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Groklaw Editor Unmasked! by Boreen O'BlahBlah |
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Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 06:04 PM EDT
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Don't bother asking me what Darl is talking about. I have no idea. I know who I am, and I know I've never misrepresented anything. I've never said anything personal about myself, actually. I don't have to. I'm not a public company.As far as credibility, SCO might try to get as much as I have earned. America was founded by anonymous pamphleteers. It's an honored American tradition. It's an honor to be smeared by SCO, for that matter. It puts me in the same company as Linus, which is a wonderful place to be. I gather they are threatening me and hope I'll be intimidated and shut up. I won't. I just told my mother what Darl said, and she says, "That must be their last gasp I believe." Of course, I must say, she might be biased.
I have heard SCO has been telling journalists a lot of peculiar stories about who they think I might be. One guess was that I was Eric Raymond, with his lawyer wife whispering in his ear. Another guess was that I am a composite of IBM lawyers. Another was ... I forget. It's too silly. They didn't get it right yet, that I've heard. The truth is, I'm an alien from a galaxy far, far away.... Or I'm Shakespeare, who was really a group of American housewives pretending to be an English playwright... Meanwhile, our own Scott Lazar happens to have done a little parody for us. Enjoy. (For those who missed the conference call: here's where Darl says they are "near the bottom". I'll say.)
Update: CBR's coverage of the conference call is here. The transcript by Thomson is here [PDF], although it's not 100% accurate, ascribing several answers by Blake Stowell to Darl McBride, and parts of the audio is available on our Transcripts page if you'd like to hear it for yourself. Groklaw's transcript is here.
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Groklaw Editor-in-Chief Unmasked
~ by Boreen O'BlahBlah*
The oft-times controversial Pamela Jones of Groklaw fame has been revealed as to her true
identity and source of motivation for starting the much loved and much vilified website. In a word:
real estate values. Much to the chagrin of this journalist with a programmer background, it has
been discovered that over the past ten years, Ms. Jones has apparently been engaged in
stealthily purchasing vast amounts of land in and around American Fork, Utah. American Fork is
a scant five miles from the epicenter of the legal earthquake sparked by the Lindon, Utah SCO
Group more than two years ago. In a joint study conducted by the Yankee Group and the Alexis
de Tocqueville Institution, it has been learned through queries to the Utah Department of Deeds
that approximately one hundred forty-two land purchases totaling more than fifteen thousand
acres, all under the corporate umbrella Groklawco International, have been recorded. Even more
startling than the existence of such an unabashed land grab is the apparent true identity of Ms.
Jones. Transaction papers revealed no reference to any Pamela Jones, but rather that of
Groklawco CEO James Palone. Spectral analysis of the phrase "Pamela Jones" has found it to
conclusively be an exact anagram taken from the letters comprising Palone's name. After
months of painstaking investigation, Palone was recently located in the tropical paradise of
Ambergris Caye, Belize. In an email interview, Palone has expressed both consternation and
relief at the dual discoveries.
"It's been overly burdensome these past two years wearing heels", Palone stated, an obvious
reference to his masquerade as the paralegal Pamela "PJ" Jones. "The only dresses worn in my
house, red or otherwise, are by my wife. I don't have the legs for them." When asked to outline
his motivation and plans for the land Groklawco has purchased, Palone was forthright. "My two
greatest loves beyond my wife and money are golfing and gambling. For years I've wanted to
marry the two. I don't see any shame in that." Public records reveal that Palone's first real estate
purchase was in 1995. Following that that initial buy, the transactions came fast and furious,
completing sixty four of them in the years 1996 and 1997 before drying up entirely in 1998. The
timeline coincides with eerie reciprocity the rise and subsequent apparent fall of the fortunes of
Caldera Corporation, whom later renamed themselves SCO Group. Land prices spiked in 1998
perhaps pushing Palone to the sidelines. In an apparent effort to reverse his fortunes, and to
consummate his dream, Palone donned the editor's pen and started Groklaw, focusing on the
lawsuits started by the Lindon technology company with particular pestilential malice. The results
have been dramatic. From a high of 300+ in their employ, the headcount has dwindled to less than
two hundred, depressing land values in neighboring communities twenty-five miles in all
directions. From 2004 until present seventy-seven additional purchases have been completed.
Palone, who requested repeatedly to be referred to as "Ms. Jones", still apparently plans to move
forward with his, err, her plans. "Of the current population of American Fork, sixty five percent is
under the age of thirty five. They are the perfect demographic for a combination 2000-room ultra-
luxury hotel and casino and 72 hole championship-quality golf course." Searches of public
records and the internet have brought forth tantalizingly veiled references to plans to once again
change the town's name. In prior iterations, the American Fork was been referred to as
McArtursville and Lake City. When confronted with the references, "Ms. Jones" would only say,
"Hey, Groklaw City. Has a nice ring to it, don't you think?"
Ken Brown, who's previous expose, Samizdat, shook the Linux community to its foundations (with laughter) over
the reportedly dubious origins of that open source operating system, is the principal researcher
who uncovered the "Jones" scheme. "The truth is now out there. The vehement shouts from this
supposed paralegal have been shown to be disingenuous and patently FOSS, err false." Brown's
upcoming book, Tadzimas, traces the orgins, intrigue, and corrupt dealings that have hopefully
been thwarted. The book is due to hit store shelves April 1st. It is not yet apparent whether
"Jones" has in actuality broken any laws. Among the many curious oddities in this unfolding saga
is the fact that "PJ" now makes "her" home in Belize, a non-extradition country.
* A parody by Scott Lazar
© Copyright 2005 Scott Lazar
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Authored by: TonyW on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 06:09 PM EDT |
Post your off-topic remarks here.
Please make your links clickable.
As such: <a href="http://www.example.com">Click here!</a>
Remember to change the Post Mode to HTML Formatted. And preview your post.
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Authored by: TonyW on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 06:12 PM EDT |
Please post corrections here.
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Authored by: Mark_Edwards on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 06:14 PM EDT |
That was quick !
Just a quick question though PJ.... Your not Elvis are
you?
:)
Mark.
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- Groklaw Editor Unmasked! by Boreen O'BlahBlah - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 06:32 PM EDT
- Groklaw Editor Unmasked! by Boreen O'BlahBlah - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 06:42 PM EDT
- Groklaw Editor Unmasked! by Boreen O'BlahBlah - Authored by: red floyd on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 07:10 PM EDT
- I know who you are! - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 09:07 PM EDT
- Groklaw Editor Unmasked! by Boreen O'BlahBlah - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 12:52 AM EDT
- If PJ is not a real person, then... - Authored by: Thees on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 05:16 AM EDT
- Groklaw Editor Unmasked! by Boreen O'BlahBlah - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 01:18 PM EDT
- Groklaw Editor Unmasked! by Boreen O'BlahBlah - Authored by: sidders on Sunday, April 17 2005 @ 09:34 AM EDT
- Groklaw Editor Unmasked! by Boreen O'BlahBlah - Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, April 18 2005 @ 01:46 PM EDT
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 06:15 PM EDT |
As anybody can plainly see, his/her scheme is clearly intended to achieve
monumental returns on the land investment after the Nazgul are done with SCO;
the resulting crater will be known as Lake Lindon, and the properties will then
be consolidated into resort hom development under the name "Puerto
Juanita" (AKA "PJ Properties"). The various titles are
consolidated under an offshore holding company, "Smart Land Development,
Ltd.", which may suggest that the titles consititute intellectual property
rights ("IP rights"). The scheme will become clear as soon as Darl
opens a window and the Nazgul can fly in......[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: emmenjay on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 06:22 PM EDT |
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Authored by: Simon G Best on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 06:24 PM EDT |
Before I've even read the parody (which I will do in just a moment), I've
just got to take this moment to put my Union Flag to one side and wave a
Star-Spangled Banner in support:
It's an honor to be smeared
by SCO, for that matter. It puts me in the same company as Linus, which is a
wonderful place to be. I gather they are threatening me and hope I'll be
intimidated and shut up. I won't.
That, I think, is the
best attitude to have when being smeared and having mud slung at you (though it
certainly helps when you know that everyone else can see through the mud, smears
and lies, too!).
Actually, I don't even have a real Stars and Stripes to
wave, but am doing so in my mind. It was the following that brought it to mind,
though:
America was founded by anonymous pamphleteers. It's an
honored American tradition.
Keep on keeping the American
Revolution alive!
--- FOSS IS political. It's just that the political
establishment is out of touch and hasn't caught up. [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 06:25 PM EDT |
Ever notice, that Maureen tends to post by day, and PJ by night?! One is shy
and hides her picture, the other is clearly a exhabitionist. One is honest,
the
other...well... Well, you get the point. It really is obvious. Well,
it's okay,
really, there are many people who suffer from dissociative
distorders. It is
nothing to be ashamed of. Very often the two primary
personalities are
extreme opposites...
Lol, that one is my favorite funny
theory, just couldn't resist :).
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Authored by: TAZ6416 on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 06:26 PM EDT |
Err.. I meant to say I Am PJ.. now where did I put that Red Dress.....
Jonathan[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 06:26 PM EDT |
Belize?! No, senor; when Darl asked where Senorita Jones lived, she said
"Oh, puh-leeze!", which intrepid Darl heard as "Belize".
Even MO'G would have got that one right.....[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: tiger99 on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 06:33 PM EDT |
Thanks PJ, that was hilarious. But I sincerely hope that someone resembling
Boreen O'BlahBlah is not at all amused.[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 06:38 PM EDT |
Threatening to reveal someone's secrets doesn't scare them if they aren't hiding
anything.
Except... "A superhero's most precious possession is their secret
identity" (probably butchering a quote from The Incredibles).
Hey, yeah,
that's it! PJ is actually Research Girl! That explains
everything!
Oh, wait - Research Girl... paralegal... yeah, pretty much the
same thing...
MSS [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 06:40 PM EDT |
This is just TOO good.
Lets see, can't wait for PJ on Nightline, then Leno. Of course the in depth
print interview with the WSJ.
Will SCOXE make PJ a STAR??
Inquiring minds want to know.....[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 06:48 PM EDT |
By the time the supervilian tries to get around to trying to unmasking the
hero, it's always already too late, and right before the closing act where the
villian is vanquished. Ah, I think that red dress may be needed soon.
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Authored by: jhereg69 on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 06:48 PM EDT |
I'm confused. I realize PJ doesn't like to post links to O'Gara's, um, stories,
but I have no idea what prompted the above parody...[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 06:57 PM EDT |
Every time he attacks groklaw, more hits go to the site, and more and more
mainstream reporters learn about groklaw.
Pamela Jones is now part of the Opensource Pantheon.
The few people given the privilege of deity status are the ones who will live on
in people's memory.
In terms of fame, I place PJ at third place now.
The big 4 are:
Linus Torvalds - the engineer
Richard Stallman - the pioneer
Pamela Jones - the reporter
Eric S Raymond - the voice
And if I have forgotten anyone, it is ptobably proof thast they're not in my
pantheon. Gods are created in the minds of people; maybe someone else would have
a different pantheon.
Following Pamela's lead, this sort of blog is catching on, and the collective
mind is empowering people who otherwise woudl have a lost case.[ Reply to This | # ]
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- Welllll... - Authored by: emmenjay on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 07:01 PM EDT
- Welllll... - Authored by: PJ on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 07:09 PM EDT
- Welllll... - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 09:35 AM EDT
- Welllll... - Authored by: PJ on Friday, April 15 2005 @ 05:06 PM EDT
- Thank you Darl. - Authored by: janolder on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 07:11 PM EDT
- Thank you Darl. - Authored by: Trepalium on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 02:42 AM EDT
- Thank you Darl. - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 01:26 PM EDT
- Thank you Darl. - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 10:22 PM EDT
- nor RMS... - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, April 15 2005 @ 04:59 PM EDT
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 07:01 PM EDT |
Does anyone else find it odd that after two years of destroying millions of
dollars of shareholder value, the CEO of a public company focuses an earnings cc
on a blogger?
Does Darl have any idea of what CEO's are supposed to do? I mean CEO's of
sucessful companies...
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- Check Your Facts - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 07:10 PM EDT
- Check Your Facts Too - Authored by: janolder on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 07:24 PM EDT
- Check Your Facts - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 07:28 PM EDT
- DMcBride protecting *his* IP ? - Authored by: dmarker on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 12:19 AM EDT
- But Judge Kimball wrote.... - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 01:47 AM EDT
- Check Your Facts - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 09:46 AM EDT
- Check Your Facts, Biff! - Authored by: saltydogmn on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 10:33 AM EDT
- Looks Like We Hit A Nerve, MaMa - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 02:37 PM EDT
- He *is* protecting his IP - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 04:54 PM EDT
- Check Your Facts - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, April 15 2005 @ 07:33 PM EDT
- CEO behavior? - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 07:14 PM EDT
- CEO behavior? - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 07:33 PM EDT
- CEO behavior? - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 10:15 PM EDT
- I smell something bad..... - Authored by: roadfrisbee on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 08:00 PM EDT
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 07:10 PM EDT |
jones bond ;)
sum.zero[ Reply to This | # ]
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- bond... - Authored by: ws on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 10:12 PM EDT
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Authored by: ivanj on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 07:10 PM EDT |
Surely SCO has got one or two things it should really be doing instead? A 10/Q
here, finding some evidence there, etc.
Proving PJ isn't PJ isn't going to help them. It wouldn't matter if PJ turned
out to be Darl himself (no offence PJ, but having seen their other strategies,
nothing would surprise me now). There is still Groklaw and it is still beating
SCO's legal team around the head by using the truth, not just PJ's opinion, but
actual proof with links to all the evidence![ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: om1er on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 07:21 PM EDT |
What is it with Dark Darl and SUPER-SECRET evidence? Evidence that will just
blow you away when you see it (but he isn't quite ready to show it yet)?
Would someone send those jokers the story about the shepherd boy who cried wolf
too many times? We're onto you, McBride and Co.
---
Keeping an eye on the bouncing ball.[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: snorpus on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 07:31 PM EDT |
Clearly Groklaw is too large an undertaking for one person to manage (thinks
Darl), and so PJ must be a nom de plume for a large collection of people.
The entire staff in Armonk is one possibility, but another is that it's the
infamous Jones Gang that's behind it all.
Some members of the Jones
Gang include:
- George Jones
- Parnelli Jones
- Jim Jones
- Smarty
Jones
- Shirley Jones
- Basketball Jones
- Quincy Jones
- Tom Jones
(twice!)
--- 73/88 de KQ3T ---
Montani Semper Liberi
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- The Jones Gang - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 07:37 PM EDT
- The Jones Gang - Authored by: dc on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 07:51 PM EDT
- The Jones Gang - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 07:57 PM EDT
- The Jones Gang - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 08:01 PM EDT
- The Jones Gang - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 09:09 PM EDT
- The Jones Gang - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 09:41 PM EDT
- The Jones Gang - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 11:13 PM EDT
- The Jones Gang - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 03:27 PM EDT
- Monkees - Authored by: snorpus on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 07:47 PM EDT
- Re: too large ... for one person - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 11:43 PM EDT
- The Jones Gang - Authored by: darthaggie on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 09:59 AM EDT
- The Jones Gang - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, April 15 2005 @ 12:35 PM EDT
- And don't forget Casey! - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, April 15 2005 @ 07:08 PM EDT
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 07:37 PM EDT |
I didn't find the story funny, just seemed rather sad.
But judging by the other comments I'm in the minority, so
I guess it doesn't matter. [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 07:48 PM EDT |
Darl took the time to explain that there was lots of misinformation coming from
groklaw.
However, Darl never says B, and Mims forgot to ask:" "Exactly, with
specificity, state which misinformation from groklaw you are referring to. And
don't tell me it is too much to mantion it all. Just give us 2 examples of
specific instances of groklaw misinforming the world about the SCO/IBM
lawsuit.".[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 07:54 PM EDT |
I missed the conference call, but would like to know what was said (not 2nd hand
accounts of snippets)
Is there a recording or transcript of one anywhere?
Does anybody know if one is planned?
Thanks
Quatermass
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Authored by: Ninguino on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 08:26 PM EDT |
I guess Darl has finally find out the secret identity of the Tooth Fairy, whom,
in collusion with Santa, helped Linus perpetrate that infamous Linux thing ...
But, before disclosing the whole history to the world, they need to catch her on
the spot. I can envision him, side by side with Mr. Evil, waiting till midnight,
undercover, while the teeth is hiding under the pillow, all anxious, knowing who
close they are, finally, to catch her, so the world can know the truth,
BWAHAHAHAHAHA...
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Authored by: arch_dude on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 08:33 PM EDT |
Back in 2003 we occasionaly discussed the famous quote attributed to Mahatama
Ghandi:
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then
you win."
It look like PJ and Groklaw have reached the third stage.
Congratulations, PJ!
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Authored by: Trithemius on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 08:39 PM EDT |
There we go, new T-shirts, warm up the Cafe Press!
Front:
I AM PJ
Back:
Groklaw, because knowledge is power.
Rock the scoundrels!
What do you think? I'd buy one.[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: producer on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 08:45 PM EDT |
Dear Darl,
A fundamental part of the game is never to react or show emotion. Since you
can't deny Pj's existence, you attempt to deny her identity. Any student in
Psych.101 can tell you that is an act of total and utter desperation. In a stare
down, you are not supposed to blink. You, on the other hand, are at the point
of developing an uncontrollable eye twitch.
Chronic denial can often be followed by a manifestation of multiple
personalities that attempt to deal with the most afflicting of the denied
entities and their associated traits.
This leads me to the question: Can you produce photographic evidence of yourself
and either M O'G or L. DiD. together in the same room at at the same time?[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 09:17 PM EDT |
My take on Darl's remark:
PJ says she wants to remain (visually) anonymous, Darl simply hopes that his
remark will spur the press to "out" her and thereby disrupt Groklaw.
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Authored by: Zarkov on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 09:19 PM EDT |
What Darl totally fails to realise is that it does not matter one whit who PJ
really is.
What PJ has done is to provide a forum for all of the OTHER contributors and
volunteers to Groklaw whose combined efforts are only moderated rather than
directed by PJ. Now that the forum is in place, the momentum gained over the
duration of this case is unstoppable.
Even assuming that PJ wasn't a real person, (I believe she is), one can assume
that at least one of the hundreds of other contributors must be real... Darls
problem is that atempting to 'expose' PJ will have no impact whatsoever on the
outing of the truth behind his lies... If anything he just solidifies PJ's
position by giving the community one more reason to rally around and support
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Authored by: toads_for_all on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 09:40 PM EDT |
To Darl McBride:
Since we know you read this site, Darl, who is PJ REALLY?
You seem to be the only person that really cares. And it makes you sound
desperate. You've tried this sort of thing all along, and it really has gotten
you nowhere. SCOSource is failing because you keep up the "we can't tell
you what SCO IP is in Linux now, but when we do, boy will you be
surprised". Nobody is buying it, literally. You talk about credability,
yet you yourself have none left.
Thing is, Darl, PJ is not the source (no pun intended) of your troubles. YOU
are. Maybe you started this whole thing with good intentions, I doubt it, but
maybe. Your attempts to try your case in the media are what have been your
undoing. You yourself have given the FOSS community the ammunition to fight
back. You should have kept quiet, or at least have had SOMETHING to back up
your claims. You could have kept the comments to factual matters, and simply
dismissed anything the FOSS community might have said as propaganda. But you
didn't. Your own propaganda has been exposed time and time again. You've
sounded off so many times that no one is listening anymore.
You've handled the whole thing very badly, and have really done a disservice to
SCO's shareholders, a group which now includes someone you seem to consider a
good friend.
It doesn't matter who PJ is. Her identity will not change the facts of the
case, any more than your own overblown rhetoric will.
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To the rest:
I'm sure Darl intended to provoke a response from PJ in some way, and, well, he
did, but not in the way he intended. I suppose ridicule is a response.
The only thing this shows is that Darl is beginning to crack under the pressure.
I predict an extended vacation for Mr. McBride, in the very near future.
I also predict that whatever dirt Darl thinks he has on PJ will be revealed by
none other than Maureen "I hate PJ, too" O'Gara.[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 10:10 PM EDT |
Pamela Jones Stokes? [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 10:12 PM EDT |
I find it refreshing that we've come from fearing the end of open source all the
way to finding SCOXE's quarterly conference call a brief encounter with the
theatre of the absurd. Even Darl furnished more than a few moments of no doubt
unintended levity. Now if the Nazgul will only oblige us by maintaining their
recent trend toward targeting the nonsensical legal maneuvers of SCOXE.....[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 10:20 PM EDT |
as it seems you read here, to paraphrase "People will Talk";
McBride, you're
a little man. It's not that you're short. You're...little, in the
mind and in
the heart. Today, you tried to make a woman little whose boots you couldn't
touch if you stood on tiptoe on top of the highest mountain in the world. And
as it turned out...you're even littler than you were before.
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Authored by: dmarker on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 10:20 PM EDT |
2 points here ...
1) How many letters does PJ have to write in defense
of herself in answer to incorect insinuations/statements from McBride.
Pamela Jones publicly
answers McBride claims re her identity - March 2004
It is over 12
months later & McBride is at it yet again. I guess the recent Groklaw
pulverisation of his best line of obfustication has unhinged the man.
2)
But this next old press release from mid 2004 is a LuLu - in it McBride admits
to carrying a handgun!. EXTRACT: "SCO chief executive Darl McBride said he now
sometimes carries a handgun"
Showdown with the Linux Gang
My
advice to PJ, don't go to any places that Darl McBride frequents, don't ever
publish a photo of yourself anywhere.
We followers of Groklaw don't want to
hear about another untimely departure of someone opposed to Mr McBride in this
saga, no matter what the circumstances.
DSM
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Authored by: rm6990 on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 10:30 PM EDT |
What did SCO say that was bad about PJ??? I must have missed it....anyone have a
link?
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 10:49 PM EDT |
It is pretty funny, isn't it? A CEO with a million dollar salary running a
company with a $60 million warchest for a pump-and-dump stock scam is utterly
humliated and defeated by some volunteers and a $35 domain called
"Groklaw".[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: droth on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 11:46 PM EDT |
I finally finished listening to the recorded quarterly conference call. Wow.
Mr. McBride sounds like his grasp on reality is really slipping. The last
caller (Bob Mims from the Tribune) asked point-blank, "...just who Pam
Jones is?"
Now that's a simple question. What do you, Darl McBride, know about Pam Jones
that other people don't?
His answer was a tap dance. "When other people learn what we have..."
"The information we've gained..." Mr. Mims asked again halfway through
the verbiage just what the SCO folks know that others don't.
Go ahead and listen to it. If anyone can detect Mr. McBride giving some fresh
bit of information about PJ, please make a note of it here. [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 11:53 PM EDT |
Groklaw: The Movie
Final Scene.
Night, closed amusement park,
police, PJ, stand around a man in a ghost costume tied
up on the ground.
Policeman: You mean there never really was a
ghost?
PJ: No, it seems our "ghost" is none other than...
[ pulling mask off man ]
Groklaw'er1: Darl
McBride!?
PJ: that's right!
Police: Well i'll
be!
PJ: It seems that Darl wanted to scare everyone away from
the
amusement park so it would close; then he could
ride the roller coaster
without waiting in line.
Darl: And i would have gotten away with it
if it hadn't been for PJ and those meddling groklawers!
PJ: Don't
worry Darl, there won't be any lines where you're going...
Policeman:
To prison!
Everyone laughs except Darl who quakes with rage.
Credits.
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, April 13 2005 @ 11:59 PM EDT |
Isn't this where he's supposed to puff up his chest, beat it, and rant for an
hour on how things were back when he was in law enforcement and how the
injustices of Groklaw are an utter offence to his delicate sensibilities?
I'm just sure he is the one doing all of SCO's detective work on PJ.....[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 12:18 AM EDT |
...and about to fight Mike
Tyson? [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: BubbaCode on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 12:40 AM EDT |
As a very long time Groklaw reader and rare poster of comments I have to say
that Darl's comments are just plain wierd. What a strange obsession! "We
are try to find out who Pam Jones is and we are very near the bottom" And
then what? "Miss Jones we know who you are and what you write. Stop or
else" Isn't there something like the 1st amendment? The other are
"accountable" NO THEY ARE NOT!! They are protected just like Groklaw
is protected. You don't think the regular press can't say bad things about SCO
and hasn't? THEY HAVE.
All Groklaw does is post the complete (as much as possible) legal record and
timeline with some basic comments and then lets everyone comment. Boy is Darl
ever scared of the truth.
This is a pattern from Darl. There is always some mystical group behind things.
And anyone who says anything bad about SCO or him is just "rabid",
"nuts" or "ridiculus". Remember his comment about how
Linux must be from Unix because "look how far they have come in such a
short time"
I STILL think that ALL of this is from Darl is to distract. Distract from the
case. Distract from the financials. Distract from the odd and possibly illegal
"sco license" purchase from MS and Sun (remember the one with stock
options or warrents). Distract from his mismanagment of SCO. "Look over
there!! The EVIL GROKLAW!!! AHHHHHHHH"
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 01:12 AM EDT |
I don't find any humor in his quote at all, personally I find it to be a thinly
veiled threat to PJ. He's sounding like a megalomaniac willing to bully people
into submission. Have you heard of a CEO saying we are looking into a
background of an analyst when they give a sell rating on their stock? So what
business of it is his, if a person wants to cover a public legal fight of a
publicly traded company, whose CEO is known to make one too many comments to the
media? Thanks to Darl's big mouth this trial right from the beginning has been
such a big circus that the only thing missing is the little boys on a ranch in
Utah and the tabloid reporters would of been all over this to... Maybe we can
get that 13 year old boy in that IBM Linux commercial to say Darl touched him?
It's good you brought it to our attention PJ, if you feel you are ever being
tracked by any private investigator or suspicious person let us know and the
authorities. If you ever feel you are threatened let us know and we will be
more than willing to help fund any type of security arrangement you feel you may
need. I'm just one person from Canada, but I work for a company that helps
handle security requirements for numerous corporations, including 60% of the
fortune 500 companies. My relative is a member of Parliament in the Canadian
government, and my friend has a senior posting in the cities police department.
Now times this by hundred's and thousands of friends you have all over the world
- nothing can buy that kind of trust, friendship and resources that you have
access to.
In the mean time use some common safety sense. As you probably are aware a
certain amount of info is relatively easily obtainable so make sure you are
aware of any unauthorized credit checks on you, since most credit agencies store
who accessed your private info. Further more get a good 'cross cutting'
shredder for any personal info you discard.
If I were you Darl I would be less worried about PJ, and more worried about your
golden parachute, cause once SCO is dead and buried, we (Not PJ) who work in
senior management in many industries and corporations (ALL AROUND THE WORLD) are
going to make sure you don't ever work in the IT field again...
You know you are screwed when your a CEO of a publicly traded company fighting a
multi-billion dollar lawsuit, your revenue is plummeting, and you are more
worried about a paralegal's blog, yeesh :-(
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 01:16 AM EDT |
Possibly the femme fatale "Number 6" model that looks so good in a red
dress...[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: rm6990 on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 01:26 AM EDT |
Nothing to see here, move along people :-P.
All Darl was doing was trying to divert attention away from the money pit that
is SCO, and the fact that he ran the company into the ground. After the last
caller, when he paused for god knows how long, and then responded "well
that is an interesting question" and then repeated the same thing over and
over again, I knew he was bluffing.
Just ignore him
---
http://members.shaw.ca/ryan_mcgregor[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 01:49 AM EDT |
Has anyone noticed the last paragraph in eWeek, stating that
"It was that SCO, according to McBride, has reviewed Sun's plans to
open-source Solaris, which is based on SCO's Unix, and he found no problem with
what Sun is planning to do and that it will not hurt SCO's Unix intellectual
property rights."
Huh?
What does this mean for their (so-called) case against IBM? Doesn't it hurt this
(mortally wounded?) case even further?[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 02:23 AM EDT |
He could publish that PJ is really PJ, and not have to give up his sources, or
her true idenity.
Dennis
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 02:27 AM EDT |
Haha, I can imaging darl now, sitting in a utility closet on the top floor of
SCO(m) HQ.
Bundled up into a human ball he sits there in a dark damp corner holding a
broomstik for protection.
He shakes a little and some small drops of sweat keep dripping over his forhead
everytime he violently turns his head and manacly rolls his eyes in every
possible direction.
sometimes you hear him whisper something but you just cant make it out because
he constantly makes tapping sounds on the broomstik.
but every so often he starts to really shake and sweat and start screaming
" I KNOW.. HAAAAAAA AHHAHAAA I KNOW WHO YOU ARE PAMELA JONES.
HAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA YOU CAN'T GET ME HERE, I'M SUPER DAARRRRLL
WHOAAAAAAAAAAAAHHAHAHAAAAAA .... KEEEEEEEEEP AWAY !!!!!!!!!!!!"
( this could be painfully closer to the truth then anybody can imagine !!!, Oww
the mere thought !! )
Retep Vosnul!.
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 02:28 AM EDT |
That's what it's called, I think.
And that's what Darl is doing to PJ.
So I guess all PJ has to do is start a court action against Darl and proof the
exists, which shouldn't be too difficult; appear in court and you're done :)
Really, if SCO truely thought PJ was a shill, they would have started a case
against her a year ago. It's not like they don't like to waste the judges' time
or anything.[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: TheBlueSkyRanger on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 02:38 AM EDT |
Hey, everybody!
Since Darl is so determined to spread FUD about Ms. Jones (I haven't posted
enough to think I've earned the right to call her PJ yet), I'm going to, just
for a moment, attempt to take this seriously. After all, the yux are nice, but
the best way to take this down is with facts.
Does Ms. Jones really exist? Consider when she resigned her job because she
didn't want to give the impression of conflict of interest. It was covered by
the tech press, with quotes from her. Not the web site, from her. They had to
talk to somebody, and I think if it was someone like where speculation is
pointing, someone would have pounced on it. Heck, DiDio would be on it like
cheese on pizza.
I would also look at the fact that publishers have been asking her to write a
book about all this nonsense. Once again, they have to be talking to somebody.
Either this is the biggest, most complicated scam since "Ocean's
Eleven" or someone is not thinking things through.
There is a bright side to this, though: think of it as an intelligence test.
Anyone that buys what Darl is selling is not someone you want to trust to make a
judgement.
Dobre utka,
The Blue Sky Ranger[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 02:54 AM EDT |
Well, this site is "Groklaw © Copyright 2003-2005 Pamela Jones".
I know enough copyright law to know that this is an invalid copyright if
"Pamela Jones" is not either a person or an incorporated body.
Therefore either PJ exists as PJ, or PJ is a corporation (can't find that
registration anywhere), or all this stuff is uncopyrighted ...
hmmm .... nah!
J[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: TAZ6416 on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 02:57 AM EDT |
1) She lives and works in America
2) Her surname is Jones so she's Welsh.
3) Welsh people with the surname Jones are known by the surname, then
profession, if you were a butcher you would be known as Jones The Butcher. You
should watch Ivor The Engine for
more info.
4) Being Welsh she will be dressed always like This.
So, basically if you
see a woman walking around America with a red shawl and a tall hat made out of
hard board, shout "Hello Jones The Paralegal" at her, if she responds it's PJ.
Jonathan[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: darkonc on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 04:10 AM EDT |
Pamela Jones is a short, blonde, attractive and very capable Canadian
criminal lawyer who studies martial arts and ...
Oh, that
Pamela Jones!!
Never met the woman. --- Powerful, committed
communication. Touching the jewel within each person and bringing it to life.. [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Eagle on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 05:14 AM EDT |
- If SCO had done their homework and watched more bad B-movies (but wait a
minute... if they don't, where else do they get their business ideas from?),
they would have known that Pamela Jones made an appearance in Epoch AKA Torus. Alien
artefacts, accelerated evolution, changing the face of the Earth and stuff...
and SCO&MS thought bringing down Operating System monopolies was as bad as
it gets!
Now that
Linus has almost revealed himself as an alias of Santa Claus...- PJ, are
you really the Tooth Fairy? ;-) (This might explain the expression on Darl's
face...)
- When this is over, will you also go back to studying "the
fascinating mating dance of the common newt"?
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Authored by: cmc on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 05:22 AM EDT |
I read the other comments, and didn't see this mentioned (forgive me if my tired
eyes passed over it unintentionally):
What does it matter who or what PJ is? Personally, I believe that PJ exists as
a female from the U.S., but who really cares? Who or what PJ is doesn't matter.
What matters is what PJ does. PJ provides information, and shows us where we
can find that information for ourselves, and tells us to make our own judgements
and form our own opinions. In that regard, it doesn't matter if PJ is a woman,
man, IBM, SCO, or Prince (also known as the artist formerly known as "The
Artist Formerly Known As Prince").
The point is that Groklaw is an indispensable repository of information.
Information which is provided so that we can get as complete a picture as
possible. Without this information, we would have to rely on the bits and
pieces from those parties involved (and their henchmen/henchwomen otherwise
known as "journalists"). Personally, I don't care who are what PJ is.
I'm just happy for the service that PJ provides to all of us.
However, since we're on conspiracy theories and the sort, if PJ is not a woman,
I would guess that PJ is really the Easter Bunny. We know that "Linus
Torvalds" is really the partnership of Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy, so
it only seems logical that PJ would be the only other most recognizable
individual, one whom has never been seen in person, I might add. It can't be a
coincidence!
cmc
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Authored by: Naich on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 05:40 AM EDT |
"we're digging into who Pam Jones is, and we're close to the bottom."
PJ! Stop mooning Darl. It's very rude, you know.[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: cinly on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 06:32 AM EDT |
Sounds like the "millions line of code", "MIT Maths team"
argument to me.
Given that they eared an "E" for being late to file important
financial reports, and that for a BIG lawsuit like IBM they are dragging their
heels, lets says McBride have 3 years research to do + 3 years discovery when
they say they are "near the bottom".
Would like to see what they dig up. That would be legal slander if they said
untrue things. However, suing them is probably a problem: They will simply drag
their heels.
---
All views expressed here are my own and do not reflect that of any institution I
am affiliated to[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: heretic on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 06:51 AM EDT |
I believe that Darl is trying to get the mainstream press to "prosecute" PJ
and GrokLaw, rather than have the legal system doing it, which would have been
the proper way if PJ and GrokLaw had been guilty of smearing mud and SCO's
reputation.
By having the press do the job the editorial content of
GrokLaw will not have to be examined in court and selective quotes from the
comment section can be used as representating the views and content of GrokLaw.
This is just the same way of doing litigation as he started off with against
IBM.
Having the court examine PJ and GrokLaw would probably be a
disaster for Darl and SCO. Even worse if it meant that Judge Kimball then had to
read all the stuff here.
This is yet another Darlian method; Accuse your
opponent of doing exactly what you are doing yourself. It probably makes it
easier to look in the mirror every morning. I believe it is called projection
;-)
To Darl: PJ is PJ and that is all there is to it.
To me she
is something new and wonderful (patentable maybe ;-) ). She has managed to
activate a large and disparate community with a common goal.
heretic[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: apessos on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 07:19 AM EDT |
<i>"we're digging into who Pam Jones is, and we're close to the
bottom."</i>
That's just like SCO. They are always so close to the answer, yet always so far
away. If they find out who PJ is that'll probably be the first new piece of
information they've brought forward in the last two years...[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 07:22 AM EDT |
SCO's CEO would not go so far as to say Jones was working for IBM, but "we're
digging into who Pam Jones is, and we're close to the bottom."
I
wonder if any MIT deep divers are involved.
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Authored by: Peter Simpson on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 07:45 AM EDT |
Groklaw was around long before Darl started his "our code is in Linux"
extortion scheme, so how could PJ be some mysterious force out to get him and
SCO?
(I know this, because I was reading Groklaw before all the fun started, and I
had bookmarked it as a useful and interesting site)[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 08:13 AM EDT |
Poor Darl just can't keep up with the Jones'
no matter how hard he tries.
You know, all this time I thought PJ was
really Elvis Presley come back from the dead.
Oh well ...
I'll just keep reading Groklaw regardless. Groklaw
is perhaps the ONLY place on the web where real truth
can be found.
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 08:55 AM EDT |
WARNING to those of too sensitive a disposition
If ol' Darl is
getting "near the bottom" of PJ I think she should be very, very careful where
she sits down...
I think she need to make sure, (as you Americans say),
she's got her butt covered...
Then again, it's just as probable that ol'
Darl has another load of bum information anyway... he sould stop buying from
"Trotters Independent Trading" (do you get Only Fools and Horses where you are?) [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 09:58 AM EDT |
PJ -
My sister had a situation similar to this after her husband passed from
complications treating leukemia. She lived in a small town, and all kinds of
rumors started flying.
One of which was that the Corvette she purchased (after he passed) was purchased
with the money that was donated to "family choice" charity. To
correct this rumor, rather than getting upset (as you have already refrained
from), she purchased a quarter page advertisement in the local paper, and
published the letter from the Cancer and Lymphoma Society thanking her for the
contribution she had made. This letter, of course, stated the exact amount of
the donation (they send it for tax purposes, usually). She then wrote a letter
to the editor stating that she put it in the paper to thank everyone who was not
able to receive the letter personally, as they did not donate directly to the
society.
As was stated by one of her employees, it was the greatest chocolate covered
explative that could have been handed out.
Perhaps there's a method of doing this with SCO.[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: tz on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 10:11 AM EDT |
You don't have to be an ubergeek to coordinate an opensource or other open
project. Linus wrote the kernel, but there is a lot more really, really good
code in the kernel that Linus would never have been able to write. Then there's
the applications.
PJ shines as a coordinator. All she does is provide the forum and collects
documents (most are found and transcribed by others). This is not to minimize
here function - she is the hub around which all else revolves.
He doesn't understand that the open commons paradigm is different - the
synergies multiply because it is open. And no person or small set of people
(the BSD cathedral to use one of ESRs terms) can accomplish what simply creating
a commons does.
McBride has to assume PJ is some kind of super-person because he can't imagine
that she can leverage hundreds or thousands of contributors.
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Authored by: piskozub on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 10:19 AM EDT |
PJ admitted it about herself: "The truth is, I'm an alien from a galaxy far,
far away....".
This clue helped me find a real photo of PJ on the Web!
Here it is:
http://www1
.uol.com.br/jogos/reportagens/images/pj_alien.gif
The photo quality is
not first class but it seems PJ looks really dangerous! [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: thechuckster on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 10:49 AM EDT |
Perhaps Darl's newfound touchiness comes from watching former HIH
and FAI
director Rodney Adler's decent
Rodney has learnt the hard way - if you
stick to your lie for long enough,
the smell will bury you
What began
with misleading statements about particular share trades -
which were actually
proping up the company's share price - has ended up
with the CEO being sent off
to jail for 4 years
The Sydney Morning Herald said "The former chief
executive of FAI
Insurance had pleaded guilty to two counts of disseminating
information
knowing it was false, one of obtaining money by false or misleading
statements, and one of being intentionally dishonest and failing to discharge
his duties as a director of HIH in good faith and in the best interests of the
company ..." (www.smh.com.au - registration needed i think)
At some
point, the stories we tell come back to haunt us ... et tu Darl?
Charles from Oz [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: raynfala on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 11:05 AM EDT |
I predict: McBride will reveal PJ's "true identity" on the same day
that they specify the lines of infringing code to IBM.
--Raynfala
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 11:49 AM EDT |
I've been to Ambergris Caye a few times. Yes, it's a wonderful place, but not
for someone whose loves are "golfing and gambling". :-,)
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 12:08 PM EDT |
One thing the article points out (the eWeek link, not the parody) is the
ambiguity with SCO's stance on Solaris being open sourced, which has to contain
significant portions of Unix.
I really can't fathom how they can not have a problem with that, yet go after
IBM for open sourcing their *own* code that just happens to have been released
in AIX also.
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- Solaris - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 03:17 PM EDT
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 12:25 PM EDT |
I'm serious. See if some mainstream talk show will pick
up the story, and give an in-person interview, together
with some basic history on where you grew up, went to
school, etc. that can be easily verified. You don't have
to give your home address or phone number. It would be a
great opportunity to let more of the world what a lying
group of swindlers SCO are. (You wouldn't have to call
them "lying swindlers" of course, just display a few
examples and let the facts speak for themselves). [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 12:31 PM EDT |
Partial List of Scoxe Lies:
1) Lie: Scoxe will revoke IBM's rights to sell, distribute, or use UNIX.
Truth: Scoxe does not have the authority to revoke IBM's UNIX rights.
2) Lie: Scoxe will audit AIX users.
Truth: Scoxe never did such an audit, and has no rights to do such an audit.
3) Lie: Scoxe owns C++.
Truth: Scoxe may own a very old obsolete version called cfront.
4) Lie: The Berkeley Packet Filter code in Linux is "obfuscated" Scoxe
code.
Truth: Jay Schulist, who never had access to Scoxe code, implemented it from
scratch.
5) Lie: We've gone in, we've done a deep dive into Linux, we've compared the
source code of Linux with UNIX every which way but Tuesday
Truth: Experts have shown that Scoxe used a simple, primitive text search based
on a few keywords.
6) Lie: The IP protection legal team is on pure contingency
Truth: The legal team demanded cash in advance. BSF is now billing at $2 Million
per quarter, plus an up to 33% contingency fee on settlement, winning, and
change of control. BSF also rejected shares of scoxe stock as a substantial part
of their compensation.
7) Lie: We will show rock solid evidence at SCOForum in Las Vegas
Truth: Scoxe was quickly shown to not have any ownership of the SCOForum
evidence. The source code displayed at SCOForum might have been considered an
honest mistake, if Sontag hadn't continued to dispute what was already
irrefutably proven.
8) Lie: SCO's 2002 UNIX source release was "non-commercial" and
excludes 32-bit code
Truth: "The text of the letter, sent January 23, 2002, by Bill Broderick,
Director of Licensing Services for Caldera [now SCO], in fact makes no mention
of "non-commercial use" restrictions, does not include the words
"non-commercial use" anywhere and specifically mentions "32-bit
32V Unix" as well as the 16-bit versions."
9) Lie: non-compete clause in the Novell agreement.
Truth: There was such a clause in the Novell / Old SCO purchase agreement, but
it was overriden by a change in control provision when Caldera bought out Old
SCO's Unix assets.
10) Lie: Scoxe claims that Linux header files are "infringing code."
Truth: The header files are provably original and are noncopyrightable in any
event.
11) Lie: We have been off meeting for the last several months with large
corporate Linux end users. The pipeline is very healthy there.
Truth: The pipeline is empty. All inquiries have been to assess SCO's claims and
liability exposure.
12) Lie: SCO's expert witnesses are "MIT Mathematicians".
Truth: Among various backpedaling statements, Paul Hatch, a Scoxe spokesman,
wrote in a statement to The Tech ,"'To clarify, the individuals reviewing
the code had been involved with MIT labs in the past, but are not currently at
MIT." ither Scoxe lied to the public (saying they existed) or Scoxe lied to
the court (saying they didn't exist).
13) Lie: "several" other Linux license sales Scoxe has claimed to have
made since the first.
Truth: According to SCO's SEC filings, scoxe has sold *very* linux licenses, and
even those are highly suspect.
14) Lie: the introductory price for licenses that was to increase on Oct 15
2003.
Truth: Once again, Scoxe changed their minds.
15) Lie: Scoxe claimed it would file against RedHat for copyright infringment
and conspiracy
Truth: No such charges were filed
16) Lie: Scoxe was going to appeal the fine imposed in Germany.
Truth: that never happend.
17) Lie: RedHat opposes software copyrights (Darl's open letter).
Truth: unlike SCO, RedHat respects copyrights.
18) Lie: entire sales force selling Linux "licenses."
Truth: if the entire sales force consists of one person, that person must not be
very busy.
19) Lie: Invoices will be mailed to Linux users by October 15, 2003.
Truth: No invoices were ever mailed.
20) Lie: Scoxe did not know of code additions.
Truth: Scoxe was participant in process and many additions were made by Scoxe
employees.
21) Lie: Scoxe received the D&T Fast 500 recognition because of the strong
UNIX market, IP enforcement and the Web services strategy
Truth: Scoxe made the list because of revenue growth due exclusively to the
Tarantula acquisition.
22) Lie: We have done additional signups for Linux end-user licenses. We have a
number of folks that are in the evaluation process, and we definitely have a lot
of interest in what's going on there.
Truth: During the earnings conference, Scoxe admitted that not a single Linux
end-user license has been sold. Follow-on guidance comments warn that no such
sales are expected in Q1.
23) Lie: Scoxe will Sue a Linux End User by 2/28/04.
Truth: Scoxe never sued anybody for just using Linux.
24) Lie: Our claims are not trivial.
Truth: Based on evidence provided to date, SCO's claims are extremely trivial,
debunked in a matter of hours
25) Lie: claims that Scoxe has are both broad and deep.
Truth: SCO's has made a breach of contract claim and a copyright infringement
claim; all evidence presented to date has shown each of these claims to be
trivial and unfounded
26) Lie: These claims touch not just IBM, but other vendors as well.
Truth: Exhaustive code reviews by other SYSV licensees, including HP and SGI,
have shown that the only Linux/SysV overlap concerns a small amount of public
domain code.
27) Lie: During a road tour, Blake Stowell indicated that core operations were
profitable in Q3.
Truth: Core operations lost $3.8MM in Q3-03.
28) Lie: Scoxe in low-level talks with Google about a SCOsource licence
Truth: apparently, another "I've got a secret" story from Darl.
29) Lie: Scoxe threathed to sue the entire movie industry over their use of
Linux server farm for image rendering
Truth: No such lawsuit was filed.
30) Lie: Scoxe knows the true identy of Pamala Jones, Scoxe knows that Pamala is
not who she claims to be.
Truth: apparently, another "I've got a secret" story from Darl.
31) Lie: Scoxe "bought" vultus.
Truth: One canopy company swapping stock with another
32) Lie: Scoxe Profitable Q4 in 2003.
Truth: Scoxe counts one time revenue, but does doesn't count one time expenses.
33) Lie: GPL unconstitutional.
Truth: Unique legal theory, to say the least.
34) Lie: Scoxe owns Unix.
Truth: Yeah right, Scoxe owns everything except for the copyrights, trademark,
and patents.
35) End users liable for IP infringement in Linux, if any.
Truth: Another unique legal theory. There are no copyright violations filed, so
end-users can't be guilty of copyright violation. Linux end-users don't have a
contract with scox, so it can't be trade secrets.
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- Truth? - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 12:58 PM EDT
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 01:07 PM EDT |
How fast will this post be removed?
"I originally wanted to stay anonymous, in a sense, by just saying PJ.
Eventually media attention and other factors made it impossible to remain just
PJ but I would have if I could have. I have no desire to be famous, for one
thing. And I have been creatively influenced by Scott McCloud's work. He points
out in Understanding Comics (p. 45-51) in a section on iconic representation
that people respond most strongly to a drawing of a character that simplifies to
the point that anyone can identify with the character. I guess I was hoping for
that effect. In other words, I was hoping people could assume whatever they
wanted and just focus on what I said, rather than on who was saying it. For that
reason, I chose PJ, because it could be anyone, either sex, any nationality,
anyone and no one in particular. I wanted participation by anyone interested in
the SCO story. No politics. Nothing extraneous. Just an effort to locate and
provide evidence that could be useful. I knew the community could answer SCO, if
they just knew what was needed. And they have"
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- yeah, so? - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 01:59 PM EDT
- Really? - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 02:32 PM EDT
- Does it matter? - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 04:15 PM EDT
- yeah, so what? - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 03:06 PM EDT
- In "Her" Own Words - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 02:37 PM EDT
- In "Her" Own Words - Authored by: rm6990 on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 03:52 PM EDT
- Genuine photo of 'Pamela Jones' but ... - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 11:27 PM EDT
- Smells like ... looks like ... - Authored by: bmcmahon on Friday, April 15 2005 @ 04:12 AM EDT
- Your post invalidates all analysis on GL..surely - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, April 15 2005 @ 10:29 AM EDT
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 01:07 PM EDT |
I can practically hear thousands of fantasists Grokbots shuddering from here. [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 01:21 PM EDT |
Wow. I just read some of the news stories about McBride's remarks, and while
questions of his sanity...
Does he actually know who uses this site? Obviously not. Throughout my youth I
was on the fringes of computing without the money to actually become as
competent as the rest of my family. This put me in the peculiar position of
knowing the voices of the community better than I knew the discipline. To this
day I will make jokes about computer users being involved in ceremonial
magick....
The diversity of voices on these message boards makes me wonder if he knows what
the concept of relevence is. You could be an agent of the Lord or of the Lady
(IANAM) and it would make no difference to those of us who use this place.
Is he just blowing off steam or is he trying to convince us he's funny?
-jplatt39
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 06:08 PM EDT |
PJ has her full right to be anonymous on the internet.
If Darl & Co had any incriminating evidence against her, and that evidence
was retrieved lawfully, SCO would be in their right to subpoena her. The fact
that 2 years has gone by, and we have not seen a subpoeana of PJ from SCO,
should tell us that SCO has nothing that can stand up in court. In fact it is
the opposite. By sticking to very high journalistic standards, and very
responsibly weeding out ad hominem attacks on the site, PJ has established an
impeccable record. If SCO subpoenad her, she might end up having to testify in
SCO vs IBM, and suddenly, SCO's only trump card, playing David vs Goliath in
front of a jury, would be lost. A well-behaved, modest woman being exposed to
hostile cross-examination by corporate crooks would backfire badly in SCO's
face.
What Darl failed to do, was to say with specificity what he meant by
misinformation. He did not mention a single case of PJ spreading
misinformation. If we were to talk about journalists spreading misinformation,
we can list plenty of cases: MOG, Enderle, Didio, Lyons.
But none of these reach the level of misinfomation copnsistently put out by Darl
himself over the past 2-3 years.
For the next conference call, I propose that we prepare a comprehensive list of
questions to ask SCO, and for each question, include quotations of past SCO
contradictions, and research the archives to make sure the quotations are
correct.
Then, before the next conference call, put the questions on the groklaw front
page. Do it several days in advance. SCO's countermove will likely be to address
some of the questions before they get to the Q&A part of the call, but
that's fine with us, and only increases the likelyhood that it will be picked up
by the press. Doing it well in advance will also let journalists do their own
research in advance. Someone like Bob Mims would not use these questions unless
he could verify that they are indeed questions that need asking.
And finally, the questions can not be too much tied to the litigation, since it
would give Darl an easy excuse not to comment.
Here is question one:
At your previous CC, you referred to groklaw-land as spreding misinformation.
Could you comment on what kind of misinformation is being spread, if it is at
the editorial level(by PJ), or by individual posters?
To this, Darl must admit that it was either just innuoendo, or that he had
nothing, or most likely he will pick an example where it turns out groklaw was
correct, and Darl was wrong.
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Authored by: dmarker on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 08:47 PM EDT |
Clicky ...
Internetnews.com
McBride & PJ
DSM [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 14 2005 @ 11:38 PM EDT |
Didn't Jeff Merkey say he knows PJ, and that he talked to Darl . I guess that's
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Authored by: SammyTheSnake on Friday, April 15 2005 @ 11:39 AM EDT |
Well, since you ask, I actually think it *does* have a nice ring to it...
Cheers & God bless
Sam "SammyTheSnake" Penny[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, April 15 2005 @ 11:49 AM EDT |
"... I've never said anything personal about myself, actually. ..."
I seem to recall an article when you visited some Linux conference and
you said you were too shy to introduce yourself to some prominent figures. That
sounds like personal info to me. [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, April 15 2005 @ 11:53 AM EDT |
I have it! Darl will show the evidence of PJ's non-existance to anyone who is
willing to sign an NDA on the subject!
Maureen, where are you?
Perpetual_Newbie - too lazy to sign in.[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, April 15 2005 @ 02:18 PM EDT |
I don't know why Darl is so obsessed with who PJ is. Maybe he wants a date?
*grin*
But, Groklaw basically just posts the legal documents. Sure, PJ adds commentary.
But that commentary in no way actually affects the legal case. It just affects
people's perception of the case, and that, I'm pretty sure, is the real reason
why Darl likes to throw out innuendo about the 'sinister' identity of PJ.
If you can't discredit someone's arguments logically, attack the person and hope
people don't notice. It doesn't even matter if your innuendo has any basis in
truth, because the point of innuendo is never to arrive at truth, but rather to
distract the gullible from the truth. Truth is: even if PJ really *were* any of
those things Darl says, it STILL DOESN'T MATTER. The legal documents of the case
are what they are, and anyone can read them and try to decide for themselves
what they mean. Darl and Co. are free to offer their own commentary (oh, right,
that's worked well for them so far. . .).
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Authored by: JamesHall on Friday, April 15 2005 @ 03:01 PM EDT |
PJ is really ... ermm... ermm.. Morgan Fairchild... yeah.. that's it... that's
the ticket....
And.. that's ermm... ermm...all the required evidence to support.. that Linux
contains millions upon ermm... no...billions yeah.. billions...of lines of
directly copy and pasted code that only SCO could ever have owed... yeah..
that's it...
And.. and... yeah.... all the current cases pending.. should.. yeah...
immediately be resolved in SCO's favor.. yeah...
that's it... that's the ticket.
heh
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Authored by: BoredByPolitics on Friday, April 15 2005 @ 05:07 PM EDT |
A measured take on the bluster that is SCO over at
Computer Business Review:
SCO
blames Groklaw for IP licensing disappointment.
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Pete [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Wesley_Parish on Sunday, April 17 2005 @ 07:42 AM EDT |
PJ's actually the pseudonym of Spongebob Squarepants,
isn't it so?!?
That's the secret!
Unless it's Ren and Stimpy, taking time off
from the
rigors of being Royal Kilted Yaksmen? Nah!
--- finagement: The Vampire's veins and Pacific torturers stretching back
through his own season. Well, cutting like a child on one of these states of
view, I duck [ Reply to This | # ]
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