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| Authored by: webster on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 07:36 AM EST |
Well-deserved. Thanks, PJ for creating it.
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 07:40 AM EST |
Patick Henry, Benjamin Franklin, and Thomas Jefferson would be proud of the free
speech and expression. The ability to show all that's going on and the enormous
intellectual resources contributed to expose the facts, put the spin and fud
under the spotlight. You can't get away with much when it's all exposed in the
open.
Well done and very well deserved.
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| Authored by: leguirerj on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 07:40 AM EST |
| Congrats PJ, you are doing more for Linux and FOSS that most. [ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: overshoot on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 07:45 AM EST |
The obligatory OT stuff -- please use <a href="">clickable
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- OT - New funding strategy for TSCOG - Authored by: Totosplatz on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 08:32 AM EST
- Microsoft should be forced to open source Microsoft Windows because of efforts like Groklaw - Authored by: clark_kent on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 08:41 AM EST
- Star Office adopted by Bristol Council. - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 08:52 AM EST
- From the press release - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 09:27 AM EST
- From the press release - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 11:28 AM EST
- No - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 11:54 AM EST
- No - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 02:26 PM EST
- Thanks - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 03:51 PM EST
- Star Office adopted by Bristol Council. - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 07:12 PM EST
- And win prizes. - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 07:36 PM EST
- OT Just an old article about the state we're in - Authored by: Brian S. on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 09:46 AM EST
- M$ being sued... - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 09:47 AM EST
- Don't copy entire articles. Keep it within fair uses (n/t) - Authored by: PolR on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 10:57 AM EST
- Slackware developer - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 11:13 AM EST
- He should be OK - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 12:00 PM EST
- Don't send drugs! - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 02:10 PM EST
- Official "The SCO Group" Positions - Authored by: jarichte on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 11:19 AM EST
- SCOX: +8.70% - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 12:00 PM EST
- Poland comes through, nixes EU patent directive - Authored by: OnlyAnEgg on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 12:42 PM EST
- Great picture of theSCO HQ - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 04:09 PM EST
- Gates ordered to testify - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 04:53 PM EST
- OT: Software Gives Parents Chance to Snoop - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 05:09 PM EST
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| Must feel good to know you can make a change, no? ;) [ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: skuggi on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 07:56 AM EST |
Congratulations PJ!
Keep the light on them!
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| Authored by: cybervegan on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 07:58 AM EST |
Maybe now's the time to post that silly picture I drew?
-cybervegan
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public if it's clean and tidy. Refusal could be due to embarrassment or shame...[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: Steve Martin on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 08:18 AM EST |
Don't forget to update the sidebar! :)
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 08:30 AM EST |
Could we have a SCO thread so that all those folks at SCO can send in their
congratulations and appreciative comments.
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Peter (too lazy to sign in)
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 08:35 AM EST |
"This is a gratifying moment and a very nice feeling.", PJ.
And what they don't get, it that you can't buy this, and it is infinitely more
powerful incentive than money.
Good Job PJ and everyone.
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| Authored by: Tim Ransom on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 08:41 AM EST |
Soon you'll need a new wing for the awards! Congratulations. More dismay for the
astroverse ;)
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 08:43 AM EST |
I have always assumed that legal activities are one of the most boring things on
this planet, even when the outcome is likely to affect you (big time!). Then I
discovered Groklaw.
The simple fact PJ is that you have constructed a site that not only presents
the raw information accurately, but provides analysis of whats going on in a
clear, concise and (most of all) interesting way. You have also incubated an
on-line community who are helpful, informative and insightful. Oh yes, and don't
forget polite - never forget that because you have set such high standards.
Any awards that Groklaw gets are justly won. You have plenty of reasons to be
proud of what you have wrought PJ. Time to party think.[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: fredex on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 08:44 AM EST |
Congratulationa, Pamela! Without your initiative (and hard work), it never would
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 08:50 AM EST |
What does it take to win a Pulitzer Prize ?
Who nominates ?
JCA
Norway[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: snorpus on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 08:59 AM EST |
| Congrats, Miss Pamela.
Now, if you could only find time to get some
sleep! ---
73/88 de KQ3T ---
Montani Semper Liberi
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 09:03 AM EST |
| Main posts in this thread may only be made by senior managers or attorneys for
"The SCO Group". Main posts must use the name and position of the poster at "The
SCO Group". Main posters must post in their official capacity at "The SCO
Group".
Sub-posts will also be allowed from non-"The SCO Group" employees or
attorneys. Sub-posts from persons not connected with "The SCO Group" must be
very polite, address other posters and the main poster with the honorific "Mr."
or "Mrs." or "Ms.", as appropriate, use correct surnames, not call names or
suggest or imply unethical or illegal conduct by "The SCO Group" or its
employees or attorneys.
This thread requires an extremely high standard of
conduct and even slightly marginal posts will be deleted.
P.J. says you must be
on your very best behavior.
If you want to comment on this thread, please
post under "O/T"
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| Authored by: rkrishnam_can01 on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 09:03 AM EST |
Congratulations!!!
Thanks for making Law and in particular IP law so interesting.
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 09:09 AM EST |
I'm sure there will be hundreds of people saying this, but I want to say it too.
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| Authored by: phrostie on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 09:19 AM EST |
Ya done good PJ.
well earned.
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phrostie
Oh I have slipped the surly bonds of DOS
and danced the skies on Linux silvered wings.
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| Authored by: icebarron on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 09:33 AM EST |
Congrats PJ, this is just one more validation of this sites worth and appeal.
You're the best
Peace to one and all
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| Authored by: Brian S. on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 09:52 AM EST |
I couldn't have done it. YOU DID!!!.
Congratulations PJ, and look after yourself.
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| Authored by: revoltn on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 10:15 AM EST |
PJ - If the world is an oyster, then you are one of the many pearls that are
sprinkled around the place.
Thank you for your dedication, focus and
charm. And thank you to everyone who made this site the number one. My cynical
hat gets put away in the cupboard for a little while.
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| Authored by: josmith42 on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 10:17 AM EST |
You know, Groklaw might not have won if PJ hadn't posted an article about it
getting nominated. I'm sure I wouldn't have voted had it not been for that
article; I wouldn't have known about it. :-)
BTW, this is not meant to
diminish the accomplishment, nor do I think this isn't well deserved; quite the
contrary. I don't know what kind of campaigning the other sites did, but the
campaigning (if one article can be called "campaigning") Groklaw did
was enough. Kudos to ya, PJ. ---
Forty-two: the answer to the question
of life, the universe, and everything. [ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: amhagp on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 10:32 AM EST |
maybe "...SCO courtroom activities" should be 'corrected' to
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| Authored by: edal on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 10:40 AM EST |
Well done to PJ, MathFox and the rest of the Groklaw team.
Ed Almos
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| Authored by: Groklaw Lurker on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 10:41 AM EST |
Because Pamela Jones has accomplished what David Copperfield has not even
attempted, transforming the world of legal briefs, depositions, courtroom
maneuvers and litigation from an arid, stodgy, tedious affair to an appealing,
dramatic and sometimes even electrifying spectacle.
My previous experiences with civil litigation could only be characterized as,
what would be an appropriate adjective...?
Dull? Boring? Drab? Interminable? Monotonous? Not to mention tiresome.
For me, this is no longer the case. PJ and Groklaw have opened my eyes to the
vista of the world of law and the elaborate scripts and adlibbed verbiage that
plays itself out in courtrooms every day. To the enormous amount of human labor
and research required to competently litigate a case in twenty first century
America. Enmeshed in these cases are wheels within wheels within wheels. A world
of intricacy, intrigue, intellects and personalities all clashing on today's
accepted field of honor, the courtroom.
Congratulations PJ, your thaumaturgical skills are unmatched in the world of
blogs, and your jounalistic and paralegal skills are pretty darn good too!
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(GL) Groklaw Lurker
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 10:45 AM EST |
I have to disagree with one of the given comments. This site is not a service to
the Linux community. Rather, not JUST the Linux community.
Groklaw is a service to every consumer, citizen, voter, computer user,
department, organization, firm and enterprise on most of the planet. No one else
will ever buy software without thinking that his or her own data may be held
hostage in an application that stops getting support or doesn't run on
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| Authored by: Greebo on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 10:59 AM EST |
| Congratulations PJ. You deserve all the praise that people have expressed
here.
Law is boring for most of us, but you've shown that Legalise can not
only be understood, but can also be intersting!, and that this is the only way
to fight the FUDsters of the world.
Thank you.
Greebo ---
PJ has
permission to use my posts for commercial use.
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 11:34 AM EST |
Congratulations to PJ and all the others making Groklaw this valuable :-))
I hope I'll not be the only one ;-))
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| Authored by: Freespirit on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 11:34 AM EST |
Guess I am not the only one who voted for Groklaw then :-)
Congrats PJ and keep up the good fight!
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 11:44 AM EST |
I think that, conspicuous among the collection of awards you're accumulating,
you should remember that Darl McBride has repeatedly expressed in public that
you're the single biggest impediment in his FUD campaign: perhaps that could be
included on the awards list as a page of Darlquotes on the subject -- the more
significant as (IIRC) he's never mentioned any other enemy by name.
"A man is known by the enemies he keeps..."[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: DK on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 11:48 AM EST |
| ... and thanks for everything! [ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: LarryVance on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 12:16 PM EST |
I still want to see that red dress used.
Congratulations on the award.
Thank you for the efforts you have donated to the FOSS community.
NEVER UNDERESTIMATE YOUR UNFLUENCE!! -- Larry Vance
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Never underestimate your influence!
IAAE - TGIANAL
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- Larry! - Authored by: Nick_UK on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 12:46 PM EST
- Larry! - Authored by: LarryVance on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 01:01 PM EST
- Larry! - Authored by: Nick_UK on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 01:43 PM EST
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| Authored by: Bas Burger on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 12:36 PM EST |
Congratulations miss Jones.
You deserve this award for several reasons in my opinion.
I am a small software developer and consultant, my very existence is only
garanteed when players of the marketplace will play by the rules.
What you do is exactly that, checking out businesses that refuse to play by the
rules, sit on their skin, zoom in onto the things they do exactly.
It seems that the impact of your site is larger than all parties would hope or
fear for.
So thanks for that and thanks for the clear moral boundries you stick to.
I have read all the people that tried to criminalize/character murder you, don't
ever excuse yourself over that, what ever the software is capable of or not,
stick to your moral values and keep emptying out posts when needed.
Other people have to learn to trust you that you do not do that for fun nor
because you want to keep information from others.
I have seen suggestions, in that way and the cry for mechanisms (software) to
keep you under surveilance, on this site, do not give into all that, people
either trust you or they never will, whatever control mechanism.
Keep up the good work and wish you all the health to continue for many years
with future things.
Yaa101.
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| Authored by: Nick_UK on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 12:40 PM EST |
Good job 'ProSCO' never went live - you would have lost...
JK'ing aside! o/ Good news. First time I ever voted in
one of things, and it was for the WINNER!!
Nick :) [ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: Latesigner on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 02:46 PM EST |
| Congrats PJ, you earned it! [ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: rsteinmetz70112 on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 02:59 PM EST |
The accolades are well deserved.
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Rsteinmetz
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| Authored by: cpw on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 03:39 PM EST |
I've been a regular visitor to this site for some time now and I never cease to
be amazed at the tremendous amount of work that goes into maintaining and
keeping Groklaw up-to-date and "on message". Well done PJ you've
earned it, and you are most definitely "making a difference" which is
something I can only aspire to. I'd also like to thank the small army of
transcribers and regular contributors who's contributions are also much
appreciated.
Thanks again to one and all,
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 03:46 PM EST |
Not only do you do a great job, you kept at it. Even when
the attacks where direct and the amount of work you were
doing amazing.
It is the continual high quality that impresses me.
Well done.
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| Authored by: mobrien_12 on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 04:28 PM EST |
Congratulations to PJ and also to all members who help make this the anti-FUD
site that it is.
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 05:10 PM EST |
"Wladyslaw Majewski, president of the Internet Society of Poland,
emphasized the economic and societal implications of software patents: "The
questionnable compromise that the EU Council reached in May was the biggest
threat ever to our economic growth, and to our freedom of communication. The
desire of the patent system and the patent departments of certain large
corporations must never prevail over the interests of the economy and society at
large."
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| Authored by: Gwen on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 06:48 PM EST |
Well done, PJ! We cannot underestimate the importance of this site and the
integrity it conveys. Like many, many folks I had become extremely jaded about
our free press. The tremendous consolidation of all forms of the traditional
media into the hands of a few has almost destroyed all faith in the reliability
of the media. Without a strong and independent press democracy has little
chance of survival. This new form of news, truth and and a lively virtual
community that you have pioneered here is so important now. Frankly Pamela,
I'm in awe. Thank you!
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, November 17 2004 @ 07:41 PM EST |
I'm the original poster. I've been lurking silently for about two years, and
happy to remain both silent and anonymous. If I violated the bar against
political comment, I apologize.
One of the great things about this group is its fundamental decency, and I can
well see why political discussion should be kept off-limits. I would only offer
the following last comment, moreso philosophical than political, and go back to
silent lurking: the impulse that leads to MS as software hegemon, is the same as
that which leads to America the global hegemon, namely greed and the urge to
dominate, the latter either for its own sake or in service to greed. Both beget
crime.
The battle against such as SCO and MS is only in part a legal battle. It goes
without saying that Groklaw is not itself a party to any of the legal battles on
which it comments. Its purpose is rather to shine a light on the wrong-doing of
those who would marginalize FOSS, and other competitors, to further illicit
hegemonic goals in the marketplace. MS is a convicted criminal enterprise in
this regard, and SCO to all appearances is latterly its co-conspirator and
surrogate, in what would make of MS, not a one-time, but an ongoing criminal
enterprise. I'm sure that in MS eyes, they are well justified in what they have
done and are doing -- American mythology about free-market capitalism can
certainly be twisted in that way. However, such ill-behavior ultimately cannot
stand the glare of exposure, and that fundamentally is the contribution of PJ,
and Groklaw. She shines a light, relentlessly and fearlessly. And she does it
with honesty, with fairness, with decency, and with uncommon wit and grace too
besides. In that way, she is the true American hero, although a twisted
capitalist mythology might want to confer such an honor on Bill Gates, and his
fellow-hegemons who now control not only the military-industrial complex, but
also the people's government. Her pen is indeed a mighty sword, and she wields
it from behind an impregnable shield, namely the very decency that is her
hallmark. She is an American, slaying an American dragon.
Now, if only we had a Groklaw to slay the dragon that the American government
has become in the world. In my opinion, the major American media are clearly
bought and paid for, and therefore not up to that task, just as surely as the
minions of the major media are wholly inadequate to take on the likes of MS --
it is hard to bite the hand that feeds. It is for the lack of decent and honest
media, that decent and honest people are misled into supporting -- MS and
government alike -- that which they would otherwise hold to be repugnant.
PJ, keep up the good work! You're an American hero.
Now, back to lurking...
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| Authored by: AllParadox on Thursday, November 18 2004 @ 12:14 AM EST |
I have to pitch in too.
There are other open sites that I just avoid. Not that I cannot deal with it,
because I can. Crusty old trial lawyers deal with the worst imaginable things.
Seriously, you don't want to know.
I have grown quite weary of insensitive insults and gratuitous obscenities. The
first two were interesting, but that was thousands of obscene posts ago.
Groklaw is my daily breath of fresh air.
Thanks again, P.J. because once again, you have earned it.
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All is paradox: I no longer practice law, so this is just another layman's
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| Authored by: moosie on Thursday, November 18 2004 @ 01:36 AM EST |
I hate to add another thread of this, but I hope you never tire of hearing it.
CONGRATS. You and this site deserve it!
- Moosie.
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| Authored by: stevem on Thursday, November 18 2004 @ 02:16 AM EST |
"... and she turned aside with tears in her eyes. For there were no more
awards to win."
;-)
Way to go Pamela!
You do realize that if you keep on this winning streak, you will run out of room
down the left hand pane of the front page?
Cheers!
- SteveM
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| Authored by: N. on Thursday, November 18 2004 @ 09:21 AM EST |
Well, we've now seen what sort of website they prefer, and it contains no
content, just themselves talking amongst themselves and slagging off GL and PJ.
With GL I actually learn something.
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N.
(Recent [well, since mid-2003] convert to Linux)[ Reply to This | # ]
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