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Thursday, January 15 2004 @ 06:04 PM EST
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LinuxWorld has an interesting interview with Linus, in which he says that 2004 is the year for Linux to crack the desktop market. He also has some words on SCO and the GPL (he likes the GPL), and here's a taste of the interview: "Software is not becoming free but it is becoming a commodity. Once you have a commodity product the things you make money on are the services and hardware that are built around it. For example, with a lot of mobile phones the software is not the value in the product. Shrink-wrap software businesses are the exception, not the rule. . . .
"I’m happy to see Novell release a letter that SCO is violating Novell’s agreements. SCO also had to make available its case to IBM. This reaffirms the fact that this is not about copyrights but a contract agreement with IBM.
"It’s been very irritating at times with SCO’s ludicrous, unsubstantiated claims. Some of the press has picked up the SCO case without a lot of critical analysis but lately SCO press releases have [been subjected to] a lot more scrutiny. Outside the US SCO has not been good at pushing its case. I don’t have a PR department so unless journalists come to me I have no way of [commenting on] SCO.
"Lawsuits are a big part of the business landscape in the US. It’s good that this case has made all the Linux developers aware of code, but it has been bad because it is irritating and I definitely don’t want something like this to happen again.
"All the Linux developers take copyright very seriously. They are developers and want to do coding, not copying. Because of this, I feel that the code quality of Linux is even better than commercial Unix operating systems. I’m not worried about copyrights but the Linux community doesn’t have a lot of lawyers, PR or marketing." Memo to Linus: You can comment on Groklaw any day/every day of the week, if you want to.
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| Authored by: shaun on Thursday, January 15 2004 @ 06:17 PM EST |
It would be so cool to Hvae linus become a member of Groklaw. Can you imagine
the info we could collect on the code to debunk SCO and future litigants.
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, January 15 2004 @ 06:20 PM EST |
| but how many people read Groklaw?
How many people read The New York
Times (including the online edition)?
For that matter, how many
business people or investors read Groklaw? How many read P.R.
Newswire?
Yes, Linus can talk to us. That doesn't equate to the whole
world listening. [ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, January 15 2004 @ 06:43 PM EST |
so what's with linus's gripe about finland, anyone know? (at the end of the
article saying he won't be moving back to finland)[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: Alex on Thursday, January 15 2004 @ 06:43 PM EST |
Maybe PJ can comment on this:
Given the possible legal issues, should Linus be keeping his mouth shut at this
point? Is there any chance that something he says might give SCO some legal/PR
ammunition?
Alex
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| Authored by: whoever57 on Thursday, January 15 2004 @ 06:49 PM EST |
Linus:"I’m not worried about copyrights
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SCO's spin on this statement, quoted by SCO without
context: Linus does not respect copyrights.
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, January 15 2004 @ 07:31 PM EST |
| Linus is an engineer. He likes to code and build stuff. Sure he will comment on
things when asked (and funnily enough when people ask him they listen to his
answers). However in the main he'd far rather be coding something cool than
following the detailed twists and turns of the SCO case.
The people that
actually hang here (legal geeks and such) are applying their skills in this area
precisely so the coders can get on with what they are good at... coding! Its a
team effort people ;-)
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, January 15 2004 @ 09:30 PM EST |
It seems to me it doesn't mention any comparison between System V and/or
Unixware and Linux.
It also doesn't mention doing the comparisons previously, and now producing the
documents.
It also doesn't mention SCO's alleged 3 teams of analysts who are supposed to
have done this in May.
While most of us have focused on, SCO claiming IBM's AIX and Dynix code (the
comparison SCO says they have done in response to the order)... what about the
other comparison?
Doesn't SCO's complaint allege that IBM took trade secrets from Unixware
and/or System V?
Didn't Kevin McBride say on December 5th, that the trade secrets that he
alleges IBM stole are in Unixware (he contrasted this to System V which he said
had no trade secrets)?
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| Authored by: RedBarchetta on Friday, January 16 2004 @ 02:08 AM EST |
Setting the
Record Straight:
The FSF, the GPL and SCO versus IBM
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| Authored by: Captain on Friday, January 16 2004 @ 03:57 AM EST |
| LinuxWorld has an interesting interview with Linus, in which he says that
2004 is the year for Linux to crack the desktop market
This is a bit of
marketing talk. They were claiming the same thing last year. This year they may
have a better chance though, with all the hype and corporate money being thrown
at it. I still think 2005 is a more realistic estimate. [ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, January 16 2004 @ 09:41 AM EST |
| ESR called. He wants his spokesperson position back! [ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: Turing_Machine on Friday, January 16 2004 @ 10:53 AM EST |
As someone who has been involved with the kernel development since 1995, I can
honestly say that I have not seen someone who has a better understanding of
coding than Linus. To compare his skills in coding to those others which we are
currently lauding, he would be a mixture of Henry Ford, Machiavelli, Winston
Churchill and Shakespear. Trust me... He's VERY good at coding. I am humbled
every time I read through his bug fixes.
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mediocre brain, something like the President of the AT&T --Alan Turing[ Reply to This | # ]
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- Stop that, Linus. - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, January 16 2004 @ 11:57 AM EST
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, January 18 2004 @ 01:02 PM EST |
<i>Okay, here's the difficult question. What do you think about this SCO
business right now?</i>
Right now I'm actually fairly calm, because they haven't made any huge
outrageous claims in the past 12 days or so, so they've been quiet for a while.
It hasn't been that bothersome, but every once in a while, when they make some
new claim, it really riles me - I mean they've literally claimed copyright on
files I can prove I wrote personally, and that's very irritating.
But at the same time, the fact that their claims, when you step back, are so
clearly bogus and not worth worrying about, is - that makes me worry a lot less.
They're clearly scraping the barrel and coming up empty handed.
So it's irritating but I can live with it. I'm just hoping it's going to
finally come to a head soon, because it's just dragging on - it's been
dragging on for something like eight months, and it's getting pretty tiresome.
<i>It doesn't seem to be having much negative impact though on the use of
Linux - that must be encouraging?</i>
I don't see any customers anyway, but apparently... customers aren't reacting
very much, especially not much anymore. But it has for example forced me to -
<b>they've subpoenaed me for a lot of emails, and I spent literally a
week writing a tool to index all my emails, so that when they give a better
criteria for me, what they really want, I can actually produce it.</b>
So it's led to some wasted time, but it's been interesting to some degree.
I've never seen a lawsuit up this close and personal before - and I don't want
to see one again - but at the same time, I think the most interesting part has
been learning and realising just how personally you take these things. And just
thinking of how angry I become at some of the claims - it's kind of interesting
looking at how you react, yourself.
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