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Decatur Jones' Cornett: Desktop Linux Will Affect Microsoft Faster Than Expected.
Wednesday, January 28 2004 @ 01:05 PM EST

I have been given permission to share with you portions of Decatur Jones's most recent report on Novell. Dion Cornett's trip to LinuxWorld opened his eyes to how quickly people can be expected to migrate to Linux on the desktop, much more rapidly than he previously expected. He says it isn't just the price; feedback he is getting indicates it's the enhanced security.

Gates must be aware of the danger, and today he announced MS will devote even more R & D money to enhancing security. I suggest step one might be redesigning so that binaries can't be run just by clicking on an email attachment. Groklaw's comparison of Windows versus Linux security is here. And today, InfoWorld reports on a new IE 6 security hole.

The Inquirer highlights a Yankee Group study that finds 43% of small and medium businesses are worried about being dependent on Microsoft and of that group "72 percent said that they are actively seeking other vendors to diversify their portfolios", according to the Yankee Group press release about the report. Here are the relevant portions from the Decatur Jones report.


Recent diligence has enhanced our fundamental outlook for Novell, driven by overall Open Source/Linux momentum, growing enthusiasm for desktop Linux, and a clearer vision of Novell’s proprietary-to-open migration strategy. . . . This report incorporates recent information gained through customer interviews, attendance at LinuxWorld, and management feedback. Investment Considerations:

  • Desktop Linux is gathering momentum faster than previously expected;
  • Novell product roadmap is likely to be more “Open” than management comments indicate;. . .

Aided by its stance against SCO, Novell has been readily adopted by the Open Source community and is positioned for a much larger role.

Desktop Linux will affect Microsoft faster than expected. We had previously expressed skepticism with regards to Open Source software’s ability to displace Microsoft Corp. on the desktop over the next couple of years. This position was based on prior feedback from IT executives who were concerned that personnel training costs and application migration costs would largely negate any savings derived through lower license fees – even if the Linux desktop was free.

However, we believe this concern is quickly being alleviated by rapidly developing Linux desktop systems that look and function almost identically to analogous programs provided by Microsoft.

More importantly, corporations are looking to switch from Microsoft, not so much to save on licensing fees, but to potentially enhance the security of their IT infrastructures. This week’s MyDoom virus only serves to reinforce such thinking. While Microsoft blamed spread of the virus on users being duped, prior attacks such as Melissa, SoBig, and Slammer have already shaped the opinions of IT executives.

We are receiving anecdotal evidence of corporations pursuing Linux desktop projects – and not just from biased participants like IBM Corp. . . . One hardware vendor at LinuxWorld described a project already underway by an Australian telecom service provider to migrate 200,000 desktops from Windows to Linux over the next couple of years.

Security may be the reason, but the lower cost is also nice

The consensus list price for various Linux desktop solutions appears to be $100 per year per client. This compares favorably to a cost of more than $450 for Microsoft’s Windows XPTM and Office XP ProfessionalTM, which may have a life span of two to three years. (This assumes OEM pricing available to large corporate customers. Windows and Office XP Professional together cost more than $700 when purchased through a national retailer such as Best Buy.)

At volume, the cost of a Linux desktop may be as little as $50 per year and in some cases, such as Sun Microsystems Inc’s deal with China, software for a Linux desktop may be essentially free.

For modeling purposes, we have assumed Novell will generate $40 per year per Linux desktop.

Novell is the favorite for Desktop Linux

While smaller vendors like Lindows Inc. may have entered the desktop Linux market first, Novell has quickly assembled the right pieces to compete. Today, various desktop Linux solutions incorporate mix-and-match software components. However, for the Microsoft Outlook-equivalent functionality, it appears that Novell’s Ximian Evolution client is the clear favorite, as it is used by several competing desktop environments. The outlook is also generally positive with regards to Ximian’s mono project. Success in these areas of functionality provides considerable leverage to Novell in pushing its own comprehensive desktop suite, including SuSE Linux.

We believe Novell may also be in discussions to acquire Codeweavers, Inc., a firm whose software allows Windows applications to run on Linux. If accurate, such an acquisition would fill in yet another piece of the Windows-to-Linux desktop puzzle.



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Decatur Jones' Cornet: Desktop Linux Will Affect Microsoft Faster Than Expected.
Authored by: Scriptwriter on Wednesday, January 28 2004 @ 01:45 PM EST
YES. Good. Good good veryverygood.

I hope Novell makes some serious inroads into the enterprise. The other Linux
distributions can ride its coattails, and it will be a Good Thing(tm).

He who sells / What isn't his'n / Is headed for / Some time / In prison /
Burma-Shave #groklaw

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Decatur Jones' Cornet: Desktop Linux Will Affect Microsoft Faster Than Expected.
Authored by: armydude on Wednesday, January 28 2004 @ 01:46 PM EST
Man, I'd have likes to be a fly on the wall in the M$ boardroom when the
bombshell about the 200,000 seats migrated to Linux went off.

Billy-boy must have gone ballistic.

Brent J.

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Decatur Jones' Cornet: Desktop Linux Will Affect Microsoft Faster Than Expected.
Authored by: WhiteFang on Wednesday, January 28 2004 @ 01:46 PM EST
One word: Cool!

Thank you Decatur Jones for giving PJ permission to print this.

The insights are appreciated.

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Decatur Jones' Cornet: Desktop Linux Will Affect Microsoft Faster Than Expected.
Authored by: brenda banks on Wednesday, January 28 2004 @ 01:50 PM EST
Linux has arrived and is ready for the desktop
M$ can stay in denial but the facts are emerging

br3n #groklaw

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Security: New Explorer hole could be devastating
Authored by: caliboss on Wednesday, January 28 2004 @ 01:55 PM EST
New Explorer Hole Could Be Devastating

This just showed up at Infoworld. Basically, there is a hole in IE where a user can click on a file (think PDF or TXT file) and instead it downloads and opens and EXE. The article says that linking this with the http spoofing bug (as yet unfixed) could result in users downloading viri that look normal documents at real websites.


Grok the Law / Rock the World

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IBM distro?
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, January 28 2004 @ 01:56 PM EST
If they ever put out such a beast, I'd get it in a heartbeat. Actually, I'd
even buy it. :) To move into the desktop market in any serious way requires some
massive coordination, which is the principle problem with all linux distros
now--too many apps, too many dependency conflicts - we've all been there. Suse
Linux, with either KDE or Ximian is the most 'friendly' I've found (I'm sure
Lindows and others are up there as well), but still don't address some
fundamental usability issues. So why IBM? They have the manpower and resources
to truly put together a coordinated distribution that doesn't break, that's
user friendly, that has the support and reputation of a big name behind it.
Novell's hands-off approach to Suse has got to change in the long run, as it is
still too arcane and Euro-centric in its approach (i.e. German and metric
defaults, etc). Not that I have any against Europe, btw, but for a North
American company to adopt and sell a distribution to the US market requires some
modifications to their current package.

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Decatur Jones' Cornet: Desktop Linux Will Affect Microsoft Faster Than Expected.
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, January 28 2004 @ 01:59 PM EST
Ximian is a GNOME shop, and SuSE is a KDE shop. Maybe Novell will be the
catalyst for implementing better integration between these two.

(But I don't think Xandros would be please if CodeWeavers was bought out by
Novell. Xandros bundles CodeWeaver in their Deluxe Desktop.)

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Novell's strategy
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, January 28 2004 @ 01:59 PM EST
Wow. First Ximian, then Suse, and possibly CodeWeaver next?

I can't understand why Novell is putting so much effort and investment behind
building a product that everyone wants ... that's just so silly! Why don't
they just sue all their NetWare customers instead? That seems like a far more
logical and efficient business practice to me. ;)

In all seriousness, my only concern is that Novell might be overreaching and
fail to make it all work. It just seems that "Novell Linux 1.0" is
becoming almost too ambitious. I would be extremely interested at seeing a
projected time table of how they intend to roll these products out to market.

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I would like to know...
Authored by: Jude on Wednesday, January 28 2004 @ 02:07 PM EST anybody can make useful projections of "Total cost of
ownership" of a product that comes from a single monopoly source who can
charge whatever price the market will bear?

I think this question is particularly interesting when it's a product that puts
(possibly vital) data into proprietary file formats, which makes switching to
alternative software very difficult if you have a lot of data.

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Decatur Jones' Cornet: Desktop Linux Will Affect Microsoft Faster Than Expected.
Authored by: lordshipmayhem on Wednesday, January 28 2004 @ 02:09 PM EST
As a Linux newbie, I can assure you: for the typical end-user in an office
setting, the GUIs' look and feel are so similar to what you're used to seeing
in Windows, it wouldn't take long to get comfortable with OpenOffice. Think
KDE or Gnome.

What does a typical office user use, anyway? Around my office it's:
- Excel
- Word
- ERP software interface
- Lotus Notes
- Some (not many) use PowerPoint

All of our Windows software have Linux equivalents available, even the ERP
interface. It isn't much of a stretch to see our 600 or so users converted to

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Still need a product to compete with MS Small Business Server.
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, January 28 2004 @ 02:16 PM EST
PC Magazine Article review for Small Bus. Environment:
Note that MS SBS standard is about $500 for basic number of users. Nothing with
LINUX can compare - either prices wise or feature wise with MS SBS. PC MAgazine
Editor's Choice (even when compared to two LINUX alternatives)!

PC Mag. article:
"Taking Care of Small Business"
Choosing the right OS for your network is critical. We look at four options.,4149,1429948,00.asp

MS Website with MS Small Bus. Server info:
Features at a GLANCE...
$599.00 Price for SBS Standard Edition with 5 CALS:

Sadly, HP's Small Office Laser Printer reviewed in the same issue of the PC
Magazine does not support LINUX.
So - Stay away from the HP LaserJet 1012 !
Article title: "Printers: Small Office, Shoestring Budget",4149,1437076,00.asp

- where only 1 out of 8 low budget Monochrome Laser printers list LINUX as
supported OS.

I can understand the other printer makers having problems supporting LINUX...
but HP, on the other hand as usually been good with their supporting LINUX with
their printers!

And where is Adobe with serious uptodate LINUX version support?
And where is ZoneLab's ZoneAlarm for LINUX?
The list goes on and on!

Maybe with Novell being serious it will provide the incentive for other app
developers to jump to LINUX too?
Unless they, ALL of them, are afraid of Microsoft backlash if they do!


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Switch to stave off TCPA etc
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, January 28 2004 @ 02:28 PM EST
Longhorn will bring us all a little closer to not 'owning' our computer. If
there's less Big Brother in a Linux (opensource) desktop than MS...well duh I
like my privacy amongst other fair use maybe.

Don't even get me started on HP...

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A Cautionary Note
Authored by: davcefai on Wednesday, January 28 2004 @ 02:28 PM EST
I am a pro-Linux activist. I also rank as, shall we say, an experienced computer
user. 30 years since I wrote my first Fortran code (Punch cards on a
mainframe!). Most of my work has been DOS/Windows + proprietary Control System
programming and administration. I have owned at least 1 computer for the past 24
years and pioneered the introduction of PCs into my workplace 23 years ago.

I began using Linux seriously about 10 months ago. BUT it still makes me gibber
occasionally. Like right now, my third attempt to install the Java plug in for
Mozilla. Ooops!, failed again, with an obscure error message. If a user like me
has problems with installing stuff which simply glides in under Windows then
what chance has the average user (who probably does not even know that there are
other OSes besides Windows) have?

I think that Linux on the corporate Desktop can work, for users running a
clearly defined set of programs set up for them by IT staff. Linux at home, or
Linux for "power users" may not be ready for prime time. Once you
get it working it works superbly but, at present, it is one steep learning curve
after another.

This is going to put off a lot of corporates. The initial learning curve(s) may
be perceived as too expensive in resources. The Linux Community is learning that
it needs to simplify installation, not just of a distro but also of drivers,
plugins etc. However there is still quite a way to go.

Reports like this are are reason to cheer. But don't let's delude ourselvs
that we are approaching the final straight.

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OT- but Hilarious
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, January 28 2004 @ 02:37 PM EST

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Open secrets
Authored by: rjamestaylor on Wednesday, January 28 2004 @ 02:41 PM EST
"an Australian telecom service provider to migrate 200,000

One guess which company might possibly fit this "ambiguous"

SCO delenda est! Salt their fields!

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Authored by: freeio on Wednesday, January 28 2004 @ 04:03 PM EST
For some time I have been amused at the TOC comparisons, which are totally
biased due to a one-time conversion cost. The issue seems primarily to be that
certain companies have so totally focused their operations in a
Microsoft-Office-centric way that they have locked themselves into a single
vendor, permanently, forever. They are stuck with Microsoft. So be it. Good
Riddance. Those sorts of corporations have a management problem that mere free
software, even truly excellent free software, cannot overcome.

There is a mindset which says that since we settled on this particular solution,
that it must be the best and perhaps only solution, since we are very smart and
we picked that solution. We have so much invested in that very expensive
decision that to admit that a better path has since appeared is far too
threatening to openly admit. So these folks go on making the same mistake,
because to change is to somehow lose precious face. Once again, good riddance.
We can and should do without them.

I have done contract work for such firms, and I maintain exactly one genuine
Microsoft 2000 system to make sure that I can send them their documents in their
precious Microsoft Word or Microsoft Excel formats, and so I can properly
“experience” their miserable Microsoft Power Point presentations. It is a
business requirement that I do so.

Note that the other twelve systems in this office run free software,
specifically GNU/Linux, and other free software running on that. The desktop PC
systems run SuSE 9.0 Linux, and the desktop Sun Ultra 5 workstations run Aurora
1.0 Linux. The firewall runs IPCop 1.3 linux, and the web server (another Sun
Ultra 5) run Apache on Aurora Linux. For day-to-day operations, Linux is all
there is here, and that old Windows 2000 box only runs when there is contract
work which requires it.

The result is that the software audits are easy: only one system requires
auditing. Only one system needs the expensive software updates. Only one
system does not play perfectly with the others.

My business made the switch – it took from 1999 until 2001 to change, and since
then life has only gotten better. What is the problem with a one-time
conversion when the benefits continue on from then on?


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Decatur Jones' Cornet: Desktop Linux Will Affect Microsoft Faster Than Expected.
Authored by: Stumbles on Wednesday, January 28 2004 @ 04:10 PM EST
You know, I don't really care how many bought and paid for studies Microsoft buys. I don't care how many of the analyst's get it wrong. I don't care how many Microsoft users migrate to Linux or not and if they do that they like it. I don't care who wants to label the developers of open source as amateurs. Of all those things I don't care about that last one is the most important. I know Linux, open source and the GPL are the best things to have happened to the IT industry. If you don't believe it, just goggle, its your friend. There is one thing I always keep in mind when I hear someone say Linux isn't this or doesn't have that, etc. It was someones signature I saw on a mail list; Remember, amateurs built the ark, professionals built the Titanic.

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MyDoom variant starting to spread
Authored by: lpletch on Wednesday, January 28 2004 @ 04:18 PM EST
GCN sez:
"The first variant of the virulent MyDoom worm has been discovered, just 48 hours after the worm first appeared in the wild."

This one may attack Microsoft.


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OT (humor): NBS PR Advisory
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, January 28 2004 @ 04:31 PM EST

At 4:15 pm EST the National Bull Service (NBS) has issued a PR Advisory for all individuals located in or monitoring the "Linux community" until noon tomorrow. The NBS has detected a 42 cents(2.68%) drop in the price of SCOG stock at the close of trading today. In addition, the stock continues to deteriorate as a 3 cents drop in after hours trading has developed. This has created conditions favorable for the development of a media blitz emanating from Utah. The media blitz may be mixed including press releases from SCOG, shill articles released by "journalists", or newly filed lawsuits.

Forecasts indicate this PR activity should begin forming during the overnight hours EST and continue into tomorrow morning. During the day, activity should gradually taper off. All readers in the affected areas should take appropriate steps now, such as taking a grain of salt or putting on boots, to reduce the chance of spin damage.

For the latest and most accurate information regarding any PR activity that may occur, readers are encouraged to visit

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Decatur Jones' Cornet: Desktop Linux Will Affect Microsoft Faster Than Expected.
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, January 28 2004 @ 04:46 PM EST
If you want to increase email security, here's a relatively easy fix for
clients (Microsoft, are you listening?):

1) A default "lock-down" mode: Do not interpret HTML, do not run
scripts, and show all attachments with their complete name. This means
no clickable links and no ability to show or download attachments.
Widely implimented this will also cut down on HTML-ized spam, since it
looks gawd-ugly as plain text.

2) Offer a "safe interpret" mode where HTML is interpreted but links
semi-disabled and scripts are run in a high-security context. Clicking
on a link brings up a confirmation box with the TRUE name of the
machine you are about to visit. Downloaded files would be renamed so
they would not be accidently executed - e.g. "virus.exe" becomes
"virus.exe.quarenteened" and could only be saved in a particular

3) Offer an "unsafe interpret" mode which cannot be activated by
This mode is essentially what we have now in Microsoft Outlook, and is
appropriate for mail you've already opened in one of the "safer"
and know is safe.

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OT: The 10-K is up on Edgar
Authored by: KevinR on Wednesday, January 28 2004 @ 05:32 PM EST
SCO have posted their 10-K

On Edgar

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Decatur Jones' Cornet: Desktop Linux Will Affect Microsoft Faster Than Expected.
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, January 28 2004 @ 05:36 PM EST
The latest MS "Get the Facts" ad shows Linux costing 10 times as
much as Windows Server 2003.

Reading the legends under bar graphs, they compare Linux running on an IBM
mainframe to Windows Server 2003 running on an Intel machine.

The legends are formatted as follows:

One Linux image running on-----One Windows Server 2003 image
two z900 mainframe CPUs.----running on two 900 MHz Intel Xeon CPUs.

Notice use placement of the words "two z900" and "two
on the same line. No doubt to give the impression that they were comparing
identical/similar systems.

They must be getting desperate to try things like this in their ads.


P. S. I have seen the ads in two publications. Look at "Network
World" January 19 2004 page 21.

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Get the FUD - Courtesy of Microsoft
Authored by: leeway00 on Wednesday, January 28 2004 @ 05:45 PM EST

No surprises here - First saw this on /. but here are the links. The PI links can be buried a bit so I dug them out.

PDF of the front page article Studi es on Linux Help Their Patron: Microsoft

The actual full article is here.

I'm sure PJ will dig up some more information on this one & there will be an article on Groklaw at some point


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Another reason to move to Linux
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, January 28 2004 @ 06:02 PM EST
There hasn't been as much talk about this yet, but there is a lot of concern
over the new "trusted computing" initiative that MS and others are
hoping to force upon us.

Most people realize this is just another Microsoft attempt to hurt the
competition. Fortunately, the few people who seem to know about it are wisely
running away from it. Once again, MS is giving us reasons to upgrade to Linux.

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Desktop - my recent experience
Authored by: lnx4me on Wednesday, January 28 2004 @ 06:20 PM EST
I have both W2K and SuSE (9.0 pro) boxes running. Several days ago I ran into a situation that I believe is representative of the 'little' things that will frustrate possible Windows converts.

I saw Mozilla 1.6 was released - downloaded and installed the W2k version w/o a problem - works fine, imported OE Address book, IE bookmarks - no problem. I did the same for Linux (Moz 1.4 comes with SuSE installation, although Konquerer is the default for KDE - I did a custom install and added Moz). Installed and ran Moz 1.6 - the fonts look like crap. After finding nothing at and finally discovering several threads at a newsgroup, although I configured SuSE for ttfonts (and added the MSfonts), to take advantage of this for Moz 1.6 I'd need to compile Moz source and enable ttfonts. Further reading indicated that doing so might break several other things because of shared library version incompatibilities. BTDT and I decided it simply wasn't worth the time and effort to re-learn a process I very seldom use. Solution - reinstall Moz 1.4, and all is well (but not quite the newest thing on the block).

IMHO until we can eliminate these issues it will be difficult to really peneterate the desktop market.

PS - If anyone knows how to do this in a less complicated fashion I'm certainly willing to try :-)

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Decatur Jones' Cornett: Desktop Linux Will Affect Microsoft Faster Than Expected.
Authored by: Stumbles on Wednesday, January 28 2004 @ 06:24 PM EST
authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, January 28 2004 @ 06:20 PM EST Many small businesses use MS access to maintain data lists for mailings, inventory, etc. AND there are completeaccounting/database product built around MS Access. For example: Here is a site that does a whole ACCESS accounting package. THey have been around for years and have lots of customers... Can any LINUX solution 100% REPLACE this ACCESS solution?

The more correct question to ask is, can any Windows solution replace 100% postgresql? No.

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Bravo Dion Cornett!
Authored by: RedBarchetta on Wednesday, January 28 2004 @ 06:26 PM EST
Here is a quick bio on Dion:

"...7 years equity research, First Analysis, General Partner FA Private Equity Fund, 3 years industry IT manager, Submarine Officer; Kellogg MBA, US Naval Academy BSEE."

This is a re-hash on a post weeks back, but Dion has an undergraduate degree in Electrical Engineering, and and MBA. He's a propeller-head, and has business knowledge to boot. How many of these so-called journalists have similar credentials? I'm not proposing that one must have glowing credentials to be knowledgeable about a subject, but if you don't think credentials make some difference, just compare Dion's summary to one by, say, Enderle or Didio.

(incidentally, when I went to search for Decatur Jones on google, guess what came up FIRST? You guessed right, GROKLAW. Decatur Jones came in 4th... bizarre!)

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Somewhat, but not completely, OT - essay in Wired
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, January 28 2004 @ 06:29 PM EST

This article in Wired

suggest s that the desktop is not the only threat to MS (and the USA in general), but it's entire draconian approach to IP is perhaps wearing a little thin worldwide

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OT: Draft EU Ruling Finds M$ Guilty of Mopnopoly Abuse
Authored by: Beam-me-up on Wednesday, January 28 2004 @ 07:22 PM EST N ow this could be interesting!!! I will be very interested to see what remedies will be imposed!! But of course we allready know M$ is a Monopoly that abuses its position

Beam Me Up Scotty, There no Intelligent life in SCO

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Decatur Jones' Cornett: Desktop Linux Will Affect Microsoft Faster Than Expected.
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, January 28 2004 @ 07:48 PM EST
new 10-K filed /scox10-k.html

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Decatur Jones' Cornett: Desktop Linux Will Affect Microsoft Faster Than Expected.
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, January 28 2004 @ 08:13 PM EST
wasn't there a L. Dido at that company? Want to know hear comment on that one.

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Quark may have a higher saturation...
Authored by: badqat on Wednesday, January 28 2004 @ 08:30 PM EST
...but it is HARDLY the only choice one has in layouts to be professionally
printed. Any modern direct to plate printer can use Pagemaker, InDesign or PDF
files. Many of the less-than-modern printers can also use them as well.

There are even print shops that use, gasp, crappy ol' Microsoft Publisher and

And most print shops can also handle plain ol' postscript files too!

If every print shop you know demands Quark, you simply DO NOT know many print

Quark has lost considerable market share due to a couple of reasons: 1) the
Windows version has always been, how shall we say, was Mac OS or
pure hell...2) Quark took years before releasing a native OS X
Adobe the chance to make up for the lackluster pagemaker software with

You're also misrepresenting Quark - One can simply export an ad, brochure,
etc. as TIFF or other high quality format which can then simply be imported into

And print shops...If they MUST have Quark, and can take the time to open a Quark
file, they can certainly open up a new doc and paste your TIFF/PDF/etc. into it
to print.

Quark may have BEEN the STANDARD...but now it's simply another (and IMHO, an
inferior) layout choice!

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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, January 28 2004 @ 09:15 PM EST
My concern is that Novell is buying up all of this software, and I know the GPL
will keep them from making it proprietary, but you have to think... what if...
you know.

What if Microsoft went under (not likely, but what if). That would leave Novell
in the enviable position of being on top, and having all of the cookies in its

I'm not downing them, because I love the fact that they're sticking it to SCO,
but I still have to have that big "what if" in the back of my head
any time I see a software company doing what Novell is doing.

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Decatur Jones' Cornett: Desktop Linux Will Affect Microsoft Faster Than Expected.
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, January 28 2004 @ 09:46 PM EST
I've tried five or six different versions of linux...and I just keep going back
to SUSE. I think it's the easiest to learn on, has the nicest desktop, and it
finds all my hardware, including my little samsung laser printer, mandrake had 1
samsung printer driver, sheee....I just hope Novell doesn't do to SUSE what
they did to wordperfect. I like Novell, they gave decent service to
wordperfect...then it just died away....I really hope they keep KDE as the main
desktop...and it does do everything I need in American measurements...who told
you it was only metric?....

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Decatur Jones' Cornett: Desktop Linux Will Affect Microsoft Faster Than Expected.
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, January 28 2004 @ 10:22 PM EST
Here's an email I like to send to people whose computers send me Microsoft



You've been struck by the latest virus that targets Microsoft based computers.
Your computer at the above email address sent it to me. Thanks, but no thanks.

Fortunately for me, I use the free GNU/Linux operating system, and not Microsoft
products, and so haven't been bothered by this virus except to have received a
bunch of email from people like you whose Microsoft based computers have been
taken over. FYI, one of the main reasons I don't use Microsoft is because of
its gaping security flaws just waiting to be exploited by evil virus writers.
Linux is far more secure, is free to use, has all the software you need, and is
now user friendly.

Feel free to pick your Linux distribution (the Linux operating system combined
with literally thousands of application programs), but I suggest you consider
the following, although there are many more:

If you're stuck using Microsoft software, then I suggest you look into running
them under Linux with Codeweaver's ( CrossOver Office
product. If there are Microsoft based computer games you must use, consider
playing them on Linux with a subscription to Transgaming (

If that can't be done, then please at least consider upgrading your web browser
from that highly flawed and insecure free browser from Microsoft (aka Internet
Explorer) to Mozilla ( You'll be glad to have it. It runs on
Windows as well as MacIntosh and Linux. It makes blocking popup windows and
halting annoying animations a snap, and is also free. Moreover, to my
knowledge, there is no spyware software that works with Mozilla.

If you are unwilling or cannot take any of the above remedial actions, then I
suggest you at least try to secure your Microsoft based computer from attacks by
always installing the latest patch from Microsoft, however onerous and slow that
process may be.

Thank you for your attention to this important matter.


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Decatur Jones' Cornett: Desktop Linux Will Affect Microsoft Faster Than Expected.
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, January 28 2004 @ 11:43 PM EST
Shoot, just send it to people who you know are running Windows. They've
probably been infected anyway ;).

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Decatur Jones' Cornett: Desktop Linux Will Affect Microsoft Faster Than Expected.
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, January 29 2004 @ 02:51 AM EST
"As of October 31, 2003, we had a total of 300 employees."

Didn't it used to be
600? What happened to all the lawyers?

"Of the total employees, 75 were in
product development"

Most game developers have that many developers. How can
you expect to keep up with the technology with this few people working on the
enitre OS? The linux kernel alone has more than double that (~189 individual
maintainers & companies in 2.4.21-0.27mdk MAINTAINERS file).

Well, at least
they made the 101 Dumbest moments in business.,19299,,00.html

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Help with virus protection
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, January 29 2004 @ 03:40 AM EST
While we are on the subject....

Does anyone know how I should/can protect my Linux box from viruses?

I currently run two machines simultaneously - XP & Ximian. I have a Norton
program to keep my windoze box up to date on virus protection, but now that I
have a Linux machine (and I am new to Linux) I am curious if I need a similar
program to protect that computer. This whole virus thing got me thinking about
it......any advice?


Mike A.

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