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SCO Is Still Distributing ELF, Part 3 & Teleconference from SCOforum Today - Updated
Monday, August 07 2006 @ 08:31 AM EDT

Somehow it will not surprise you to learn that I've heard that SCO is still distributing the same binutils package, with ELF in it, under the GPL, that we told you about yesterday, but from an additional FTP site. This one is at ftp://ftp.sco.co.jp .

Yesterday, we told you about ftp.sco.com/pub/openserver5/opensrc/source/gnutools-5.0.7Kj-SRC.tar.bz2. We provide this information as a public service, in case they wish to swallow the evidence.

Oh, and they've announced some sort of a partnership deal with Microsoft:

The SCO Group, Inc. today announced that it will ship the EdgeBuilder Mobile Application Development (MAD) Toolkit as a plug-in to Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 providing greater ease for Microsoft .NET Framework-based developers to create and deploy rich mobile applications and services on SCO's EdgeClick Mobile Development platform. SCO has also joined the Microsoft VSIP program as a Premier Partner enhancing the value for SCO developers.

"We are pleased to work with Microsoft as the integration of the respective technologies in the MAD Toolkit gives developers a set of tools they need to quickly and easily build custom mobile applications for the EdgeClick mobile platform with little inherent learning curve," said Darl McBride, president and CEO, The SCO Group. "Combining Visual Studio 2005 and the MAD Toolkit will help developers to create feature rich mobile services that integrate with enterprise environments."

Surprise. Surprise. So, a MAD Toolkit. That's a good name choice, don't you think? Hard to forget. Somehow appropriate.

They certainly have no sense of irony, this company Microsoft wishes to partner with.

And their teleconference from SCOforum is today at 3:30 EDT, at which time SCO will announce this wonderful "new" partnership, along with others.

Here's what you'll get to see if you watch:

SCO Press and Analyst Teleconference from SCO Forum:

Company executives will participate in announcements and answer questions regarding:

* Strategic partnership to provide mobile Day-Timer applications
* Licensing of Microsoft Visual Studio and membership in Microsoft's Visual Studio Industry Partner program
* Development of mobile services for Palm Treo 700w and Treo 700p smartphones
* Development of HipCheck mobile services for remote control and monitoring of UNIX and Windows systems and desktop clients, including Windows Vista

Who:

Darl McBride, President and CEO
Bert Young, CFO
Sandy Gupta, CTO and GM, SCO Platforms
Chris Sontag, SVP and GM, Me Inc. Mobile Services Division
Jeff Hunsaker, SVP of Worldwide Sales
Erik Hughes, Sr. Director, Product Management & Business Development
Andy Nagle, Sr. Manager, EdgeClick Mobile Services Platform

I know. I can hardly contain my excitement myself. Since they are accepting questions, maybe they'll answer this one: why are you claiming you never distributed binutils under the GPL when we are finding it all over the Internet three+ years after you sued IBM?

Oh, and here's SCO's announcement about HipCheck, another wonderful name for yet another wonderful SCO product the big boys like Siemens think they might not be able to live without:

HipCheck allows sys admins to set and track specific system parameters and thresholds for various server and desktop functions. HipCheck provides alerts and allows system administrators to remotely perform tasks to their systems through their Windows Mobile smartphone or Windows PC. Alerts are provided through an SMS message to mobile devices or through an e-mail to desktop systems.

"As part of our overall strategy to maximize availability and profitability, we are currently evaluating SCO's HipCheck," said Detlef Fischer, head of research and development, Instrumentation & Controls, Siemens Power Generation in Erlangen, Germany. "Following the first successful tests we see great potential in SCO's mobile technologies that will enable us to provide the right information, to the right people, anytime, anywhere. In particular delivering key information in real-time to our service staff via mobile devices, will greatly benefit our customer service level."

So, I guess no more PIPE Fairy. Is Microsoft innovating again? No doubt Microsoft and lots of its buddies need all those fabulous features from a mobile phone that can do instant messaging (what a concept!) that they can't get from anybody but SCO. Is that a lucky break for SCO, or what?

UPDATE 2: For those of you who thought I'd missed the boat and that this "partnership" was merely SCO paying Microsoft for some PR, and nothing from Microsoft for SCO, I give you the horse's mouth:

SCO aims to tap into its sizable base of Unix VARs and customers as well as Microsoft's vast army of resellers to drive Me Inc. services and the EdgeClick platform, McBride said.

See? I told you. I have a nose for this stuff. I've written at least an article every day but three since May 2003 about SCO. I know their funny little ways. That article also tells us about their finances:

SCO's revenue has fallen to roughly $7 million per quarter, a third of what it was in 2001. McBride acknowledged that Unix is a declining business for the company, yet it will continue to upgrade its code and support new customers.

UPDATE: There is also this announcement, written in marketspeak:

The SCO Group, Inc. ("SCO") (Nasdaq: SCOX), today announced it has entered into a strategic business partnership with Day-Timers, Inc. to develop, market, merchandise, and support a suite of Day-Timer(R) branded mobile automation solutions. Code-named DT4, these solutions extend time management, calendaring, and task management through integrating Me Inc. Shout, Vote, and other services. DT4 will introduce a "Day in a Life" automation for personal and professional tasks and will offer custom solutions for verticals markets such as lawyers, doctors, real estate agents, and insurance agents for both mobile and PC clients. This rich integration of products will benefit customers by enabling them to organize their lives with a complete mobile solution.

"We anticipate DT4 to be the next killer application for mobile phones. We've been working on mobile solutions for three years and together with Day-Timers, we're going to change the rules for how individuals and groups automate the sharing and accessing of information from wherever they are," said Darl McBride, president and CEO, The SCO Group. "According to In-Stat, the worldwide sales of wireless handsets will grow to 1.9 billion units by the year 2011. With DT4 and other Me Inc. mobile services, we are tapping into this growing market and putting powerful computing into the hands of individuals and businesses."

SCO has been working on mobile solutions for *three* years? Hmm. The Salt Lake Tribune translates into English:

From Las Vegas, where the annual SCO Forum was under way, the Lindon-based software company announced it will team with Day-Timers Inc. to develop, market and support a suite of mobile data applications.

Dubbed DT4, SCO will extend time management, calendaring and task management to Day-Timers customers through special versions of its Me Inc. services. DT4 tools will especially target lawyers, doctors, real estate and insurance agents, said SCO President and CEO Darl McBride. - Bob Mims


  


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Corrections Here
Authored by: feldegast on Monday, August 07 2006 @ 09:04 AM EDT
So they can be found

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License Attribution-Noncommercial 2.0
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Off Topic
Authored by: feldegast on Monday, August 07 2006 @ 09:08 AM EDT
For Off Topic posts, please make links clickable
Post in HTML to make links work and please preview posts

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License Attribution-Noncommercial 2.0
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Would you like fries with that?
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 07 2006 @ 09:30 AM EDT
Or is this case..
Would you like cash with that?

Does this 'partnership' involve a cash flow from M$ to tSCOWg or is it a stock
pump only plan?

Groklaw needs a page dedicated to innovative ways of M$ funnelling money into
tSCOg. I would bet that even if we came up with 100 innovative ways to pump this
FUDmeister, they would come up with method number 101.

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Tim Negris is gone ? ? ? ?
Authored by: stats_for_all on Monday, August 07 2006 @ 09:44 AM EDT
In February, Tim Negris was apointed SVP in Sales and Marketing. The Teleconference participants reallign the positions, and Negris is not listed. Specifically, old SCOX hand Sontag shifts from SCOSource to the SCOMe venture.

Why would they have a big marketing call, and leave the SVP for Marketing off the list?

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If MAD is a Visual Studio plugin...
Authored by: Jude on Monday, August 07 2006 @ 09:46 AM EDT
... doesn't that make Visual Studio a "derived work" to which SCO can
claim rights?

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That's Appropriate...
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 07 2006 @ 10:01 AM EDT
In military circles, MAD is an acronym for "Mutually Assured
Destruction"....

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There's a new fairy on the block
Authored by: Stumbles on Monday, August 07 2006 @ 10:13 AM EDT
I'm glad Microsoft and SCO has realized the pipe fairy has run her, his, it's
course and no longer useful. Like Tinkerbell dropping little sprinklies as
she flies along the pipe fairy had a nasty habit of doing the same thing. In
all with pipe fairy dropping the equivalent of dollar bills as sprinklies, it
was
rather easy to trace the vapor trail.

So now we have the MAD fairy. Now everything is "up front", nice and
neat ,wrapped in the blanket of, "Hey, it's just business. We have a
product, etc, etc".

How opportunistic SCO just happens to have a product that Microsoft
needs. And of all things coming from a "Unix" company. How odd.

Yes I am rather suspicious of this whole deal.

---
You can tuna piano but you can't tune a fish.

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SCO Is Still Distributing ELF, Part 3 & Teleconference from SCOforum Today
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 07 2006 @ 10:36 AM EDT
VSIP is Microsoft's program for companies who write add-ons for Microsoft Visual
Studio

Microsoft Visual Studio is the Integrated Development Environment (IDE) package
in which most of Microsoft's development tools work (Visual C++, etc.)

There are about 240 companies in the VSIP program.

Joining it basically requires giving Microsoft some money (about $3,000 minimum
I think), and developing a product compatible (Like an add-on) to Visual Studio.
SCO's MAD product sounds like exactly that type of add-on. In return for your
money if you VSIP, you get your name in a catalog, possibly linked from
Microsoft web site, and if you're lucky a plaque.

All the stuff about sharing info with Microsoft in the VSIP program is just a
bunch of balloney. The tools VSIPs use, are available to all Microsoft-based
developers.

Oh, and the program was launched in 1999, so SCO are late, very late to the
party.

I suspect what inspired SCO to join, is their new found friendship with MySQL.
MySQL joined the VSIP in June 2006.

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SCO Is Still Distributing ELF, Part 3 & Teleconference from SCOforum Today
Authored by: eggplant37 on Monday, August 07 2006 @ 10:53 AM EDT
date
Mon Aug 7 10:42:43 EDT 2006

wget
ftp://ftp.sco.co.jp/pub/openserver5/opensrc/source/gnutools-5.0.7Kj-SRC.tar.bz2
--10:43:03--
ftp://ftp.sco.co.jp/pub/openserver5/opensrc/source/gnutools-5.0.7Kj-SRC.tar.bz2
=> `gnutools-5.0.7Kj-SRC.tar.bz2'
Resolving ftp.sco.co.jp... 202.33.8.84
Connecting to ftp.sco.co.jp[202.33.8.84]:21... connected.
Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in!
==> SYST ... done. ==> PWD ... done.
==> TYPE I ... done. ==> CWD /pub/openserver5/opensrc/source ... done.
==> PASV ... done. ==> RETR gnutools-5.0.7Kj-SRC.tar.bz2 ... done.
Length: 65,064,908 (unauthoritative)

100%[====================================>] 65,064,908 122.23K/s ETA
00:00

10:51:45 (122.24 KB/s) - `gnutools-5.0.7Kj-SRC.tar.bz2' saved [65,064,908]

date
Mon Aug 7 10:51:46 EDT 2006

ls -l gnutools-5.0.7Kj-SRC.tar.bz2
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 65064908 Aug 7 10:51 gnutools-5.0.7Kj-SRC.tar.bz2

date
Mon Aug 7 10:51:57 EDT 2006

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Palm Treo 700[w,p] smartphones
Authored by: LegalIdiot on Monday, August 07 2006 @ 10:57 AM EDT
From MS's point of view this is probably a way to gain some control over the Palm OS market. SCOg would just happen to be a small fry in the way to MS dominating yet another OS competitor. I hope SCOg can keep from being put under by MS, or maybe thats the plan all along? Can MS destroy SCOg as a corp before the jury trial can even begin? From MS's point of view this is simply a case of two (OS company) birds in one bush I suppose.

Q: How could this be played out to help SCOg's executives stay out of jail?

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SCO will never run out of money
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 07 2006 @ 11:09 AM EDT

they've announced some sort of a partnership deal with Microsoft

What this means is that SCO will never run out of money. Its lawsuit will continue until either all the claims are dismissed, or the trial ends. There was a chance that SCO would simply burn all its remaining capital within about a year, then cease to exist. That isn't going to happen. Microsoft will get money to them, by whatever "partnerships", "licensing deals" etc.

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HipCheck - a medical procedure
Authored by: The Cornishman on Monday, August 07 2006 @ 11:36 AM EDT
Appropriately undertaken when you think you may have had your posterior sued
off.

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(c) assigned to PJ

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Meanwhile in the Real Battle for Open Source
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 07 2006 @ 11:50 AM EDT
"Observe the indigenous RIAA in its native environment. Fresh off a kill, its thoughts to turn immediately to its next meal... thus the woolly tusked RIAA embodies the cycle of life. And so it begins again. Just days after Kazaa settled with the MPAA, the International Federation of Phonographic Industries (IFPI), and the RIAA, the music labels are after another P2P application: LimeWire." ars technica, The Register, News Links. Apologies for cross-posting - giafly.

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SCO are thrashing
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 07 2006 @ 12:32 PM EDT

There's a stage at the end of a company's life when it starts to thrash about, looking for any project to rescue it. All sorts of interesting stuff gets flung about to see what sticks.

Thus I suspect that HipCheck is a former internal sysadmin tool, which does something like the usual combination of Nagios plus Gnokii. And what a weak annoucement -- "currently evaluating"! So haven't they sold even one?

Another aspect of the company death process is the "CEO as Saviour". The CEO will take his pet project and often bet the company on it. I see Darl's hand in "Strategic partnership to provide mobile Day-Timer applications".

You've to to admire the sheer front of these people. Promoting "Licensing of Microsoft Visual Studio and membership in Microsoft's Visual Studio Industry Partner program". Let me give you a hint -- a partnership doesn't involve you paying the other "partner". Outside of Microsoft Land that's called "being a customer".

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A partnership deal with Microsoft
Authored by: Nice Kitty on Monday, August 07 2006 @ 12:52 PM EDT
Can anyone (else) say "A large financial contribution"?

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More Microsoft innovation ??!?
Authored by: artp on Monday, August 07 2006 @ 01:18 PM EDT
Hipcheck ?

Sysadmins have been doing this for years.

I remember attending an HP class for their monitoring software (OpenView) in
1998. At that time, they could monitor HPUX, Solaris and Microsoft Windows
systems. Alerts based on prioritized, time-sequenced alarms could be sent to a
cell phone, pager or text-messaging device. Their MPE version of OpenView was
doing the phone/pager when I first ran into it in 1990.

In 1996, while working for a corporate client, I used a home-brew alert system
that would send alerts to -- a cell phone, pager or text-messaging device.

The trick in monitoring devices is to determine which alarm was the first to
trigger the sequence of events. This was an important topic of research back in
the late 70's in industrial control systems. When alarms went off in a chemical
plant, they rarely stayed isolated. The whole plant would go into alarm. That
wasn't useful at all. What was the triggering event?

It was nice to see HP connect this research to computer monitoring in the
1990's. There isn't any mention of this capability in the brief excerpt PJ
posted, and I don't generally click through to Microsoft stuff.

Anyway, this looks about as innovative as selling composted cow manure as plant
growth hormone.

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Siemens rep gave testimonial at 2004 forum
Authored by: stats_for_all on Monday, August 07 2006 @ 01:25 PM EDT
The Siemens rep talking about the HipCheck app, was previously featured at a 2004 Forum customer testimonial.

Detlef Fischer see 2004 Forum slides. Program downloadable here

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"Oh, and they've announced some sort of a partnership deal with Microsoft"...
Authored by: Steve Martin on Monday, August 07 2006 @ 01:32 PM EDT
Darn it, there went another keyboard!


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"When I say something, I put my name next to it." -- Isaac Jaffee, "Sports
Night"

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HIPclick
Authored by: Nick_UK on Monday, August 07 2006 @ 02:21 PM EDT
"Following the first successful tests we see great
potential in SCO's mobile technologies that will enable us
to provide the right information, to the right people,
anytime, anywhere."

Perhaps they could get SCO ftp administrators
using 'HIPclick' so they know where all these files are
available for download.

Nick

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Siemens Connection
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 07 2006 @ 02:56 PM EDT
A quote from a Siemens representative was given as the first (and presumably most impressive) customer endorsement for "Hipcheck". I thought it would be worth while looking at what Siemens actually does with SCO Unix.

Siemens sold a number of industrial systems (including power plant SCADA) which used SCO Unix. All references to SCO in Siemens literature seem to be either old sales literature, or are for support of older systems.

I suspect that "HipCheck" is being considered as an offering for existing customers still running old software systems ("considered" - as there is no actual sale yet). The Teleperm XP system is quite old (the 'XP' has nothing to do with MS-Windows and long pre-dates it). Industrial customers don't upgrade running systems and will use them without change as long as they can get repair hardware for them. Training course references talk about interacting with SCO Unix using the command line or VI - no mention of using a GUI.

If you look at any Siemens offerings that support SCO Unix, this is just one OS option. The other supported OS options were Linux, HP-UX, Solaris, various other brands of Unix, Windows NT 4, and occasionally MS-DOS and MS-Windows 3.x.

In other words, this appears to be strictly done as support for some older installations. I doubt that any of these customers are installing new SCO systems. If this is the best endorsement SCO can come up with, their Unix business is indeed in dire straits.

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I hope they signed a contract with Microsoft
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 07 2006 @ 03:20 PM EDT
... Since contracts are what you need to sue people.

Microsoft is next to be sued by SCO!!! :^)

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There goes one theory!
Authored by: sonicfrog on Monday, August 07 2006 @ 03:26 PM EDT
I thought SCO would get bought out by HP, who, by virtue of their good standing
in the linux community, would then be able to cut deals and settle with all the
SCO litigants, and bring peace and harmony to the world. But that would require
the dismantling of SCO as we know it (God that's a happy thought) and for Daryl
to be kicked out onto the streets.

Now we have, theoretically, M$ buying SCO. That would give Daryl and SCO safe(r)
haven, OK, maybe not Daryl, but wouldn't SCO have to abandon its Unix business,
as per the agreements with Novell before a buy-out could occur --- not that
SCO is big into honoring contracts or anything!

Maybe M$ could use some of SCO's Caldera development team to help make Vista
more stable and secure.... Oh, Yeah! Forgot. There IS no Caldera development
team anymore! One of the saddest things about this whole fiaSCO is that Caldera
was a pretty good distro before SCO killed it.

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SCO Is Still Distributing ELF, Part 3 & Teleconference from SCOforum Today
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 07 2006 @ 03:29 PM EDT
SCO houses Microsofts new little-cardboard-box-datacenter in SCO's new
big-cardboard-box-hosting facility for a modest fee suprisingly big enough to
cover their linux related litigation expenses.

Atleast Darl will have an "apartment" when Novell are through with
him.

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Teleconference from SCOforum Today
Authored by: tydyed on Monday, August 07 2006 @ 03:49 PM EDT
How does this plugin for Visual Studio create value for the UNIX flavors
distributed by SCO? Last time I looked Visual Studio was a microsoft only
development platform. Not that this question is particularly pertinent.

My humble opinion, this is not about pipe fairy like funding but rather a hope
that such an announcement might drive the stock price back up after it's recent
decline into record low territory. I could be wrong but I don't think Microsoft
would be stupid enough to engage in any further direct funding of TSCOG.



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An older member of the "GNU" generation!

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I guess the MS HP SCO Conference thing was correct
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 07 2006 @ 03:57 PM EDT
So someone was correct abourt MS & HP being invited to the SCOnference
8-)

not able to login

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HipCheck? is that a joke ..
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 07 2006 @ 03:59 PM EDT
So, let me get this right ...

HipCheck, monitors vital system functions on a Unix or Windows box .. and, if
necessary, sends and SMS to the admins mobile, or an email to their desktop?

AND THATS IT?

Jeeze .. these guys will try and sell anyting!! ... Nagios has dones this since
... YEARS ago. YEARS. My install of it happily uses a neat little bit of Perl
to use the Orange SMS web->SMS facilty to page me when a server goes a bit
wayward. It send email too. I can send SMS' back to a server too, and have it
"do stuff" assuming its still alive enough to pay attention.

I am STUNNED that they would try and market this, when you can download and
install Nagios (which is very advanced and configurable) for free.

And is really, the best attmept they can do to generate a revenue stream, some
app that sits on your server and SMS' you when things go tits up?

Oh wait, I get it now! clearly, on a Linux box, thats nevre going to be a money
spinner, 2 SMS' a yeare wont make anyone rich ... but hey, if say they collect
10c SMS gateway fee everytime a Windows box has an oopsy, wow, they'll be
millionaires within a week! ;)

--
Redpoint

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Att. GNU License Compliance Department
Authored by: doughnuts_lover on Monday, August 07 2006 @ 05:20 PM EDT
The SCO Group, Inc. (NASDAQ:SCOX) , the owner of the UNIX® operating system today has stopped delivering
ftp://ftp.sco.co.jp/pub/openserver5/opensrc/source/gnutools-5.0.7Kj-SRC. tar.bz2
Interestingly
ftp.sco.com/pub/openserver5/opensrc/source/gnutools-5.0.7Kj-SRC.tar.bz2
is still up for download.

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Franklin Covey couldn't make the change then... why now?
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 07 2006 @ 05:57 PM EDT
Franklin Covey... even with the help of Darl McBride couldn't translate the ever popular Franklin Day Planner to the Palm so why does Darl think he can do something similar now?

According to Bob Mimms today SCO announced it will team with Day-Timers Inc. to develop, market and support a suite of mobile data applications.

Dubbed DT4, SCO will extend time management, calendaring and task management to Day-Timers customers through special versions of its Me Inc.

Sounds like Darl is going up against one of his old employers... he did, after all work for Franklin Covey before didn't he?

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SCO Is Still Distributing ELF, Part 3 & Teleconference from SCOforum Today - Updated
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 07 2006 @ 07:10 PM EDT
IBM will _NOT_ pay SCO anything.

This is great press and reputation for IBM. Settling in anyway at this point for
less than a total win is not in IBMs best interest.

In addition SCO has raised the "knowledge learned" question. IBM needs
to get a ruling on this for future buisness operations with clients.

Lets say IBM does work for A. Then B comes along and gets IBM to do something
similar. SCO's claims open up IBM and B for lawsuits from A.

IBM needs to slam that door shut hard. It will be good for IBM if they can knock
this off with the totally amusingly incompetent SCO case.

At this point SCO would have to come up with big $$$ to get IBM to drop the
case.


All this new buisness stuff is, is SCO flaling away to cover their totally
disasterous UNIX buisness and equally disasterous lawsuit.

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Final proof that SCO really are in bed with M$?
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 07 2006 @ 07:43 PM EDT

Re: ... this announcement, written in marketspeak:

Surely only a M$ spokes-bot, with decades of experience explaining how the
Office Paperclip (Clippy) brings a new paradigm to creative sentence
construction, could possibly have racked, stretched, tortured - and ultimately
executed - the English language in such a professional manner!

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SCOX went up to $3
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 07 2006 @ 07:52 PM EDT
Maybe it was just a way to get a better return on someones stock sales

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"... DT4 tools will especially target lawyers, doctors, real estate ... et al"
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 07 2006 @ 08:32 PM EDT
Makes a change from them targetting world+cat with lawsuits.

Nah ... it'll never last! Leopard, spots, etc.

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"We anticipate DT4 to be the next killer application for mobile phones"
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 07 2006 @ 11:33 PM EDT
Laughed at that one.
Uh, no. Not even close.

There is certainly a market for enterprise push messaging solutions but SCO are
late here and the competition is large.
Great business development skills and reseller channels are what SCO need to
make this work for them. It can work but

I might actually be pursuaded to get a subscription to Me Inc if it could
provide updates from Groklaw. SCO would subscribe to that too.

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HIP check products are real
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 07 2006 @ 11:39 PM EDT
I googled 'hip check' thinking I would find a bunch of stuff about hockey. The
first hit was a review of hip check products from 2002. So, SCO's hip check
product could be legitimate.

Ultimately such products don't do anything you couldn't do yourself. In that
respect they are like development tools. In theory I could write all my
programs in machine code without recourse to any development tools. In reality
I wouldn't even do that for a PIC. Similarly I could create policies for my
servers without recourse to HIP products but I have better things to do with my
life (bear in mind that I am not a system administrator).

The word that comes to mind is verisimilitude. SCO has to present itself as a
real business with a real claim against IBM and the rest of the world (and its
dog). If they were in any way to admit that they have no hope of survival after
their frivolous claims are pitched out, they would open themselves and their
lawyers to a world of hurt. So, they have to act like any other ongoing
business and continue to introduce new products.

SCO could find itself in the same position as Lenny Bruce. He carried a
doctor's letter saying he needed methedrine. The authorities took the position
that the letter was just for the purpose of tricking the law. I suspect that
Judge K will decide that SCO's attempts to look legitimate are no different.

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Preparing for the Utah conference ?
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, August 08 2006 @ 08:06 AM EDT
Remember the Utah IT conference, where Ballmer is due to speak next month ?

Now Ballmer can say something like:
"We at Microsoft love SCO software, in fact we are partnering with them to
promote their Edge-Click technology, as an integrated part of Visual
Studio."

For attendees that don't know the real story of SCO, it could sound like a great
investment opportunity. At least it will give an excuse for another upwards
manipulation of the share price, at a point when SCO will likely be facing PSJs
from IBM.


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  • Good thought - Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, August 08 2006 @ 09:09 AM EDT
Clickable Link
Authored by: jplatt39 on Tuesday, August 08 2006 @ 11:26 AM EDT
I haven't seen this anywhere: SCO's McBride: 'We're MAD' .

I should refrain from further comment. As usual he says they want their day in court and they'll win. I believe he means it. (I have superhuman powers of gullibility and credulity).

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