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So, I was reading... groan... the "SCO UnixWare 7 Release 7.1 Getting Started Guide". And just when I decided that I must have been really bad to be punished with such a chore, kazaam! Look what I found: more Unix Sooper Seekret methods and concepts spilled on the ground like oil from your old car. On page 5 and 6, I found references to a couple of things that I believe shoot some new holes in SCO's position on confidentiality too. Poor SCO. They're like a second wife who doesn't know a thing about her husband compared to the first wife. SCO took the name, but it doesn't know the Santa Cruz history. Neither did I, but at least I'm trying. You'll never guess what oldSCO did in 1999. So I'll tell you, with links and graphics to prove I'm not making it up. On May 28, 1999, Santa Cruz announced that it was giving away UnixWare7 free for personal, noncommercial use. Oh, and the world could use it for open source development. Hahahahaha. I guess oldSCO wasn't planning on suing IBM in 2003 (through all eternity) over methods and concepts, huh?
NewSCO has scrubbed as much of that old history as it can from the Internet (which tells us that it likely does actually know more than it lets on), but they can't control all of the Internet, so here's a message on an Irish LUG's board: [ILUG] Free UnixWare 7
From: Dave Burke (dave at domain iol.ie)
Date: Fri 28 May 1999 - 15:47:31 IST
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Heyho,
http://www.sco.com/seti/freeuw7.html
SCO are giving away UnixWare 7 for free and have waived the P&P charges as
well as part of their SETI promotion. Don't know if they'll post it to
Ireland but haven't have a response back yet saying that they wouldn't.
Dave
This was followed by a followup message, which said the following, in part: Well, yeah, but who cares?
I (like, I suspect, a few others here), started my Unix experience on
SCO, and rarely have I been so relieved to put something behind me.
Going from Linux or Solaris to SCO Unixware is like going from a Rolls
to a Morris Minor - lots of things are missing, or in the wrong place,
or don't work right, or whatever... it always takes lots of horrid
little tweaks to get stuff to compile properly on it. All in all,
yecchh.
That's a new take on the bicycle/race car analogy, huh? Would you like to see the license? Here you go, with a little highlighting from me, because I'm in such a good mood: Free-for-noncommercial-use-ware: SCO: OpenServer und Free UnixWare
"Conditions Of Use
USE OF THIS SOFTWARE IS SOLELY FOR EDUCATIONAL USE TO ENABLE THE EVALUATION AND UNDERSTANDING OF SCO PRODUCTS, AND ONLY FOR: (1) NONCOMMERCIAL EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES, OR (2)NONCOMMERCIAL PERSONAL HOME USE (SUCH AS PERSONAL WEBSITE AND BBS), OR (3) EVALUATION PURPOSES LIMITED TO 60 DAYS, OR (4) DEMONSTRATION PURPOSES FOR PROSPECTIVE CUSTOMERS. SCO GRANTS TO YOU A NON-EXCLUSIVE, NON-TRANSFERABLE, ROYALTY FREE, LIMITED LICENSE TO USE THE SOFTWARE ONLY FOR THOSE PURPOSES STATED ABOVE, AND NOT FOR ANY OTHER USE. YOU WILL NOT ACQUIRE ANY RIGHT IN THE SOFTWARE EXCEPT THE LIMITED USE RIGHTS SPECIFIED IN THE SOFTWARE LICENSE AGREEMENT WHICH YOU ARE REQUIRED TO READ AND AGREE TO PRIOR TO USE OF THIS SOFTWARE. THE LICENSED SOFTWARE MAY NOT BE SOLD, LEASED, ASSIGNED, SUBLICENSED OR OTHERWISE TRANSFERRED, IN WHOLE OR IN PART, BY YOU.
http://wdb1.sco.com/clbk_web/owa/freeunix_reg_action
Q: What do you mean free? This media kit costs money!
A: Well, it's the license that is free. We only charge the amount necessary to cover our costs for the actual media.
Q: What can I do with this free license and media kit?
A: You can use it for learning about UNIX® systems, developing software that you do not sell, personal computing, or to run a personal web site. It can also be used for open source development and speculative development (Product development done before a product is shipped).You may not use it in your business or to support commercial or profit-making activities....
Q: Why is SCO doing this?
A: As the owner of UNIX technology, SCO wanted to address the many requests from students, school faculties, hobbyists and business users who want to experiment with SCO software. With the availability of free and low cost Linux systems, we feel it is very important to make sure that SCO UNIX offerings are available for evaluation at a low cost.
SCO Offers FAQ http://www.sco.com/offers/faq.html"
I believe that red part is clear enough. It. Can. Also. Be. Used. For. Open. Source. Development. OldSCO actively promoted the use of Unix in education, though its "Academic Program." Ever hear about oldSCO's FreeUnix Korea program? And just in case you think some guy made this up and there never was a Free UnixWare7 release, I give you SCO's own website, which tells us this: Release 7.1.1 Software notes
Installation Roadmap...
Gathering required media and licenses
The minimal media required to install UnixWare 7 include:
* UnixWare 7 Installation Diskettes (2)
* UnixWare 7 Host Bus Adapter Diskette
* UnixWare 7 CD-ROMs 1-3, unless installing over the network
* License information, from a printed Certificate of License and Authenticity or from your vendor's licensing web site. This license is optional if you want to install a system for a limited evaluation period. ...
What to do after installing UnixWare 7....
Common post-installation tasks include:
* Creating emergency recovery diskettes and tapes. Note that you must set the system locale to C to successfully create this media.
* Registering the system. (Free UnixWare 7 does not need to be registered.)
A company wishing to sue the world over methods and concepts, whatever that means in legal terms, probably shouldn't let people evaluate their software without an NDA for 60 days or give away to any Tom, Dick and Harry an entire version for educational use and open source development. N'est-ce pas? So, here are the graphics from the manual, so you'll see that there really was a Free Unixware7 giveaway and evaluation licenses. The final graphic is regarding the Academic Program and the FreeUnix Korea project, which comes from my collection of screenshots I took before SCO whitewashed its website and blocked Wayback:
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| Authored by: om1er on Monday, June 26 2006 @ 11:09 PM EDT |
To keep things tidy and easy to find.
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Are we there yet?[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: om1er on Monday, June 26 2006 @ 11:11 PM EDT |
Please make links clickable.
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, June 26 2006 @ 11:18 PM EDT |
- Emily L. [ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, June 26 2006 @ 11:21 PM EDT |
How are they disclosing methods and concepts with a
runtime only license? There is no indication that source
code is supplied.
One can develop open source software on any OS, there is
nothing special about open source development here other
than they may have been trying to get some software
developed for Unix.
It is also a single user license. Not very useful.
Looks more like a stripped down demo version of the
software. A very common practice.
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- Free UnixWare7/Evaluation Licenses - UNIX M & C - Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, June 26 2006 @ 11:33 PM EDT
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- Free UnixWare7/Evaluation Licenses - exposes - Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, June 26 2006 @ 11:43 PM EDT
- Free UnixWare7/Evaluation Licenses - UNIX M & C - Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 27 2006 @ 01:05 AM EDT
- Free UnixWare7/Evaluation Licenses - UNIX M & C - Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 27 2006 @ 01:58 AM EDT
- Yes, I'm confused by that too - Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 27 2006 @ 03:57 AM EDT
- Free UnixWare7/Evaluation Licenses - UNIX M & C - Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 27 2006 @ 07:26 AM EDT
- YeahBut... - Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 27 2006 @ 10:17 AM EDT
- YeahBut... - Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 27 2006 @ 10:33 AM EDT
- Re: Free != Open - Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 27 2006 @ 11:58 AM EDT
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| Authored by: GLJason on Monday, June 26 2006 @ 11:34 PM EDT |
| As long as it doesn't compete with one of their products. They can get all the
benefits, but don't want to be forced to compete with other offerings. Just
take a look at what their current product
includes:
- Mozilla
- Apache
- Tomcat
- PostgreSQL
- MySQL
NTP
- libpng
- CUPS (GPL'd, they link you to www.cups.org)
- Gimp-print
- ghostscript
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Sendmail
- OpenSSL
- OpenSSH
- Samba
- ZLib (they link you to www.zlib.net)
- OpenLDAP
Impressive
features indeed. I wonder how much of the capabilities here would be available
if SCO had to write the software itself, and how much more Unixware would
cost...
Also, by including the 'LKP' (Linux Kernel Personality) in UnixWare,
wouldn't they be violating the copyrights in Linux by their own twisted
copyright theories? [ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: rsi on Monday, June 26 2006 @ 11:39 PM EDT |
What are the odds that this is the "Last Nail in the Coffin" for SCO.
NNnnaaaaaaahhhhh! ;^)
Seriously, how much MORE does the judge need before this comes to the obvious
END???[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: jig on Monday, June 26 2006 @ 11:41 PM EDT |
wasn't unixware 7 still covered under the noproliferation act at that time
(no-export)?
well, if sco can sneak their amended complaint past the judges, this should
pretty quickly clear up any questions in a summary judgement motion. hopefully
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| Authored by: red floyd on Tuesday, June 27 2006 @ 12:21 AM EDT |
I wish I had the hardcopy of my SCO OpenServer 5 free personal license (never
installed it, though, my personal machine at the time was an ancient 286).
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I am not merely a "consumer" or a "taxpayer". I am a *CITIZEN* of the United
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| Authored by: tgl on Tuesday, June 27 2006 @ 12:40 AM EDT |
"NewSCO has scrubbed as much of that old history as it can from the
Internet"?
Hm, can you say "destruction of evidence"? I suppose not, because no
sane
judge would admit internet archives as evidence given the current state of the
art, but geez ... we all know what's going on here. This is about trying to
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| Authored by: mobrien_12 on Tuesday, June 27 2006 @ 01:06 AM EDT |
I read this and it just says to me that OldSCO offered a free non-commercial
licence to use the UnixWare7 Binaries. As far as the learning about Unix
systems stuff, that really has absolutely nothing to do with Darl's most holy
IP delusions. It's the same kind of learning you would have gotten with a
binary-only copy of Solaris when Sun offered the Free x86 version. In other
words, you get to learn about it as a system administrator and from an
applications developer. Nothing to see here.
It's pretty much the same deal Darl's tried to offer with his screwball jihad
against Linux, because he said he would let non-commercial users use binary-only
versions of Linux (he has never proved he has the authority to do anything of
the sort).
What is disturbing to me, and what I'm suprised none of you locked onto, is that
OldSCO clearly stated that they were "The owners of UNIX technology."
This means they maybe really did think they owned something when they sold it to
Caldera. That's not terrible, but slightly weakens the "this is a whole
conjob shakedown" type argument against SCOG.[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 27 2006 @ 01:35 AM EDT |
I have had free license OpenServer 5.0.4 and Unixware 7.0.1 and 7.1.1. I
obtained to OpenServer 5.0.4 and JDK on 4 September 1997 for a total of UKP
31.02.
Unixware 7.0.1 free license I obtained in 1999 and this included SCOMerge to run
Windows 3.11 and Lxrun to run (some) Linux programs. It also had free license
SCO VisionFS (cf Samba) and development tools with all headers and compilers and
a copy of Java SDK.
Skunkware was provided on a CD and also could be downloaded.
The invoice for the media kit of Unixware 7.1.1 was dated August 2000 and was
'free of charge', they didn't even charge me the freight.
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| Authored by: Reven on Tuesday, June 27 2006 @ 03:12 AM EDT |
This is like the old "Linus used Minux to develop Linux" that some
people used to accuse of plagiarism with.
Because Unixware was given away for people to use as a platform to write open
source software on doesn't mean that all the constituent code of Unixware was
opened up for people to make open source software out of.
Oracle made a lot of versions of Oracle RDBMS available for developers to use
free, but it doesn't mean I can take Oracle's code and stuff it in MySQL. It
doesn't even mean that Oracle's proprietary methods of working an RDBMS are open
to use in other software - Oracle isn't divulging its secrets. It's giving away
software for people to USE.
While I would love to find the magic bullet that would kill the SCO vampire once
and for all and keep them from trying to suck the life out of everything good
and wholesome, this is not it.
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 27 2006 @ 03:54 AM EDT |
"You may not use it in your business or to support commercial or
profit-making activities...."
Does this not take away most of the usefulness of this find?
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 27 2006 @ 04:22 AM EDT |
can IBM still ask for original documents from Tarantella? Or alternatively is
there a way to ask newSco for them directly?[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 27 2006 @ 04:24 AM EDT |
PJ, you are on dangerous ground for some time now.
SCO never had a problem with Open Source. In fact SCO has been one of Open
Source' most fervent proponents.
You know, there is a reason why Richard Stallman stresses the distinction
between Free Software and Open Source Software.[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: ine on Tuesday, June 27 2006 @ 08:08 AM EDT |
One must be careful about what "use it for open source development"
can *legitimately* mean. It is an expansion of the non-commercial clause: just
as you can install UnixWare7 for free in order to teach students about (say)
Unix administration, so too you can install UnixWare7 for free if you want to
have a Unix system to write your new FOSS game, FOSS web server, FOSS CAD
package, etc. They are trying to encourage people to develop on UnixWare7
systems (and obviously *for* UnixWare7 systems) - it would have several positive
flow-ons for them ... rather like Oracle giving away free licences of Oracle for
developers. It doesn't mean they want you to clone the package itself.
So "free UnixWare7" contrasts with installing it as an employee in
order to develop a commercial game, a commercial web server, or a commercial CAD
package. If you work for a commercial software company, they must pay for their
UnixWare7 licences. If you work as a non-commercial FOSS developer, you can
install UnixWare7 as your development platform for free. It has nothing to do
with being allowed to copy any proprietary features within UnixWare7 itself.
This is how I take it.
PS: I am not defending SCO, merely pointing out that I do not think this licence
amounts to much. SCO has PLENTY of holes in their case ... enough to sink the
Titanic. I just don't think this licence "to use [UnixWare7] for open
source development" is one of them. Slightly ambiguous, maybe. But
irrelevant, IMHO. I would not accept this licence as evidence that old/new SCO
intended people to copy anything from UnixWare7 itself. It is a licence to
install and use, not to copy/modify and distribute.
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| Authored by: ssavitzky on Tuesday, June 27 2006 @ 08:19 AM EDT |
Since this is a binary copy, it's pretty clear that kernel source code is not
being revealed here -- what they must have meant was "development of
open-source software that runs on top of Unixware".
On the other hand, the header files are certainly included in the release, and
any "methods and concepts" that can be gleaned from the documentation
and the organization of the system as a whole are out there in public.
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- Exactly the point! - Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 27 2006 @ 08:47 AM EDT
- Not really - Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 27 2006 @ 10:58 AM EDT
- Not really - Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 27 2006 @ 04:00 PM EDT
- Not really - Authored by: PJ on Tuesday, June 27 2006 @ 05:16 PM EDT
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| Authored by: txjak on Tuesday, June 27 2006 @ 09:54 AM EDT |
| Prior to the Unixware kit, SCO made a free kit available for OpenServer (Unix
5.0 kernel) which was apparently a precursor to the UnixWare kit.
Linux Journal had a review
at the time (1/1/97).
If it's of any use, I could donate mine to the
archive.
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 27 2006 @ 11:53 AM EDT |
Back in 1998, when I was scared to death of UNIX or
anything like it, I remembered the Santa Cruz Operation's
offer of OpenServer 5.0.4 for $16 ($20 w/ shipping). I
took them up on it, including the SkunkWorks companion CD,
and dove in to attack my fear of things UNIX-y. It took 9
1/2 hours to install on my 486-33 w/ 32MB DRAM and SCSI
disk. Was it Free Software? No, of course not. But it
gave me something to work with until I would eventually
encounter two distributions of GNU/Linux--ironically, one
of them Caldera Linux 1.3--at COMDEX that same year.
Still, I used OpenServer 5.0.4, for my own educational
purposes per the license, up to the year 2000, on a couple
of my AMD K6 boxes. Back then, for those who for whatever
reason didn't have access to GNU/Linux, but could afford
$20, SCO OpenServer was a legally affordable way to get
started in the UNIX world.
Fast forward eight years, to today. I've kept that
OpenServer disc, and that product installation key, all
these years. Perhaps it could be used as evidence against
the SCOundrels who now have perverted the Santa Cruz
Operation's good name. Old SCO was cool by me; not
perfect, but they helped me get my foot in the door,
legally and affordably. The SCO Group of today is evil,
and I will enjoy watching them be slowly crushed like the
bug that they are.
And, BTW, today I use exclusively Free Software, mostly
various distributions of GNU/Linux, but also FreeBSD and
OpenBSD where I think they're appropriate. I have been
"Microsoft Free Since 2003" and intend to stay that way
until that company changes its mind about Freedom. And
yes, I was a MCSE once. No more. [ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: PhilFrisbie on Tuesday, June 27 2006 @ 12:07 PM EDT |
Unix, including UnixWare7, has always been distibuted with the source
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 27 2006 @ 03:35 PM EDT |
Is there a "best guess" list of what UNIX M & C TSCOG will
be claiming, to go along with the UNIX books list?
And speaking of the UNIX books list, the link
[ http://kerb.kiix.com:8080 ] forwards to
[ www.anteil.com ]? [ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 27 2006 @ 05:10 PM EDT |
At best, they've given permission to reverse engineer the filesystem (and I'm
dubious that a court would accept even this argument.) If the free release
didn't include source for the filesystem, they haven't given permission to use
the M&C in the source in open software, which is what SCO claim IBM have
done.
There's lots of reasons why SCO are wrong, but this isn't one of them.
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| Authored by: The Simulator on Wednesday, June 28 2006 @ 08:16 AM EDT |
I have a copy of the the license document for the free copy knocking around
somewhere. If you need it let me know and I'll dig it out, scan it and send it
in...
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, June 29 2006 @ 08:19 AM EDT |
There was also an issue of FreeX, a german Unix Distribution magazine with SCO's
UnixWare 7 on it, that was available under the pseudo-free license. I've got the
key, the CD and the license text somewhere, too. See
http://www.cul.de/data/freex199inh.pdf for the contents.
cheers,
dalibor topic[ Reply to This | # ]
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