio" in lower case,
while "IBM" is in upper case. However, expert testimony has shown that the two
are functionally equivalent. This is a clear cut case of non-literal copying.
But what about the "M" vesus "iblio"? Well, sophisticated spectral analysis
shows that these too are equivalent. I realise that this may be hard for you to
understand, so I will try to keep the explanation fairly simple.
If you
take the ordinal values of the ASCII characters "iblio" and add them together,
you get 527 (105 + 98 + 108 + 105 + 111 = 527).
Now the ASCII
character set is stored in an 8 bit byte, which means we can have at most 256
ASCII characters. This means the result will have "wrapped around" a few times
(rather like an odometer in an automobile). So this means we need to correct the
result by dividing by 256 which gives us 2, with a remainder of 15 (527 / 256 =
2, remainder of 15).
Now, this remainder of 15 is very
significant. Since we are talking about the 3rd character in "IBM", we need to
first subtract 2 (programmers count from "0", not from "1"). So, 15 - 2 = 13.
Now, what is the 13th letter in the alphabet? It's "M" of course! It has simply
been hidden by obfuscation.
So, the first two letters from "ibiblio"
resolve into the first two letters of "IBM" through a simple process of
non-literal copying. The remaining letters resolve into "M" when the obfuscation
has been stripped away by spectral analysis.
So what about the so called
"Pamela Jones"? This pseudonym also falls before our relentless logic, and we
discover that Pamela Jones = Sam Palmisario! How does this
work?
Pamela Jones / Sam Palmisario. Notice the
correlations here. "Pamela" is obviously a slightly rearranged "Pamila", with
the "i" changed to "e" for further obfuscation.
"Jones" is so
obviously phony, we can discard that without further
consideration.
What about the remaining letters from "Sam
Palmisario"? Well remove "Pamila" and you are left with "Ssamrio". Even the most
cursory Google search shows a close match between "Ssamrio" and "Sanrio" (yet
more obfuscation and non-literal copying)., "Sanrio" of course, are known for
having deep, deep intellectual property rights in "Hello Kitty".
So
ladies and gentlemen, I'm not asking you to believe me. No, I'm asking you to
believe the evidence before your very eyes. Groklaw is a conspiracy perpetrated
by IBM and "Hello Kitty". They can deny it as loudly as they wish, but the
evidence I have shown above can't be refuted.
I hope the above has cleared
the air on this issue. Thank you for your time, your patience, and of course for
your $699.
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- ibiblio is IBM - Irrefutable Proof - Authored by: iceworm on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 09:18 PM EDT
- excellent post - Authored by: sumzero on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 09:28 PM EDT
- ibiblio is IBM - Irrefutable Proof - Authored by: MDT on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 09:45 PM EDT
- ibiblio is IBM - Irrefutable Proof - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 10:57 PM EDT
- Formal proof by recursion - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 03:23 AM EDT
- Absolutely astounding analsys! - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 07:41 AM EDT
- Here you go, BS&F - Authored by: tangomike on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 11:27 AM EDT
- ROTFLMAO!!! - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 01:09 PM EDT
- ibiblio is IBM - Irrefutable Proof - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 23 2007 @ 07:52 AM EDT
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 08:44 PM EDT |
“It’s better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool rather than open it
and remove all doubt.” - Mark Twain
Anon46
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 08:58 PM EDT |
> I asked McDougall for an explanation about what seems to me a pretense at
giving me an opportunity to comment. There was no immediate response to my
inquiry sent to him seeking comment for this story.
I just loved that part :-)[ Reply to This | # ]
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- Classic - Authored by: PJ on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 09:07 PM EDT
- Classic - Authored by: tce on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 12:08 AM EDT
- Classic - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 04:35 PM EDT
- Classic - Authored by: PJ on Friday, March 23 2007 @ 04:34 AM EDT
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 08:59 PM EDT |
Smack! That sound was PJ's sharp wit eviscerating the jelly belly of a lazy and
biased journalist. Give it up, guys, you can't go one round in the ring with
this lady.
This is why I love groklaw.
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Authored by: grouch on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 09:01 PM EDT |
We've had the 10Q, the Prentenderle report, a flurry of filings and now a newly
renewed conspiracy report. To me, this adds up to life support for SCOX -- they
need some publicity to create a credible reason for an infusion of cash. I
wonder if the stock price will rise sometime in the next month and some insider
stock will be sold.
--- -- grouch
http://edge-op.org/links1.html
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Authored by: Crocodile_Dundee on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 09:03 PM EDT |
he says (in part)
"[B]ut I somehow think that Pamela Jones isn't just a paralegal with
nothing better to do with her life than host a Web site called Groklaw that is
dedicated to bashing SCO. I think there is a lot more to her background and
intentions than she is willing to reveal publicly."
I think that's quite reasonable.
1) I'm sure PJ has a life to lead, just like the rest of us.
2) PJ has (by her actions) shown that she feels her health is more important
than Groklaw *claps*
3) Groklaw is certainly more than a site which bashes SCO. Groklaw doesn't bash
SCO, the facts do.
4) I'm sure there is much to PJ's background than she is willing to admit
publicly. There is no reason to want to live your life in the public eye.
*claps*
Where Blake gets it wrong is to assume IBM is behind PJ. As far as I can tell,
both SCO and IBM are in front of her, and she has her steely gaze directed at
both of them and what they do.
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That's not a law suit. *THIS* is a law suit![ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 09:20 PM EDT |
Paul McDougall can now officially be filed in the same bucket where lights like
BobE and MaureenO' reside.
Birds of a feather....[ Reply to This | # ]
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- file under... - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 03:59 AM EDT
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Authored by: SilverWave on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 09:31 PM EDT |
I remember the lighter/warmer tone of pj's early posts from before the site was
moved to ibiblio - I think groklaw was growing very fast at the time,
radiouserland then somewhere else and then ibiblio.
It was at first a very personal informal conversation, it almost seemed a
conversation between friends...
pj was a paralegal which was interesting and she brought great insights into the
SCO case...
pj's tone has gotten a little harder as the personal attacks and quite cruel
insinuations keep coming, I don't think that is surprising in the least.
But its nice to have you back pj - don't let them get you down - they really are
not worth it.
Truth will out, as sco now know to their determent.
---
Ubuntu is like a breath of fresh air after the smog.
Free yourself
Y1 Use foss apps as replacements ff tb ooo
Y2 Ubuntu dual boot
Ubuntu user as of 181206
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 09:33 PM EDT |
Hey, everyone, SCO here.
It just dawned on us that since the FLOSS community can be bought by a simple
3rd party donation to a random institution that supports FLOSS, etc, that the
quickest way through this mess is to make a donation.
So, we just donated, like, $20 bucks in the Paypal tip jar.
Therefore, you guys all work for us now, mmmKay?
So, I'd like to see all of you community leaders in on our Community Refresh
& Revamp Project Kick-off conference call, 2pm Mountain time -- call in to
555-234-2313, conference number 256334 -- please be on time. We'll start with a
bringing you up to speed on talking points for pushing our latest rev of
OpenServer (now including USB 2.0 support!), and our latest successes in court.
Once again, welcome to the Team eveyone! ::zingzing!::
Keep on rocking in SCO world,
Peace OUt,
D-man.[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: rjh on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 10:27 PM EDT |
...and that is why I've been hooked and reading Groklaw almost daily for several
years now. Its not a matter of bias here, its about the application of scrutiny,
knowledge and reason to facts.
Whenever anyone attempts to attack or impugn Groklaw, any credibility the
attacker may have had with me is lost.
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"Well, they weren't engaged in anti-competitive behavior," he added. "Except
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Authored by: hardcode57 on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 10:44 PM EDT |
I think that he's the wrong person to contact. If a journalist behaves in a way
that appears unethical, the correct person to contact is his/her editor or other
management, just as you would contact the manager of anyone else who appeared to
misbehave in the course of their employment. In this case, to their credit,
Information Week have published for-real contact info, including phone numbers,
rather than the usual web form that is read by who-knows-who. The link is at the
bottom of their pages. [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 10:51 PM EDT |
Stowell left SCOX for the up and coming Utah web analytics company Omniture
this spring.
Almost immediately after leaving SCOX, Stowell establish
business network contacts with Linux friendly journalists he had first
cultivated in Lineo days.
Stowell is also communicating with an SCO vetran
who left early in the McBride epoch and now works as enterprise sales at Red
Hat.
I think it is safe to assume that Stowell wants to put his SCOX past
behind him, and no longer drinks the moon rocket kool-aide. Whether we will
see an honest repudiation, or just forgetful slinking away from all the
falsehoods remains to be observed. [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 10:55 PM EDT |
1) the story of controversy wasn't much of a story and
2) the controversy doesn't seem like much of a story either
But, maybe I'd feel different if they were saying pitifully stupid stuff about
me.
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 11:01 PM EDT |
Why they imagine that anyone would give even a moment's credence to a periodical
that uses an editorial taxonomy that reduces Open Source stories to a subset of
their Windows section, I can't possibly fathom.
Could it be because the staff there are so indebted to Microsoft for their
livelihoods that they genuinely believe that All Our Base Really Does Belong To
Bill Gates?[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Rudisaurus on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 11:37 PM EDT |
Now look what you made me do!
I am a paralegal with nothing better
to do than Groklaw, and there is no Big Blue looming behind me. ibiblio hosts
literally thousands of websites. IBM had nothing to do with Groklaw getting
started, and we were already a force before we moved to ibiblio, and IBM had
nothing to do with ibiblio accepting Groklaw. We were accepted because we
qualified. Just because ibiblio hosts Groklaw doesn't mean I work for IBM. I
don't. And I'd like to say thank you to ibiblio for hosting
us.
This just plucks at my heartstrings -- to the extent that I
immediately felt compelled to go and make a donation to Groklaw. So I did. And I
blame you, Paul McDougal! And I recommend all other reasonably well-heeled
Groklaw adherents to do exactly the same, every time one of these scurrilous
scribblers scrapes up another semantic silliness.
Thanks a lot,
Paul!
(And welcome back, PJ -- we missed you!)[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, March 21 2007 @ 11:57 PM EDT |
Wonder what BS and company would say about that. Let's
connect the dots the
same way SCOG does.
Here we find the Board
of Directors for
Royal Bank of Canada. Notice one
Douglas T. Elix on the BOD since 2000 if I'm
reading that
page correctly.
As we see here,
RBC invested $30 million in SCOG in 2003. Later, RBC
pulled away from the deal.
Standard SCOG
supposition:
- RBC invested $30 million in SCOG
- RBC later
pulled out taking what appeared to be a
significant financial loss ($30
million in exchange for
shares dropping quickly in value) as well as passing a
portion of that loss back to Baystar.
- Conclusion: RBC simply handed
SCOG $30 million in cash
while recovering a much smaller amount of that
from third
parties.
- Conclusion: Since a member of IBM sits on the BOD
at
RBC, IBM was responsible for ensuring a cash infusion into
SCOG.
Heh, it's fun to connect things the way SCOG does in la-la
land. Well... back to reality ;)
RAS[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 12:44 AM EDT |
I am a volunteer at Project Gutenberg. PG is hosted by ibiblio and was hit by
the same RAID failures as Groklaw.
Conclusion: i am a paid IBM shill smearing SCO.[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Zarkov on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 12:49 AM EDT |
SCo's problem, and their lapdogs problem is the same as Microsofts problem..
They cannot see the wood for the trees!
In order to attack Groklaw, they think they can attack PJ. they have not yet
grasped the fact that Groklaw is like a child which while respepectful and still
very much dependent on its parent, is now quite capable of standing on its own
two feet. Harming the parent is only likely to lead to increasing the anger of
the child.
Their aim at FOSS and the GPL is similarly blinded by their own preconceptions.
The think they can suppress all opposition by frontal assaults on individuals.
That just wont work in the internet age...
In military terms it would be like fighting a conventional war against guerilla
armies... as the US discovered in Vietnam and Russia discovered in Afganistan
that kind of thinking is doomed to failure since the target wont sit still long
enough for your bombs to fall...[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: SirHumphrey on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 01:00 AM EDT |
If you take the ASCII value of the uppercase letters for IBM, you get 73, 66 and
77, totalling 216. Now adding those digits gives 9.
Repeat for PJ, and you get 80 and 74 totalling 154. Adding those digits gives
10. So you get to IBM, then PJ, so therefore IBM is behind PJ. Total proof.
But wait there's more, much more.
SCO is 83, 67, 69, totalling 229, and that gives 13, so PJ is actually behind
SCO. Imagine that!!! SCO is actually a front for PJ!!!!!.
Now for the clincher. MS is 77 and 83 = 160, giving 7. Even better, M$ is 77+36
= 113, giving 5.
So MS/M$ is behind this whole thing.
So SCO are fronting for PJ, who is fronting for IBM, who are fronting for
MS/M$.
Case CLOSED.
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 03:43 AM EDT |
It was not inaccurate, but it did not seem to have a point. [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: hagge on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 05:25 AM EDT |
PJ, just ask this so-called journalist, if he ever took the time to actually
read at least a few of the motions, responses and transcripts currently coming
in. Just to build a more educated base of information, *before* making his
"conclusions".
Because I'm sure whoever really reads all the stuff, can't be seriously thinking
that SCO has any real argument on their side. Some things are just plain silly.
I read Groklaw on a regular basis because currently it is more fun to read than
the traditional humorous sites. Just to see how SCO tries to delay another few
days, how they try to get the judges to reconsider for the third, fourth time,
that's just hilarious. And all this with the pleasent anticipation for the big
bang when SCO gets the bill. Fiction can never beat real life stories like
this.
Hagge[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 06:49 AM EDT |
I love these kind of articles.
Familiar handwriting ? Here we go:
1. IBM funds ibiblio among many others. But that is not relevant, IBM is the
crucial part and ibiblio would not work without IBM (sounds like the 326 lines
and STREAMS argument).
2. Groklaw is hosted on ibiblio. No matter what the historical process was to
get Groklaw on ibiblio, the fact is Groklaw is now on ibiblio is the only thing
that matters (sound familiar with the SYVRX contract history).
3. Groklaw is hosted on ibiblio, ibiblio is funded by IBM, conclusion is Groklaw
is funded by IBM (guilt by association contract theory).
You see we have all the elements of SCO vs. IBM summed up in one short article.
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Authored by: globularity on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 07:12 AM EDT |
You can't get more anti SCO than Darl Mcbride, A person whose main business
strategy is an ill concieved scam, I really can't believe their board sat back
and watched this happen, there again management and the board often put their
own interests before the companies as long as they get their
"performance" bonuses.
Mark
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Windows vista, a marriage between operating system and trojan horse.[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous Coward on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 07:45 AM EDT |
If you still have your old articles of when you started Groklaw place those back
on the site seeing that you had several posts already before you wrote the SCO
falls down the stairs post.[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 07:45 AM EDT |
Everyone knows Apple has a patent on names that begin with " i " --
including the pronoun itself. So, Apple owns everyone!
So, ibiblio and iBM are Apple subsidiaries. What's so complicated about that?
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Authored by: ka1axy on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 07:54 AM EDT |
...actually, it's almost true -- there's a good deal of legal paperwork
published on Groklaw, and tSCOg seems to want to file theirs mostly under seal,
so the stuff written by IBM's lawyers is all we get to see!
Seriously, the article is almost sad in its transparency. You'd think the
author would have made a bit more of an effort, instead of just printing tSCOg's
rant verbatim. Like, oh, I don't know, actually holding an email conversation
with PJ? Or asking her to call him on the phone? Or mentioning that tSCOg's
claims are a bit of a reach? Or that they are known for claiming that Linux
users need to buy a license from them?
The reason I read Groklaw, is not for the opinions (though they are
interesting), but for a glimpse into the legal process and how tSCOg's claims
are rebutted by IBM. Because while I don't *know* for a fact that Linux didn't
steal tSCOg's valuable intellectual property, I have deep suspicions that this
has been a scam from the start, and I'd like to see the "litigious
boys" get their come-uppance.
I think the best quote was from the guy at ibiblio, wo said that they have
requirements for hosting, and Groklaw meets the requirements. And if ibiblio is
the former sunsite, that's where I downloaded my early distributions of Linux,
so good for them!
Peter
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Authored by: seantellis on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 08:06 AM EDT |
Like Appendix E, this is another example of a fact diluted beyond any kind of
significance, being used to shore up a shoddy hypothesis.
Ergo, Homeopathic IP.
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Sean Ellis (groklaw@moteprime.remove-this.org)[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 08:08 AM EDT |
Well, they pay their taxes don't they... [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 08:12 AM EDT |
Amo Pamela Jones. Simul es ac
Samuel James Palmisano (CEO).
The first line is an anagram of the second. The Latin
phrase means "I love Pamela Jones. You are at
the same time also Samuel James Palmisano (CEO)."
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Authored by: fresont on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 09:36 AM EDT |
I can't help but think that if the tables were turned, PJ would not be so
dismissive. If SCO was using a web hosting service that was indirectly
supported by MS, we would hear all kinds of accusations and inuendo about MS
funding SCO's campaign. The whole bit about KPMG a while back comes to mind.[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: emacsuser on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 09:45 AM EDT |
'Early last year, Microsoft agreed it would pay
SCO an eyebrow-raising sum, as much as $16 million .. Later, Microsoft
executives brought SCO to the attention of a venture fund, BayStar Capital,
which ended up putting together investments in SCO totaling $50
million'
'BusinessWeek has learned that Microsoft (MSFT ) did not put
up the money, but did play matchmaker for SCO Group (SCOX ) and BayStar Capital, a San Francisco hedge fund which made a $50
million investment in SCO last October'
informationweek.com ..
Companion Publications .. Information week is part of the TechWeb business
technology network. Information Week is published by CMP .. Headquartered in
Manhasset, NY, CMP Technology is part of United Business Media
(www.unitedbusinessmedia.com)
'United Business Media acquisition of
leading websites for Microsoft developers'
'04 April
2005'
'United Business Media's CM
P Media division today announced that it had acquired DotNetJunkies.com and
SqlJunkies.com, leading independent online communities for developers using the
Microsoft.NET Framework and those building solutions using Microsoft SQL Server
respectively.'
'CMP Media and Microsoft Corporation launched MSDN
Magazine, to software developers in the Asia-Pacific region.'[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: hamstring on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 10:11 AM EDT |
While I agree with what was said, we know that MSM will not die for a long time.
This is mostly due to the fact that the majority of people in the world today
are ignorant, and are very content to stay that way.
This is a socialogical fact, and a very sad one. Ask yourself though, who gets
more attention? An educated well mannered person who can hold a conversation and
portray rational thoughts? Or a blathering idiot?
All you have to do is look at TV ratings to know the answer. Put Rosie O. and
Opra's ratings against any show with educational value (even the reality type
shows on an educational channel) and look who wins by a landslide.
Martha Steward did not have a large viewer base until she became a criminal.
Rachael Ray was unknown until the MSM's reported on her boyfriends sexual
habits.
Anna Nichole Smith was plagued by media until the day she died, daily photos of
her in all her idiocy were visible in numerous magazines, TV shows, etc...
When is the last time you saw a photo of a Nobel prize winner? When is the last
time you heard a person 15-20 years old compliment a band member by "wow,
that guy really plays a mean guitar". When is the last time you heard
someone say "I like to listen to that person, they are very smart"?
Until society demands better we will continue to see read and hear what the
majority wants to hear. To many of us, it's garbage.. but we are the minority
in society.
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* Necessity is the mother of invention. Microsoft is
* result of greed[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: stats_for_all on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 10:32 AM EDT |
March Blog Post details SCOX pressure on journalists
Alan Zeichick of
SD Times issued a plain, simple and direct appeal to fire Darl McBride in
2006.
Blake Stowell replied by bringing pressure on a SD Advertising sales
representative.
"....when SD Times puts out an article like this at
the very time that we are looking to possibly do something to market to the
developers that subscribe to your publication, it seems EXTREMELY
counter-intuitive for us to do ANYTHING at all with SD Times. Any campaign we
might do with your readership would fall on deaf ears and be a complete waste of
our money after an editorial like this one."
The SD ad sales
rep had the intestinal fortitude to tell Stowell to forget such a ill advised
threat.
The next communication was from another SCOX employee....(from the
Zeichick blog post)
The follow-up came from another person with
SCO. This person is not named because he's still at SCO; Blake left a few months
ago:
"My challenge as director of SCO Marketing is that I’m
ready to launch a significant campaign and had the SD Times at the top of our
list for an integrated campaign. While the previous coverage is appreciated,
what is seared in minds here is the latest message from your magazine and it has
made it a VERY hard sell for me to convince executive management to let me use
SD Times, even though it is probably the best vehicle for me to use. To have a
magazine call for the removal of our CEO makes my job a whole lot harder
internally and externally. At this point, I’ve been told to look at several
other alternatives.""
Zeichik is much too
circumspect about naming names....it is an very easy google search to
demonstrate that the name Craig Bushman is associated with "director of
SCO [Product] Marketing". We should assume that it is Bushman who wrote the
second message threatening a ad pull unless editorial toed the SCOX
line.
Not surprisingly, Bushman is deputy to the notorious Erik Hughes
( treycc for the Y-initiate].
Hughes gushes over his clumsy
deputy blackmailer:
Craig has tremendous experience and
knowledge of the product marketing process that enables him to launch products
quickly and efficiently. Craig also has a keen sense of priority and leads his
team well in addressing areas that are most needed by the business. A very smart
and driven employee, I highly recommend. November 2, 2004
Of
course, Craig returns the love to his boss:
Erik is a
tremendous asset of The SCO Group. He's keen sense of business direction and
technical ability has made him an invaluable resource to executive management
and respected in both the technical and marketing sides of the business. I
highly recommend Erik as a strong asset to any organization. November 2, 2004
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 10:49 AM EDT |
http://www.bravegnuworld.org
And it was long there before the Obarak-clone... ;-)[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: twenex on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 12:23 PM EDT |
Hi Pamela, nice to see you back. Love the site! [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 12:56 PM EDT |
Samuel J. Palmisano, CEO -> SCO, I'm Pamela "Ula" Jones.
Notice that even the period and comma remain intact. Is your middle name
"Ula", PJ? ;-)
--PJE[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 12:57 PM EDT |
Or is somebody just getting an early start? [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: ThrPilgrim on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 01:28 PM EDT |
I was wondering if SCO or any of it's predicessors have ever funded ibiblio or
any of it's predicessors?[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: tknarr on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 01:59 PM EDT |
On the timestamp, given the way e-mail works it's entirely possible that he
may have sent it at 10:30am but it didn't arrive in your mailbox until several
hours later. The Received headers will tell the tale, whether the delay
was in his outgoing system, your ISP or the normal delay waiting for the next
time your client pulls mail down.
I will say that an hour and a half is
in no way sufficient time when it comes to e-mail delivery. With all the virus
scanning and filtering and then just the normal delays due to server loads,
anything from near-instantaneous to 24 hours is "normal" for e-mail. If you need
better than same-day service, IM or the telephone will get it but e-mail won't.
Giving 90 minutes on e-mail is like phoning someone, giving it only one ring
before hanging up and then saying "We called them to get their response, but
they didn't answer.". [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Michelle Readman on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 02:32 PM EDT |
Society of professional journalists
code of conduct
I can't find a code of conduct for asking for
comments, but I am certain that one has to exist, and he must have broken it. PJ
was given a paltry 90 minutes window for reply on a request sent via a medium
with no proof of receipt or guarentee on deliverly time.
That's like
phoning someone for comments and hanging up after two rings. It's not even
bothering to give people a fair chance.
Heck, enough FUD has been flung
at PJ that I'm hoping that some legal recourse exists for her.[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: rjamestaylor on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 02:34 PM EDT |
There are all kinds of timestamps from various servers in the full headers of
any
given email. Post them, PJ, and we'll tell you when he sent the email.
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SCO delenda est! Salt their fields![ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 02:58 PM EDT |
>I heard from McDougall. He says the time stamp on his email is wrong. He
sent the email, he says, at 10:30 AM and the story was published at noon.
Funny, how the clocks across the whole internet seems to be two hours off. Oh,
well, blame it on DST and Microsoft. It couldn't be someone lying through forked
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 03:00 PM EDT |
It's obvious!
IBM pays for ads in Information Week. Paul McDougall attacks GrokLaw and PJ in
the articles he writes for IW.
Ergo, IBM is attacking PJ.
Remember, PJ, "Illegitimi non carborundum" which, roughly paraphrased,
means "Noli nothis permittere te terere."[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: spectrum on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 03:19 PM EDT |
Update 2: I heard from McDougall. He says the time stamp on
his email is wrong. He sent the email, he says, at 10:30 AM and the story was
published at noon.
But, what do your "Received:" headers say?
Every server the message passes through will stamp the time on it.
Just playing the devil's advocate.. :)
--- dave. [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: billyskank on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 03:48 PM EDT |
Well, that's alright then.
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It's not the software that's free; it's you.[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 04:05 PM EDT |
Update 2: I heard from McDougall. He says the time stamp on his
email is wrong. He sent the email, he says, at 10:30 AM and the story was
published at noon.
Assuming the times are correct, an hour and a
half for delivery of an e-mail is not very long. If it is being sent from an
office, It could easily sit in their server that long before being pushed out
(some e-mail systems work that way). Likely, the "request for comment" was just
a formality; he had a publishable story without your reply.
Secondly and more
significantly, the story was "published" at noon. However, when was it put in
the story queue? 10:31am? He had a story deadline to meet. The last thing he
needs is for you to come back with a reply when he already has enough material.
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Authored by: gvc on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 04:29 PM EDT |
PJ,
I assume you use something like Thunderbird to read mail. If you go to
view->message-source you can find when the message arrived at various mail
servers. The top one will be you ISP and I presume you can trust its timestamp.
As you read down you will see the dates that it was delivered en route to your
machine. Of course those dates could be wrong but more than likely they'll all
be consistent and show the delivery path (with times) of your mail.
The 'Date' field in the message itself says not much at all -- just what the
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- Time stamps - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 05:50 PM EDT
- Time stamps - Authored by: PJ on Friday, March 23 2007 @ 03:58 AM EDT
- Email fun with Paul - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 06:54 PM EDT
- Time stamps - Authored by: Wardo on Friday, March 23 2007 @ 12:04 PM EDT
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Authored by: sleadley on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 05:42 PM EDT |
The assertion that PJ works for IBM is irrational, predictable and
powerful.
It's irrational because it depends on the same principle of
sympathetic magic as the charge that JFS contains SCO IP. By the law of
contagion, IBM touched System V, which belongs to SCO, then IBM touched JFS ...
therefore SCO owns JFS. Again, IBM contributed to ibiblio, then ibiblio hosted
Groklaw, which is PJ's blog, ... therefore IBM owns PJ.
It's
predictable because magical thinking keeps cropping up again and again in SCO's
filings and public utterances.
SCO's pet gossips go along with it
because guilt-by-association rumors are juicy, truth (or even its journalist
shadow, fact checking) be damned.
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Authored by: BobinAlaska on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 06:49 PM EDT |
IBM has issued a comment on the story:
Clicky
Sorry if this has been posted before. --- Bob Helm, Juneau,
Alaska
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Authored by: Observer on Thursday, March 22 2007 @ 09:46 PM EDT |
Ah, but a line like, "IBM Sponsorship of UNC Site Predates Groklaw" doesn't make
for snappy headlines, or sell advertising clicks!
--- The Observer [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: gjleger on Friday, March 23 2007 @ 07:58 PM EDT |
Update 2: I heard from McDougall. He says the time stamp on his email is wrong.
He sent the email, he says, at 10:30 AM and the story was published at noon.
ROFLMAO ! He gave you a whole hour and a half to answer.... If he is telling
the truth of course...
Wow... I was in a meeting from 2 PM to 4 PM ... good thing he was not emailing
me.
/sarcasm
He sure gave you LOTS of time to answer something important like that. I mean
you should to be able to answer any email with at least 30 minute notice.
/end sarcasm
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Authored by: dinotrac on Saturday, March 24 2007 @ 09:45 AM EDT |
Lady Pamela -
The attack is completely fair, even if it is idiotic.
We do much the same thing when we sneer at TCO reports, etc
that are funded by Microsoft.
Fair and advisable, however, are two different things.
As you point out, the claim of bias doesn't hold up under
scrutiny. The tie, in fact, is so weak as to paint the
writer as (choose one):
a: Moronic
b: Paid for
c: Desperately in search of clicks
d: All of the above.
Keep up the good work. And, forget ye not, accusations so
demonstrably stupid are more effectively raised with sharp
humor than raised dander. Kudos to your posters for
ibiblio = IBM.
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The truth sucks, but it beats the alternatives[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Wesley_Parish on Monday, March 26 2007 @ 11:38 PM EDT |
I wrote the editor of Information Week an email, giving the Groklaw history
as I had experienced it. Also pointing out that the one thing you don't do, PJ,
is come across as a corporate persona. (I have met IBM and Microsoft people,
and there is a definite corporate persona - you can see it in blog entries, some
things not discussed, some things mentioned in passing, some things focused on;
but things have improved from the early nineties, when one IBMer I heard talking
about OS/2 completely missed the point, that talking about it and saying it was
good was all very well, but we wanted some action. Eg, don't count on past
successes.)
Again, for what little it's worth, I also mentioned how IBM
seems to be Microsoft's bugbear on the ODF versus the MS OO XML front; they seem
quite paranoid about IBM, while ignoring Sun entirely. I mentioned having joked
on a blog somewhere or other about not having received any payments from IBM for
be vocal in my support of the ODF file format. Again, FWLIW, I had added,
after moaning about not receiving my drone payments from IBM, those dread words:
/* You are not expected to understand this. */ the point
being that people that paranoid generally no longer have a sense of
humour.
I wonder if Microsoft are now going to complain to IBM that I
haven't been paid? ;) They're not all that stupid, but the corporate
drones are there in force, just as they were in IBM way back
when. --- finagement: The Vampire's veins and Pacific torturers
stretching back through his own season. Well, cutting like a child on one of
these states of view, I duck [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: grundy on Tuesday, March 27 2007 @ 05:12 AM EDT |
I just now read the "same slime" and noted that he seems to have two side
targets: IBM for underhanded support and the blog for bias. Which would
implicate M$ => IBM and magazines => blogs as supporting the SCO
=> PJ. Microsoft is on a tear badmouthing IBM. [ Reply to This | # ]
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