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Monday, August 29 2005 @ 08:29 AM EDT
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SCO's 3rd quarter financial results will be released after the market closes on September 7, and the conference call will be at 5 PM. If anyone gets to ask a real question, here's a question I've been puzzling over. Could you ask them please if their new partner Cymphonix's product, Network Composer, is based on Linux, and if so, how they can partner with them while suing others over the Linux kernel? How does that work, exactly? Will there be a blessing on that kernel and that use, or will folks have to buy a license, or what? I got to wondering when I read a message from a Cymphonix employee on Sourceforge that begins like this:
Hello,
My name is Trevor Paskett and I work for a company named Cymphonix. http://www.cymphonix.com
We have a product named bandwidth composer. It monitors/shapes/reports on traffic that
passes through it. It has some light weight application matching capabilities. It is
entirely based on Linux. The product name has been changed [PDF] to Network Composer, but it's the same thing. So, that is my question. Here's the SCO press release with all the details about September 7th. SCO identifies itself like this, this time: The SCO Group, Inc. is a leading provider of distributed network systems and application platforms that help millions of customers to grow their businesses everyday. No UNIX wording? Have we seen that before? I don't think so, and I am wondering if Novell's counterclaims, particularly the slander of title counterclaim, have trimmed in their sails a teeny weeny bit. As you will recall, it reads like this: 95. SCO made its public statements claiming ownership of the UNIX Copyrights, and improperly registered its claim to UNIX Copyrights, with knowledge that title to these copyrights remains with Novell.
96. SCO made such statements maliciously, in bad faith, and with intentional disregard for the truth.
97. SCO made such statements with the intent to cause customers and potential customers of Novell not to do business with Novell, to slander and impugn the ownership rights of Novell in UNIX and UnixWare, and to attempt, in bad faith, to block Novell's ability to exercise its copyrights therein.
98. SCO's slander of Novell's title has resulted in special damages including, inter alia, Novell's costs and fees in preparing and filing copyright registrations and declarations correcting SCO's erroneous registrations claiming ownership of Novell's intellectual property and in prosecuting this action.
So with that, here is the text of the press release.
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The SCO Group to Release Third Quarter Financial Results and Host Conference Call After Close of Market on Sept. 7, 2005
Monday August 29, 8:00 am ET
LINDON, Utah, Aug. 29 /PRNewswire/ -- The SCO Group, Inc. (Nasdaq: SCOX - News), a leading provider of distributed network systems and application platforms, today announced it will release its financial results, for the fiscal third quarter ended on July 31, 2005, after the close of the market, on Wednesday, September 7, 2005.
In conjunction with the financial results press release, the company will also host a conference call that same day at 5:00 p.m. (EDT) to discuss the Company's results.
WHAT: The SCO Group, Inc. Third Quarter 2005 Financial Call
WHEN: Wednesday, September 7, 2005, 5:00 p.m. (EDT)
HOW: To participate in the live call, please dial toll free
1-877-502-9276 or use the toll number +1-913-981-5591;
confirmation code: 7700475.
You may also join the call in listen-only mode via Web cast. The URL is listed at http://ir.sco.com/medialist.cfm.
About SCO
The SCO Group, Inc. (Nasdaq: SCOX - News) is a leading provider of distributed network systems and application platforms that help millions of customers to grow their businesses everyday. Headquartered in Lindon, Utah, SCO has a worldwide network of thousands of resellers and developers. SCO Global Services provides reliable localized support and services to partners and customers. For more information on SCO products and services, visit http://www.sco.com.
SCO and the associated SCO logo are trademarks or registered trademarks of The SCO Group, Inc. in the U.S. and other countries. All other brand or product names are or may be trademarks of, and are used to identify products or services of, their respective owners.
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| Authored by: fudisbad on Monday, August 29 2005 @ 09:20 AM EDT |
For current events, legal filings and Caldera® collapses.
Please make links clickable.
Example: <a href="http://example.com">Click here</a>
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| Authored by: fudisbad on Monday, August 29 2005 @ 09:21 AM EDT |
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 29 2005 @ 10:27 AM EDT |
"No UNIX wording? Have we seen that before?"
Yes, looking back, the last several announcements of quarterly financial results
don't have the UNIX text. The last regular press release on Aug 8 had it.[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 29 2005 @ 10:32 AM EDT |
How much should we read into the removal of the Unix wording from their
"signature" ?
As a casual observer, this seems to me an admission that they know they are
going to lose to Novell's claims. If they thought/knew they would win then there
is no reason to stop. Also, the fact that they have removed them could be raised
by Novell at ay subsequent hearings and might help convince a judge/jury that
(new) SCO have their doubts.
Or does this mean nothing at all, and just standard behaviour when going to
trial on such an issue ?
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- No Unix Wording... - Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 29 2005 @ 11:10 AM EDT
- No Unix Wording... - Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 29 2005 @ 11:27 AM EDT
- I think not - Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 29 2005 @ 12:53 PM EDT
- No Unix Wording... - Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, September 05 2005 @ 01:37 AM EDT
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| Authored by: eggplant37 on Monday, August 29 2005 @ 11:06 AM EDT |
Well, I must say that I'm impressed by SCO's staying power and consistency.
Looking at this press release and singing to myself, "One of these things
is not like the others, one of these things just doesn't belong," does help
to paint it in the right light.
So, the story changes yet again as to how SCO is billing itself. I like how it
says it isn't the owner of the copyrights and trademarks and servicemarks and
intellectual property it's been trying to swashbuckle from the world and Novell.
Very lovely.
Darl, thanks again for all the laughs.[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: tiger99 on Monday, August 29 2005 @ 11:06 AM EDT |
| On the Cymphonix web page Link
I thought that IBM had bought Dynix some time ago, and hence its
position in the IBM vs SCOundrel court case. But this seems to be the
same name used in a closely related field. Maybe the lawyers here can help to
clarify this? Incidentally, I saw the Cymphonix appliance demonstrated in the
UK a few weeks ago, and am under the impression that it really needs special
hardware to function. You really need fast parallel hardware, probably using
FPGA technology, to examine TCP/IP packets in real time on anything but a very
slow link, and I think that the box does exactly that. Yet the Cymphonix website offers a free evaluation
unit, which when you click on the link, seems to be a free download. Since when
is an "appliance" an "evaluation unit" and then merely a "download"? I think
that there may be some dubious marketing at best, and possibly false advertising
here. Or maybe just confusion and incompetence...... [ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: long_hair_smelly on Monday, August 29 2005 @ 01:30 PM EDT |
| If anyone gets to ask a real question, here's a question I've been puzzling
over. Could you ask them please if their new partner Cymphonix's product,
Network Composer, is based on Linux, and if so, how they can partner with them
while suing others over the Linux kernel? How does that work, exactly? Will
there be a blessing on that kernel and that use, or will folks have to buy a
license, or what?
I can't recall the last time a "real" question has been
asked (off hand). Either they seem to ban anything related to their many
lawsuits, leaving their Unix business as the only real thing to talk about, or
their questions seem to have a serious Shill factor to them, as if Darl and Co.
have simply passed out a few questions to ask. It's not like there have been
many questions asked recently, as well.
I think it's safe to say there'll be
more of the same. [ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: TheBlueSkyRanger on Monday, August 29 2005 @ 02:29 PM EDT |
Hey, everybody!
So far, every time they have some sort of "circle the wagons"
conference call, they have had a wookie. The last two were really disastrous,
one because it infringed on someone's privacy, and the other was just
entertaining. Do you think they'll have the guts to try another?
Dobre utka,
The Blue Sky Ranger
"Ha! You fool! I have caught you in a logical conundrum and now must mock
you for your idiocy!"
--Rat
Pearls Before Swine
and probably running through the minds of everyone listening to the conference
call[ Reply to This | # ]
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- Yes - n/t - Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 29 2005 @ 04:00 PM EDT
- A wookie won't work. - Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 29 2005 @ 09:40 PM EDT
- Pearls Before Swine? - Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 29 2005 @ 10:27 PM EDT
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 29 2005 @ 02:43 PM EDT |
All I got to say is tear them up and the spit them out.
You go NOVELL, you go.[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: Steve Martin on Monday, August 29 2005 @ 02:52 PM EDT |
Could you ask them please if their new partner Cymphonix's
product, Network Composer, is based on Linux, and if so, how they can partner
with them while suing others over the Linux kernel? How does that work,
exactly?
The same way suing people over Linux while a
sibling Canopy company (LinuxNetworx) was in the business of providing
Linux-based clustering solutions, I guess...
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- Not sure, but - Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 29 2005 @ 10:44 PM EDT
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 29 2005 @ 06:15 PM EDT |
| SCO Global Services provides reliable localized support and services to
partners and customers.
We have already established:
a) SCO does not
own Linux (or any part of it),
b) SCO does not own Unix (but does own
certain rights to it),
c) SCO's idea of support and services to partners
and customers is to sue them.
SCO will have absolutely no problem
partnering Cymphonix while suing others over the Linux kernel. Why did you ever
think that they might have had?
Note also: SCO has thousands of resellers
and developers and millions of customers. I cannot comment on the
first figure, the second is presumably based on the number of free downloads of
Caldera Linux.
Alan(UK) [ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 29 2005 @ 09:30 PM EDT |
So Network Composer would be using Linux, netfitler... I wonder if they ship the
source code with their Network Composer units they sell? Couldn't find any links
to source code on their web site...[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: jmc on Tuesday, August 30 2005 @ 03:30 AM EDT |
One of the people my company works with (not based in the UK) who is still
trying to distribute SCO stuff has mailed us saying:
SCO has
withdrawn from the SarkuJapan project and refunded the customer's purchase for
both their Operating System and SCO Office Mail product.
After
three months of hell from all parties including their engineering team,
SarkuJapna's I/T team and ourselves, they have not been able to complete a
Microsoft Exchange 2000 migration and Active Directory integration as promoted,
advertised and documented. [ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, August 30 2005 @ 03:30 AM EDT |
I've been thinking about this and have reached the conclusion that I wouldn't
want this question asked at the conference call.
No, I would want to have these questions asked by IBM's and Redhat's lawyers
once they Darl on the stand in front of SCO's longed for jury.
Be nice to see the answers he gives once under pressure, unlike the conference
call which they can fix - sorry my mistake typo - control.
But better still, he's got to keep his consistentcy or it's perjury
time.....much more fun. :-)
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| Authored by: Sunny Penguin on Tuesday, August 30 2005 @ 05:56 PM EDT |
Possibly similar to the Caldera con. call.
From Wikipedia:
On September 7, 1876, outlaw Jesse James and his buddies disturbed the
contentment of Northfield when they tried to rob a bank in downtown Northfield.
Armed citizens resisted the robbers and thwarted the theft but not before the
bank's cashier - also Carleton's treasurer - was murdered. A couple of the
James-Younger gang were killed (the skeleton of one was displayed in the
Historical Society museum -- see below -- for many years) and a couple more
arrested. Jesse and Frank James fled to South Dakota.
Now we know why Darl likes hats and cattle!
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