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David Frasure's 1992 BSDi Deposition
Friday, October 22 2004 @ 04:13 PM EDT

Here's David Frasure's deposition in the BSDi case, from 1992. SCO presents it to the court and the media as an example of one of two IBM declarants contradicting himself. However, their argument, in my opinion, suffers from the same fatal flaw as it does with the 1992 Otis Wilson deposition. In both cases, the '92 depositions are talking about educational licenses, not commercial ones, so it looks to me like an apples to oranges comparison, not a contradiction.

I haven't finished reading this deposition yet -- it's about 226 pages long -- so I thought we could read it together. If you wish to compare, you can read David Frasure's declaration [ PDF] in the SCO v. IBM case and his deposition [PDF]. Needless to say, we have a lot of transcribing to do.


  


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First Posts Here
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, October 22 2004 @ 04:44 PM EDT
Oh wait, that's me.

How about Corrections Here?

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Official "The SCO Group" Positions - 8 days without an offical post
Authored by: skip on Friday, October 22 2004 @ 04:48 PM EDT
Official "The SCO Group" Positions - 7 days without an offical post
Authored by: Skip on Friday, October 22 2004 @ 08:34 AM EDT
Main posts in this thread may only be made by senior managers or attorneys for
"The SCO Group". Main posts must use the name and position of the
poster at "The SCO Group". Main posters must post in their official
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Sub-posts will also be allowed from non-"The SCO Group" employees or
attorneys. Sub-posts from persons not connected with "The SCO Group"
must be very polite, address other posters and the main poster with the
honorific "Mr." or "Mrs." or "Ms.", as
appropriate, use correct surnames, not call names or suggest or imply unethical
or illegal conduct by "The SCO Group" or its employees or attorneys.
This thread requires an extremely high standard of conduct and even slightly
marginal posts will be deleted.

P.J. says you must be on your very best behavior.

If you want to comment on this thread, please post under "O/T"



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OT posts here
Authored by: WojtekPod on Friday, October 22 2004 @ 04:50 PM EDT

The commenter deleted his comment

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OT here
Authored by: skip on Friday, October 22 2004 @ 04:51 PM EDT
should you wish to deviate from the party line :-)
(such behaviour being mandatory for FOSS)....

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Off topic and trolls here
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, October 22 2004 @ 04:54 PM EDT
Grrr... Two OT threads posted while making this one...

\Cyp

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David Frasure's 1992 BSDi Deposition
Authored by: Groklaw Lurker on Friday, October 22 2004 @ 05:42 PM EDT
PJ, there are several calls for you to delete a post to the article;

"Dueling Studies on Security and TCO in Windows and Linux"

The post is near the bottom and is very, very objectionable. Please remove it.

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End the tyranny, abolish software patents.

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Tough Going
Authored by: rsteinmetz70112 on Friday, October 22 2004 @ 05:55 PM EDT
This one gets the prize for being hardest to read.

I think I have to print it our on big paper then try to decipher the pieces in
the center of the binding.



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When are we going to have a decision on CC10?
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, October 22 2004 @ 07:02 PM EDT
When are we going to have a decision on CC10?

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David Frasure's 1992 BSDi Deposition
Authored by: josmith42 on Saturday, October 23 2004 @ 10:04 AM EDT
I'll transcribe a few pages, say 20-23, if noboby else lays a claim to them.
Let me know if you're already doing those.

James

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Claim to transcribing p. 24-27
Authored by: josmith42 on Saturday, October 23 2004 @ 11:09 AM EDT
I can't get enough! I'm doing p. 24-27 now. Again, let me know if you're
already doing that.

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Ogara is more credible
Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, October 23 2004 @ 11:17 AM EDT
Maureen Ogara is now signing her articles
over at LinuxWorld with her photo. This
certainly makes her more convincing and
credible as an author compared to PJ.

Readers appreciate and trust journalists who
don't appear to be psuedonamis.

STUDENT OF JOURNALISM

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Linux World: Supermarket tabloid of IT
Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, October 23 2004 @ 02:27 PM EDT

I guess they're trying to be the Alien Creatures Weekly of the computer world.

And their advertisers think we'll buy anything from them?


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A paralegal by the name of ...
Authored by: LarryVance on Saturday, October 23 2004 @ 06:43 PM EDT
Ruth Rideout performed the studies for AT&T licensing.

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